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Title: The Peter Daysh Davey's "Telekinetic Heater"
Post by: NerzhDishual on August 16, 2006, 12:01:57 AM

Hi clever guys!

Could you beleive that you can boil water (very fast) with this kinda stuffs:

(http://jeanyves.hervouet.free.fr/Telek_Heater/Sonette_2_1.jpg)

(http://jeanyves.hervouet.free.fr/Telek_Heater/Sonette_2_2.jpg)

(http://jeanyves.hervouet.free.fr/Telek_Heater/Sonette_3_2.jpg)


You just have to :
check for any short circuit :))
dive it into a container
plug it into the power grid.

I have tried it.
It works....
However my devices seems *not* to be overunity. A bad tunning?
According to my little finger (and the bubbles ) the water is boiling.
According to my thermometer it is not!!!
Actually the water "sounds" like being only "locally" boiling.

Much more in this Polish website :http://evil.0me.com/free_energy.htm (http://evil.0me.com/free_energy.htm)

The original Peter Daysh Davey's "Telekinetic Heater":

(http://jeanyves.hervouet.free.fr/Telek_Heater/14_k08.jpg)

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Title: Re: The Peter Daysh Davey's "Telekinetic Heater"
Post by: Nali2001 on August 16, 2006, 12:40:23 AM
Yeah I read about that thing years ago.
Still planning on making one though. But how I see it these things are quite difficult to get "right".
They talk about the 50hrz self frequency of the main bell I also asked mister Pejak about this all. There seems to be New Zealand patents about this thing, but I cant find them because online patent office don?t publicize patents older than 1970 or so. And this patent is older. Pajak has seen them though and he also has a copy of it. But they are not stored where he lives currently. The main problem is ?making? a main bell that will self start to resonate when hold near a 50hrz source. Now for a steel bell this is an extremely low frequency. Just tap the bell and hear the frequency it gives off. 50 Hz is the hum of an transformer. I bet when you tap your bell it will sound more like a high sound pitch ?pinggg? alike. So in order to lower the frequency of the main bell you have to make it larger or the wall thickness much thinner. I talked to some people who make bells and the sayed that it can be done. They can make a bell that small that will resonate at 50hz but it won?t be easy and in order to do so they would have to used Titanium. So I?m a little confused about the whole device. I doubt that the bell Peter Daysh Davey?s used really has a self resonance of 50hz. But on the other hand they say it IS important for the workings of such a device. So?

The ?cooking? bubbles you got, are you sure that is not just oxygen/hydrogen due to electrolysis? I know you use ac but than still you would get some electrolysis going.

And what do you mean by ?According to my little finger? did you feel the water while powered? I also advice you to be damn careful while using houseline volts and currents in combination with water. Do you know how much amps you are pushing?

Best of luck, keep it safe and keep us informed.
Title: Re: The Peter Daysh Davey's "Telekinetic Heater"
Post by: NerzhDishual on August 16, 2006, 01:27:47 AM

Hi Nali2001

Thank you for your "feedback".

I put the devices in that kettle (1.5) liters.

(http://jeanyves.hervouet.free.fr/Telek_Heater/BouilloireSmall.jpg)


With the kettel plugged It takes about 5 minutes to have the water boiling. The thermometer is ok.
With the kettel unpluged and the device plugged, it takes about half this time (2,5 minutes) to have the water  "apparently" boiling.
The thermometer is completely "lost". (I though it was out of order, the first time). Very stange.

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I bet when you tap your bell it will sound more like a high sound pitch ?pinggg? alike.

Yes it does!!!
I was thinking of being so lucky enough to getting some 50 HZ upper harmonics (100,150, 250 , 500 etc HZ)

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The ?cooking? bubbles you got, are you sure that is not just oxygen/hydrogen due to electrolysis? I know you use ac but than still you would get some electrolysis going.
Yes, I also guess so, as the "bells" are getting kinda "corroded".
I get also tiny bubbles.

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And what do you mean by ?According to my little finger? did you feel the water while powered?
Yes I did (during the the first 2 minutes. I dared not after).

