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Author Topic: Reactive power - Reactive Generator research from GotoLuc - discussion thread  (Read 263489 times)

Offline gotoluc

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Hi poynt,

they started with a mechanical version and got a small effect which they re-produced and fine tuned in a solid state version. It seems hard to believe with all that work and quality measuring equipment they have measurement error.  But you never know :-\

Somehow I don't think this will be shared in public domain.

I wonder if they just created a grid mirror circuit that at a precise time rocks back and forth in that big transformer?

Luc

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Offline MileHigh

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Luc,

I watched the clip.  I am going to read between the lines for you and I am not going to mince words.

The cost for the conference is $400 per person and they state that the attendance is limited to 150 people and they state that there are 72 seats left.  So they are only half-sold and the conference is less than two months away.  I am going to guess that if they sell out they will actually over-sell and sell 175 seats.  So that's 175 x 400 = $70,000 that they want to split up amongst themselves.

Reactive power is nothing more than power that you originally put into a reactive device, i.e.; an inductor or a capacitor, that is spat back at you by the reactive device.  Think of a training center for boxers where there is that thing where you punch a bag and it's on a vertical shaft with a stiff spring.  I just looked it up it's called a "speed bag."  You punch the speed bag and it punches you back.  That's all reactive power is, period.

Think of slowly charging a capacitor through a resistor, and then slowly discharging the same capacitor to ground through the same resistor - energy in then energy out.  Now replace that with a sine wave excitation and you more or less get the same thing - energy in then energy out.  "Reactive power" is not some "other form of power" - it's nothing more than the power you yourself supplied a fraction of a second before, just like the boxing speed bag.  In a sense, reactive power doesn't even exist.  Think of playing with a big spring, do you sense that there is some "new power" coming from the spring?

Anyway, here is the reality as I see it:  Aaron's clip is nothing more than a cynical ploy to sell more tickets so that he can hit his $70K target.  I have to believe that it is a staged clip where there are pitchmen for the fake setup, and the rest of the people are just casual observers who are not aware of what's going on.  I know saying that almost sounds crazy, but look at the model of John Rohner as an example.

All that we saw was a scope waveform and some boxes and a variac and a 100-watt resistor.

You want a clue that it is a fake?  That looks like a legit 100-watt power resistor in the setup.  It's supposed to be mounted vertically so the heat can be drawn away by the hot air flowing up the center of the tube like a chimney.  The bozos have it mounted horizontally.

When I see things like this sometimes I get offended.  That clip is an insult to every legitimate scientist and engineer involved in the electronics industry, and in a more general sense it's an insult to everyone.

Think about this:  If you were to scope the entire signal chain between the input to the load resistor, at some point you would have find a place where the voltage or current or both are much more than they are supposed to be.  Like somehow the average power or energy per cycle increases 20-fold like some magic energy is raining down like manna from heaven.  Do you get me?   Put your scope probes on point A and see 5 watts, then put your scope probes on point B and see 100 watts.  With your scope you should be able to see where the "magic power" enters the circuit.

Don't forget, these are the same people that at a previous conference projected a computer animation of a 10-coiler Bedini motor alternately charging battery banks back and forth while the unused bank was running an inverter and powering a house.  "Use a 10-coiler and you never have to pay for power again" was the message in that animation.  That's total crap and has never ever been proven and they had the audacity to project that at a conference.

MileHigh

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Hi MH,

thanks for posting your impressions of this video demo.

I've never been to any energy conference and not planing on changing my style. Had no idea they wanted so much money for a ticket. I would agree that the price of the ticket alone should be a caution sign since over all the years of books, videos and conferences no one has been able to build a free energy device out of it.

Now the sad news, if they have staged this video just to sell tickets then all of them are thief's and not researchers let alone have any morals.
If it has come to that, then it is truly sad for the research comunity. Time will tell

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Offline shinz62

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Hi everyone,

maybe the research on reactive power is not done yet

Have a look at this video Dog-One has pm me and share your thoughts

Link to video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDjWwoD83Rk

Luc


Sorry shinz62 I removed your post since it's too close to advertizing

Luc
« Last Edit: May 07, 2014, 06:05:55 AM by gotoluc »

Offline mscoffman

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The catch is that the resonate frequency is very sensitive to the load so it is not a piece of cake to self loop because you must re-tune it for each change in the loading.


He is showing the simplest case, a fixed resistive load.

For me personally this would not be a problem at all because I believe in setting the high COP
process to the minmum constant setting that I need for it to run at continously, to minimize any
environmental effects, then put normal power to a battery bank and play it out normally as
needed. It removes the demand equation from OU system design.

