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Author Topic: Reactive power - Reactive Generator research from GotoLuc - discussion thread  (Read 262128 times)

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Re: Reactive power - Reactive Generator research from GotoLuc - discussion thread
« Reply #120 on: December 20, 2013, 05:16:51 AM »
Hi Stefan and everyone

I made this video as per Stefan request to see in fine details (scope) the power to the generator prime mover when the circuit is connector or disconnected.

Link to video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yudbBBSS58&feature=youtu.be

Luc


Nice work Luc.  :)  Good video and very clear.  Its time for me to start looking at a generator output coupling to my motor.  :)
your 15ohm load sure had ZERO lenz effect that i could see.  Nice test.

Hi to AllCanadian and everyone here by the way... great forums and i'll be sticking around here.

Peace and love and good happiness stuff.
L&L

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Re: Reactive power - Reactive Generator research from GotoLuc - discussion thread
« Reply #121 on: December 20, 2013, 05:41:37 AM »
Nice work Luc.  :)  Good video and very clear.  Its time for me to start looking at a generator output coupling to my motor.  :)
your 15ohm load sure had ZERO lenz effect that i could see.  Nice test.

Hi to AllCanadian and everyone here by the way... great forums and i'll be sticking around here.

Peace and love and good happiness stuff.
L&L

Glad you enjoyed the video Darcy ;)

I'm thinking your large floor sander motor is about on of the best motors for this application, since what I'm starting to conclude is the lower the Resistance of the coils in the Motor and the Alternator the more mechanical output power you can get out. Higher resistance coils will turn reactive power to heat. That cold be good if you want to make a reactive water heater ;D but no good if you want to get max power output.

I'm quite sure I reached my limit at 30 Watts without effect to prime mover on my 1000 watt alternator head.

So get as large of an Alternator as you can so that once you get it turning you may have some extra power left.

Find an old one that may have engine problems so you can get it for next to nothing. Also, make sure it has 220v as you may find high voltage a benefit.

All the best in your hunt.

L&L

Luc

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Re: Reactive power - Reactive Generator research from GotoLuc - discussion thread
« Reply #122 on: December 20, 2013, 07:29:34 AM »
Hi Luc.  The hunt is over.  lol

This 6250watt electric generator (with 220VAC as well) is actually brand new and has never seen gasoline or ran at all to be honest.  The motor is rigged with a Geet-like feed back from the manifold and a low pressure propane conversion kit to be run on an exclusive diet of pure H2.  I've got 3 - 24volt separator cells that are now blowing the slip connectors off the system with unrestricted flow pressure.  A good problem to have, but in order to run the system i need to upgrade all my fittings to Stainless steel quick connectors and new end plates.  Those fittings are about a $1500 bill (bad problem to have)  So it will be awhile before i can use that motor for what it was intended for.  Might become inconsequential?

I just purchased a welder a few months back so i should be able to tack on a shaft and mount the sander motor on to that frame.  Hopefully those new 5uf caps from ebay will be quick too because i need about 30 more microfarad to bring that voltage at the motor up to 110 VAC. 

I have 2 more good probes for my oscilloscope on the way as well and along with the hall effect current sensor rigs i'll be able to do some normal readings soon too.

Your video got me excited i couldn't sleep again.  lol  I really just want to say that i am very grateful for this line of experimentation Luc.  I've noticed that the first few views on both our last videos had a couple thumbs down immediately after loading them???  curious.

Super stuff! 
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Re: Reactive power - Reactive Generator research from GotoLuc - discussion thread
« Reply #122 on: December 20, 2013, 07:29:34 AM »
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Re: Reactive power - Reactive Generator research from GotoLuc - discussion thread
« Reply #123 on: December 20, 2013, 02:59:23 PM »
Hi Darcy,

glad you're having fun and enjoying the experiments!

As for adding more caps!... this may not be the correct way to boost your motor voltage. There is an ideal cap value and I think in your first video you were not far from it.

To boost your motor voltage just raise your input voltage. Did you not noticed when you raise your variac voltage the input Watts don't change (in the way you would expect)  but look at the motor voltage, it should be going up.
That's why I say a 220v gen head maybe better.

Also, about your motor. You need to measure its RPM, since the Alternator head will need 3600 RPM to produce Voltage and correct frequency. You will want to get chain sprockets (low losses compared to belt sprockets) to double (if not more) the speed of your motor shaft.

