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Re: Bashar's Spacecraft Engine
« Reply #45 on: January 14, 2014, 05:39:51 PM »
Some changes I’ve made since the first one
 
I’ve ordered a clear quartz crystal (still waiting for it) as my thinking is the resonance probably will be different from amethyst.
 
The hole in first wire net I made was touching the crystal as was the isolating discs, I have enlarged them so only the wires are touching.
 
Also this is just a simple antenna, its function is just like a TV Arial, but just receives energy from elsewhere and transforms it to EM energy (that’s my guess anyway)
 
So my original assumption that Basher is fake was probably wrong, I just never knew how the devise worked, I was building it blindly.
 
At the moment it doesn’t work but could be down to the amethyst crystal.


The Fibonacci spiral I done in Illustrator at 15 degrees apart.

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« Reply #46 on: January 14, 2014, 05:47:12 PM »
Well I made it and its not working, the wire net is a proper Fibonacci spiral, and the quartz looks real to me and is colder than glass. So I conclude Bashar is fake.

AWESOME WORK!! WOW this is is sick, all the mesh wiring, quartz holes etc.  :o

Even with no result I'm still sure this device is based on a capacitor principle, where the spiral mesh's purpose is to collect electrostatic charge from the surroundings and then deliver it to the hemisphere (via the tips). Like a Van-De-Graaf. Maybe this should only visualize the basic principle (but it could be in fact the base for a Biefeld-Brown antigravity engine).

If you let the device still for some hours and then carefully check the outside hemispheres with some measurement device - did  a potential build up?

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« Reply #47 on: January 14, 2014, 05:52:54 PM »
Never left it hours as the devise should work quickly, checked with metal detector on phone which is very sensitive, picks EM from speakers.

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Re: Bashar's Spacecraft Engine
« Reply #48 on: January 14, 2014, 10:19:57 PM »
Great work WTF you're a master builder.
Bashar's speaches are marvelous if any of you ever heard him. He claims that he's an ET and seems that he is really one.
Looking forward about this device; thanks who brought this up.

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« Reply #49 on: January 14, 2014, 11:38:07 PM »
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...then the gold woven spiral in the middle that touches and penetrates the crystal, to touch in this way at a few points, at least four, the
golden rod penetrating through the crystal sphere...

Reading the above from Bashar's transcript, you've left out a bit of the circuit. I've shown how you could do this in my renderings I posted earlier. Mine showed one hole of five drilled through the equator of the crystal. Get these holes in, connect the circuit as per instructions, and you may just get a result.

My only other observation is that your crystal insulators are quite thick, which will have a number of effects, one being that the whole device will deviate from spherical, which may or may not matter - this is the kind of design sensitivity that needs to be explored for this device. Also, the rims of the hemispheres have quite a large gap - this gap is probably critical, so I suggest finding a way of bringing it closer, such as thinner crystal insulating disks. 1/8" should be fine.

Finally, you could make the copper rod ends sharper and more conical. If you have access to a bench grinder, mount the rod in a battery drill, and supporting the other end with a gloved hand, let it spin in your fingers at a slowish speed. Bring it up at an oblique angle to the side of the grinding wheel, pointing the tip up into the flow of the stone surface. USE SAFETY GLASSES. Make the angle at least half the angle of what you have shown (the cone should be about an inch long). When assembling, you have to make sure these are contacting the hemispheres with the lightest of pressure, as these sharp tips will be soft and delicate. However, if they don't touch, the circuit will remain open and most likely not work. The exception to this is the voltage is high enough to jump any small gap. We don't know, so keep an eye out for this.

Once again, a fine piece of work - I particularly admire the method you have used to weave the spiral mesh. Well Done!


Some changes I’ve made since the first one
 
I’ve ordered a clear quartz crystal (still waiting for it) as my thinking is the resonance probably will be different from amethyst.
 
The hole in first wire net I made was touching the crystal as was the isolating discs, I have enlarged them so only the wires are touching.
 
Also this is just a simple antenna, its function is just like a TV Arial, but just receives energy from elsewhere and transforms it to EM energy (that’s my guess anyway)
 
So my original assumption that Basher is fake was probably wrong, I just never knew how the devise worked, I was building it blindly.
 
At the moment it doesn’t work but could be down to the amethyst crystal.


The Fibonacci spiral I done in Illustrator at 15 degrees apart.

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« Reply #50 on: January 15, 2014, 09:09:01 AM »
First before I do anything I will wait until I have the clear crystal as this could make the difference since this might be out of tune with the energy it needs to receive due to wrong crystal.
 
The dome is 5 inches high not 6 inches so is a proper sphere, the insulating discs are 10 mm thick, but I have no idea if thinner ones would make a difference, also maybe plastic isn’t the best material to use but I couldn’t see any crystal discs so not much choice. But it’s best to try one thing at I time.
 
Regarding the rod cone, how do you know it needs to be an inch long? But it is sharp to touch.
 
There is 48 wires in total so drilling 48 holes around the crystal at exactly the right position could be difficult, but if all fails I will do this last. But thank you for your input it has been helpful.

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« Reply #51 on: January 15, 2014, 09:17:21 AM »

First before I do anything I will wait until I have the clear crystal as this could make the difference since this might be out of tune with the energy it needs to receive due to wrong crystal.
 