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Do you know how much amps you are pushing?

It is not constant. It could be increasing until about 7 amps (when the water is moving the device). Very strange also.

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Title: Re: The Peter Daysh Davey's "Telekinetic Heater"
Post by: pg46 on August 16, 2006, 03:01:47 PM
Hi-

 I have done a bit of electrolysis with househod AC currents both 110 and 220 volts. You get two electrodes made for example of good quality stainless steel. Place them(the electrodes) in some water, with some distance between them and place a heavy duty lead on each one. Plug them into a wall outlet and watch it go! Wow! do you ever boil water quickly!
 This of course made me wonder why our kettles aren't built this way to begin with. Then I realized the hazards which are of course the good chance of getting electrocuted and then it is producing lots of hydrogen and oxygen from the electrolysis process and so now you have a highly explosive gas to contend with. There may also likely occur the build up of junk on your electrodes over time which would then need cleaning and/or replacing.
 Maybe this is why they use heating elements instead in our kettles.
But it is fun to see the water heat up so quick with the heavy duty electrolysis happening  :o

All The Best,
Title: Re: The Peter Daysh Davey's "Telekinetic Heater"
Post by: Paul-R on February 12, 2018, 06:09:32 PM
I bet when you tap your bell it will sound more like a high sound pitch ?pinggg? alike. So in order to lower the frequency of the main bell you have to make it larger ...
... or, instead, use an octave of 50hz, i.e. 100hz, 200hz 400hz 800hz. (In the States, 60hz and also 120, 240, 480hz etc)

Davey seems to have used 400hz. It is the sound of most bicycle bells, approximately near to the "G sharp", four frets up the top string of a guitar.

UK only - probably - only for a few days. Here are some interesting SS bowls. Buying two sets for £20 will give a lot of scope for experimentation if one presumes that the effect should work for bells of any frequency, if they are tuned together and if we feed in that frequency INSTEAD of the normal mains 50hz (60hz in the States):

https://www.lidl.co.uk/en/Non-Food-O...rticleId=10650

They look pretty hemispherical - i.e. without flat bases.


Title: Re: The Peter Daysh Davey's "Telekinetic Heater"
Post by: TinselKoala on February 12, 2018, 07:35:51 PM
You see that yellow-brownish deposit that comes from electrolysis with stainless steel electrodes? That is hexavalent chromium.

https://www.osha.gov/SLTC/hexavalentchromium/
Title: Re: The Peter Daysh Davey's "Telekinetic Heater"
Post by: Paul-R on February 13, 2018, 04:44:41 PM
:

https://www.lidl.co.uk/en/Non-Food-O...rticleId=10650 (https://www.lidl.co.uk/en/Non-Food-O...rticleId=10650)

They look pretty hemispherical - i.e. without flat bases.
That link doesn't work. Try this:
http://bit.ly/2o30eZq (http://bit.ly/2o30eZq)
Title: Re: The Peter Daysh Davey's "Telekinetic Heater"
Post by: profitis on February 16, 2018, 04:43:48 PM
"see that yellow-brownish deposit that
comes from electrolysis with stainless steel
electrodes? That is hexavalent chromium."  .........   seems to differ in color with ph.i get purple at 14 and yellow at 13 and under.maybe some manganese in ther too?
Title: Re: The Peter Daysh Davey's "Telekinetic Heater"
Post by: stevensrd1 on July 18, 2018, 08:16:03 PM
Look up electroplating of metal, this is why. Any time you have a liquid touching two metals that has a current running through it, electroplating happens, meaning one metal is dissolving into the liquid. Would not be a good idea drinking that kind of water full of metal ions.
Title: Re: The Peter Daysh Davey's "Telekinetic Heater"
Post by: Cherryman on July 18, 2018, 08:35:29 PM
This brings back memories.


Did some experimenting with that a few years back.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5a5pnVsLFcw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5a5pnVsLFcw)


I have a whole serie of some simple experiments with Peter Davey stuff on my channel if you like to see.