All the best

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Luc

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Re: Reactive power - Reactive Generator research from GotoLuc - discussion thread
« Reply #124 on: December 20, 2013, 05:51:52 PM »
Glad you enjoyed the video Darcy ;)

I'm thinking your large floor sander motor is about on of the best motors for this application, since what I'm starting to conclude is the lower the Resistance of the coils in the Motor and the Alternator the more mechanical output power you can get out. Higher resistance coils will turn reactive power to heat. That cold be good if you want to make a reactive water heater ;D but no good if you want to get max power output.

I'm quite sure I reached my limit at 30 Watts without effect to prime mover on my 1000 watt alternator head.

So get as large of an Alternator as you can so that once you get it turning you may have some extra power left.

Find an old one that may have engine problems so you can get it for next to nothing. Also, make sure it has 220v as you may find high voltage a benefit.

All the best in your hunt.

L&L

Luc


Luc,

As always, you provide us with very interesting and well done experiments!

As food for thought, consider the possibility that the internal regulation circuitry of the alternator might dissipate an additional 30 watts when unloaded.

Have you attempted to lightly load the alternator with a resistive load (< 30 watts) to see what effect that has on the prime mover?

Consider performing an experiment with the alternator loaded at 30-50 watts resistive and then attaching your circuit across that load to see if the additional load of your circuit is then reflected by the prime mover.

Good stuff Luc...

PW
 

 

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Re: Reactive power - Reactive Generator research from GotoLuc - discussion thread
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Re: Reactive power - Reactive Generator research from GotoLuc - discussion thread
« Reply #125 on: December 20, 2013, 07:37:27 PM »
Hi PW,

I did that experiment some time back before starting this topic.

A 30 watt load on the alternator causes a 35 watts to the prime mover and so on. It's always more power in for power out.

Luc
« Last Edit: December 21, 2013, 12:54:36 AM by gotoluc »

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Re: Reactive power - Reactive Generator research from GotoLuc - discussion thread
« Reply #126 on: December 20, 2013, 08:01:00 PM »
Hi PW,

I did that experiment some time back before starting this topic.

A 30 watt load on the alternator causes a 35 watts to the prime mover and so on. It's always more power in for power out.

Luc

Luc,

Very interesting... and thorough I might add.

I found your video where you monitored the prime mover with/without your load attached most interesting.  We can hear something change relative to the alternator loading, but not see anything to speak of reflected in the prime mover power. 

It might be interesting to investigate the schematic/circuitry of your alternator and monitor some points within to see what goes on internally as your load is applied. 

PW
« Last Edit: December 21, 2013, 12:56:16 AM by gotoluc »

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Re: Reactive power - Reactive Generator research from GotoLuc - discussion thread
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Re: Reactive power - Reactive Generator research from GotoLuc - discussion thread
« Reply #127 on: December 20, 2013, 08:53:51 PM »
@GoToLuc and all.

I have the utmost respect for those that question then try!

To all the naysayers please let all the failures / advancements evolve in to SUCCESS!

It will be through all of these great experiments that the outcome of cheap cheap energy will be achieved.  (Personal Power on HIGH).

Energy cannot be created or destroyed, but it most certainly can be HARVESTED!

When somebody comes to me and says he knows with absolute certainty where it (The "E" part of the equation) all lies, I will point him to the head of the patent office (Charles Duell)  in 1904 who so famously said "Everything that can be invented HAS BEEN INVENTED!". 

We have millions upon millions of experiments yet to run.  Learn what doesn't work!  What does will come in due time.

My personal opinion is, we are on the threshold of determining just what and how far the term "RESONANCE & FINESSE"  WILL TAKE US!  Finding out just where some of that hidden energy can be HARVESTED!  ZPE, Dark Mater, Magnetism or Reactive.....  who the hell knows for sure how far we will go in the next million years of evolution.  Based upon past results however I feel confident & that's for sure!

Namaste,
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Re: Reactive power - Reactive Generator research from GotoLuc - discussion thread
« Reply #128 on: December 20, 2013, 10:45:03 PM »
Luc,

So far you have not proven your initial claims for this thread, and until you have, it looks like you're leading everyone on a wild-goose-chase...

