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Author Topic: Super simple way to see proof Pseudo Solid principle works using ring magnets  (Read 73408 times)

Offline gammarayburst

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I think you need to build something soon, Butch. Ideas cannot provide energy to the world - only when they are implemented - if they work...


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You offering to fund it?
An idea is better than no idea.
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May have something ground breaking
« Reply #136 on: March 19, 2015, 04:00:30 PM »
I found with my latest design that when you move the magnet in a Pseudo Solid fashion from one end of the work bars to the opposite end that the magnetic field switches from pulling on the bottom assembly and resisting the movement of the work bars apex to the end of the bottom assembly, to helping move the work bars apex to the end of the bottom assembly. I need an animation done so badly so people can see the operation. Is there anyone out there willing do this so people will understand the operation?[/size]Thanks, Butch LaFonteSee attached

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Updated drawing
« Reply #137 on: March 19, 2015, 05:46:42 PM »
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« Reply #137 on: March 19, 2015, 05:46:42 PM »
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Offline gammarayburst

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Additional information
« Reply #138 on: March 19, 2015, 07:49:17 PM »
See attached,[/size]The trick is to move the magnet in a Pseudo Solid Fashion before you move the work bar.Butch

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Stronger version
« Reply #139 on: March 19, 2015, 08:10:21 PM »
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Video Of Pseudo Solid Principle
« Reply #140 on: March 19, 2015, 09:02:08 PM »

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Offline norman6538

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Butch I need a little writeup describing how this works.
I think the magnets move back and forth and the "V" rocks
back and forth and thus power is available. And how do you
account for the work required to slide the magnets up the ramp?

My problem with magnets is that they are stronger when closer and
weaker when farther away. That is a nasty factor to compensate for.
And then you have the disadvantaged leverage to compensate for also.

The only thing that really nails this is measurements.

I do have a permanent magnet device that is OU but then comes
the problem of reseting the device so that it can be repeated and thus
self reciprocating.
For instance lets say you have a lever that will lift 100 ft lbs with 50 ft lbs
but then it takes 60 ft lbs of work to reset it so it can repeat.
You can see that self reciprocation is not possible unless the reset work
is less than 50 ft lbs.


I have drawings of several permanent magnet devices but when you consider
what I said above and get the measurements they fall short - So a drawing is
simple a jump starter idea but the end results are in the measurements.

Norman

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To Norman
« Reply #143 on: March 20, 2015, 03:10:22 PM »
And how do you
account for the work required to slide the magnets up the ramp?
Norman


Norman, If you lay it on it's side then the magnets are 90 degrees to gravity and it's not up hill. It's like a 4000 pound car that's rolls along a level road.
You are not lifting it, your moving it down the road. Also, if you did operate it up right as in the drawing that would be fine because the potential energy you put in the magnets when you pushed them up hill would be returned to the system when they fell down with the bar back to level.
Butch

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Reply to Floor, sequence of operation
« Reply #144 on: March 20, 2015, 03:43:29 PM »
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Floor, the operation in practice would be with it on it's side so bars are not being pushed up hill. There is also a .005" air gap between the bar and the lower assembly. Also a .005" air gap between the magnet poles and the bar surface.
Hope this helps!
Butch

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Re: To Norman
« Reply #146 on: March 20, 2015, 04:24:37 PM »
And how do you
account for the work required to slide the magnets up the ramp?
Norman


Norman, If you lay it on it's side then the magnets are 90 degrees to gravity and it's not up hill. It's like a 4000 pound car that's rolls along a level road.
You are not lifting it, your moving it down the road. Also, if you did operate it up right as in the drawing that would be fine because the potential energy you put in the magnets when you pushed them up hill would be returned to the system when they fell down with the bar back to level.
Butch


Thanks Butch, that is a big help.....
but now where is the attraction to make work? the magnets are between the bars.
kinda shunted....


Norman

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Re: To Norman, # 2
« Reply #147 on: March 20, 2015, 05:40:30 PM »

Thanks Butch, that is a big help.....
but now where is the attraction to make work? the magnets are between the bars.
kinda shunted....


Norman
No, not at all, look at the end view in the drawings. Believe me, I had my finger in the way under the bars and it still hurts. It's a magnetic loop with the up angle bars forming an air gap. When you let that air gap close, watch out! Pure iron would make this a smasher of bones.
Butch

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I do not understand those 5 drawing sequences at all. What makes the change from
step 1 to 2 to 3 to 4 to 5?  Does anyone else understand the step by step sequence?
If so please explain it.

Norman

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Hey guys, imagine this with 4 one inch NIB magnets!
« Reply #149 on: March 20, 2015, 08:14:31 PM »
About with 4 magnets!

 

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