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Offline shinz62

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For me personally this would not be a problem at all because I believe in setting the high COP
process to the minmum constant setting that I need for it to run at continously, to minimize any
environmental effects, then put normal power to a battery bank and play it out normally as
needed. It removes the demand equation from OU system design.

:S:MarkSCoffman


Not so fast... the battery bank will not provide a consistent load; as it charges up it will reduce its current draw.

Offline Farmhand

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It appears to me to be maybe an Ainsley type setup.  ::)

I don't know what to say about this except that if it is true then the MIB angle is negated because he still lives, also he keeps talking of the grid but if he can actually return energy to the grid then he does not need the grid, he can use his own AC generator and produce his own AC power and either return energy to it and burn up his generator or tune it to zero consumption, or export power to the grid from his non grid powered device. The fact he doesn't touch on these issues speaks volumes, disconnect the thing from the grid, power it with a conventional fuel powered generator or batteries, produce the OU then loop it.

The thing they always overlook is the cost of the power station facility and maintenance the staff to run it and the fuel to produce the AC they are using in the first place. Claimed free energy or OU devices with inputs from the grid make me sick. It's crazy, why do they need or want the grid if they can produce their own free energy at a C.O.P. of 2000. Is the only loop they know of a "fruit loop" maybe.  :D

They should be able to power the setup with batteries then switch over from the battery supply to a capacitor and a resistor with a value to stop the capacitor from exploding due to the 30 Watts being fed back to the supply.

I call major bunk. If it is true and they don't release a schematic then they are just as bad as the power companies. However I think there is a mistake.

He said Tesla too many times in a cloud of vagueness.

Oh i get it, only the people who go to the conference will get a hint at the secret and some dubious trails to follow, I doubt any hard evidence or schematic will be shown to anybody. Ever. Time will tell. Considering the past performances I'm not counting on any hard evidence.

Would be easy to engineer a demonstration to show what they did. Ask Tinsel.

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Offline shinz62

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Sorry shinz62 I removed your post since it's too close to advertizing

Luc

Oops... sorry about that.

--- I did find this review... about his book.
http://changingpower.net/paul-babcock-uses-magnetic-flyback-for-our-benefit/

It drops some hints about using very short pulses, like a very short duty cycle.

It sounds like that is the fundamental idea. That there is more energy to be had from the collapse of the field.

« Last Edit: May 07, 2014, 06:06:37 AM by gotoluc »

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Odd they didn't make it into a trilogy...



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Offline e2matrix

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Milehigh you are right you sound crazy.   You've gone off the deep end on this one.  It must be difficult keeping up with crushing all the new things that seem to be coming out faster and faster every day.   Firstly if that is a 100 watt resistor rather than a 50 watt resistor like they said in the video and it's getting hot then they must be getting even more power out so that sort of defeats your purpose of trying to call this fake.   It actually looks just like a resistor I've got that is 225 watts.   Whether it's 50, 100 or 225 if it's getting hot on 5 watts input they are onto something good IMO.  I also disagree that it should be mounted vertically.  IMO heat dissipation would be better in the horizontal position.   Heat comes more off the outside of that type resistor than it does the inside.  If it was vertical the heat from one end would be adding to the heat of the middle and the top end would be getting extra hot.  I would have liked to hear your honest evaluation on this but you are sounding like a raving lunatic in your last post. 

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Farmhand,  looping can be tricky but didn't they say in the video they were going to work on that?   It's been awhile since I watched the video but I thought I recalled some mention of that.   

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Offline MileHigh

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E2matrix,

You need to learn how to crunch heat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuOXgTC0SRc

MileHigh

Offline tinman

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  I would have liked to hear your honest evaluation on this but you are sounding like a raving lunatic in your last post.

NO-he sounds like the rest of us, that is sick and tired of Arron the rookie,and his band of cohert's that peddle there rubbish in order to fill there pocket's with the hard earn'd cash of those that know no better. How many time's have we heard-This is it,we have it. And year after year,nothing but more rubbish,book's,video's and expencive conferences-all of wich produce nothing new.

Good on you MH,for saying what so many of us think.

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While conversely conventional electronic dogma has everyone in a perpetual loop of stagnation.

At least from out of the box thinking we have an influx of NEW ideology - a fertile ground for inspiring others to become explorers in the field.


We need something NEW in this world...not simply more of the same old same old.

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Offline MarkE

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While conversely conventional electronic dogma has everyone in a perpetual loop of stagnation.

At least from out of the box thinking we have an influx of NEW ideology - a fertile ground for inspiring others to become explorers in the field.


We need something NEW in this world...not simply more of the same old same old.

Regards...
While it is important to keep an open mind to new evidence, it is a colossal waste of time to chase arbitrary unevidenced claims.

 

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