Regards, Tim
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Re: Reactive power - Reactive Generator research from GotoLuc - discussion thread
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Re: Reactive power - Reactive Generator research from GotoLuc - discussion thread
« Reply #129 on: December 21, 2013, 12:23:21 AM »
@tim123
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So far you have not proven your initial claims for this thread, and until you have, it looks like you're leading everyone on a wild-goose-chase...


I wouldn't call it a wild goose chase, Luc claimed he was getting anomalous measurements and we are trying to determine exactly why... sounds more like science to me. Hence all the concern over how the variables are measured and where.


We may debate our point in different ways but we all have a common goal which is to know the truth.


AC

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Re: Reactive power - Reactive Generator research from GotoLuc - discussion thread
« Reply #130 on: December 21, 2013, 12:47:03 AM »
Thanks Luc,
2 points:
1.Please only use DC coupling for the scopeheads
2.Please zoom into the zero crossing of the waveform only in one half cycle and see,
if the Voltage and Current Waveform will change there, so the phase angle might only change
by a few degrees and this is the way to see it at the zero crossing...

Otherwise I moved the 2 threads into this new board and made Luc the moderator and
we want to make sure that this is no thread how to steal power from the power companies,
but to use oscillating reactive power to convert this to real power with no drag back effect and trying to loop
it this way. So all postings claiming we are only out here to steal power from the power
companies will be deleted. This is a pure research thread into this new phenomen.

Thanks for your attention.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Reactive power - Reactive Generator research from GotoLuc - discussion thread
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Re: Reactive power - Reactive Generator research from GotoLuc - discussion thread
« Reply #131 on: December 21, 2013, 01:28:44 AM »
More on Resonance....  Tesla, Tuning and abundance
http://youtu.be/qpLBBaapbLU
Focus in on all the similarities that are now coming together.
Have you seen the new MRANGUSWANGUS video today?
ARE YOU  T U N I N G  IN?

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Re: Reactive power - Reactive Generator research from GotoLuc - discussion thread
« Reply #132 on: December 21, 2013, 02:08:17 AM »
Thank you Stefan

I have edited some post and deleted content that refer to Grid power.

As researchers we must be responsible for the information we write and share.

This topic title has always been " Reactive Generator research". It is about exploring the possibilities of using a Generator (alternator) output and connecting it to the circuit I have shared.
The circuit (if correctly tuned) will cause a 90 degrees phase shift (ideal conditions)
If the circuit is attached to the output of an alternator, it can output a certain amount of real power to a load and not cause the alternator to require additional power from its prime mover.

This is the only thing this topic is about and the only claim that I have made. So anyone saying I have claimed OU, Free Energy or Creating Energy and so on, I ask you to please show me the post I have done this and I will be more than happy to delete it and apologise for doing so.

I ask all to please stay focused on the topic and don't loose yourself in illusions. Their is no magic here! ... I may of used the word "magic" but I was being facetious. If this effect is what I understand it to be, then there is no magic, special energy to tap into, energy created and so on.
So all of you thinking along these lines will hopefully have a reality check soon as I think we will be able to come to understand it soon.

WARNING
If anyone uses the grid to power the circuit in question, please note that it is your responsibility to know the rules, laws and regulations of your country.
All who want to experiment with this circuit must use their own power source.
Also, the components, voltages and power used in this circuit can kill you if you don't understand what you are doing, make a bad connection or move your hand too close to the circuit.
Myself and this Forum will not be responsible for any damages, accidents or deaths.
I also recommend you don't replicate the circuit unless you are a trained Electronic or Electrical Engineer.

Any posts that are unrelated to the above research can be edited or deleted.

All the best to those who wish to experiment at their own risk

Luc

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Re: Reactive power - Reactive Generator research from GotoLuc - discussion thread
« Reply #134 on: December 21, 2013, 02:25:06 AM »
Three more videos on the subject:

Watt-Meter Resistive Load: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxB9Rcs7Udw
Watt-Meter Reactive Load: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnuusKhZzO4
Luc Reactive MOT Straight to Battery: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LSTBMwC_lc

/Hob


Hi Hob, Well done !
But it seems your MOT transformer also has some flux guidance bridge  iron pieces, that distort the flux pathes, so that you get a nonlinear current waveform. You should look that up and remove them, so you get a linear transformer...

Regards, Stefan.

 

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