The dome is 5 inches high not 6 inches so is a proper sphere, the insulating discs are 10 mm thick, but I have no idea if thinner ones would make a difference, also maybe plastic isn’t the best material to use but I couldn’t see any crystal discs so not much choice. But it’s best to try one thing at I time.
 
Regarding the rod cone, how do you know it needs to be an inch long? But it is sharp to touch.
 
There is 48 wires in total so drilling 48 holes around the crystal at exactly the right position could be difficult, also in your rendering the hole goes all the way to centre which implies the wire would. But if all fails I will do this last. But thank you for your input it has been helpful.



I know Bashar says “that touches and penetrates the crystal” but how deep would the holes go?  He doesn’t say, and he never says to touch the rod with the wires.

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« Reply #52 on: January 15, 2014, 11:49:06 AM »
I’ve been reading this thing again, he also says “Then at the outer boundary of the net, allow each wire to remain as a single wire, do not curve them back upon themselves, allow their ends to be exposed in the centre of what you would call the sandwich.”
 
He says exposed in the centre he doesn’t say inside the crystal, when he says penetrate (remember he’s an alien or extraterrestrial as he puts it) do you think what he means by penetrate is the resonance from the wire penetrates through the crystal?

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« Reply #53 on: January 15, 2014, 09:28:01 PM »
The above quote does not match your question: the quote simply says that each wire on the outside shall remain loose and not be curved back (which you already have).

With "penetrating rod" (in the quote) I'm quite sure he means a rod exactly the way you created... a rod through the quartz sphere.
With "centre"(in the quote) he means the center of the device, the sandwich, not the center with the crystal ball.


 Your question is about the inside. So this is the quote in doubt:
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then the gold woven spiral in the middle that touches and penetrates the crystal, to touch in this way at a few points, at least four, the
golden rod penetrating through the crystal sphere

At first read it almost seems like you need to drill 4 holes through the quartz ball and then connect 4 wires to the center rod. But this doesn't really make sense, as I would expect all wires being connected to the rod. Weird. How can the wire touch the center rod at a few points but only reach the crystal  ???
Though I wouldn't recommend to drill now. Maybe we missed something.


 

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« Reply #54 on: January 17, 2014, 03:35:36 AM »
There is no ambiguity at all in the text - the wires must contact the axis rod, or no circuit, period. In at least four places, which means four or more. The wire mesh elements are all intertwined so should be in electrical contact with each other at every cross-over. This way, even one wire with a current going through will be in electrical contact with the whole mesh.

WTF will have to drill these equatorial holes, at least four, and make the mesh and the axis rod make electrical contact, or the whole exercise will be a waste of his time.


The above quote does not match your question: the quote simply says that each wire on the outside shall remain loose and not be curved back (which you already have).

With "penetrating rod" (in the quote) I'm quite sure he means a rod exactly the way you created... a rod through the quartz sphere.
With "centre"(in the quote) he means the center of the device, the sandwich, not the center with the crystal ball.


 Your question is about the inside. So this is the quote in doubt:
At first read it almost seems like you need to drill 4 holes through the quartz ball and then connect 4 wires to the center rod. But this doesn't really make sense, as I would expect all wires being connected to the rod. Weird. How can the wire touch the center rod at a few points but only reach the crystal  ???
Though I wouldn't recommend to drill now. Maybe we missed something.

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Re: Bashar's Spacecraft Engine
« Reply #55 on: January 17, 2014, 03:49:29 AM »

Regarding the rod cone, how do you know it needs to be an inch long? But it is sharp to touch.
 

Short answer, I don't know for sure, but with high voltage electrostatics, the sharper the point, the more concentrated the electrostatic field becomes, thus raising the local potential at the tip.
It is my presumption that this is why it needs to be sharp. This makes the tip more delicate, so if it can't contact the metal hemisphere, then it should at least be very close, say within no greater than a 1mm.


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« Reply #56 on: January 17, 2014, 05:22:35 AM »
Would seem if you both touch the rod and just connect to the crystal's outer area with a slight indent then you would be shorting out something that the crystal might be acting upon (such as rectifying or shaping a signal).  Are you sure he does not mean that the Rod passing through the crystal should be touching the crystal at four points.  This would make sense,  as to connect the bi lateral areas above and two bi lateral areas below could allow for 4 wires to transfer THROUGH the crystal matrix and would make their own paths to the correct collection hemisphere.  In making their own paths I mean being attracted to the correct dome.  We need to think about what is going on and what we already know of in dealing with circuits similar to this.  He does compare it with man made objects already and we should be considering how those objects are similarly connected. 


Connecting the Rod in this way will, as well, give physical support to the crystal's mounting. 


And if you drill through the crystal you will circumvent the energies filtering.


http://www.nrgnair.com/MPT/zdi_tech/tesla/TACREG-1.htm

This crystal may be a filter that inhibits some effects we see now in spark gaps and enhancing others.  And he does hint at it of course being able to sense things we have not been sensing in other circuits.  This device could be a very sensitive magnetic circuit as well as a collector,  especially if it is used as a part of anti gravity drive.

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« Reply #57 on: January 17, 2014, 09:02:41 AM »
@Hope
 
The rod touches the crystal at the full circumference of itself so touching 4 points of a round is not possible. I think that’s what you mean.
 
@Uniquorn
 
Why do you think these wires should touch the rod when he doesn’t say they should ever be in contact with it?
 
I can understand your reasoning when you say some of the wires go inside the crystal when he refers to “penetrating”, maybe that could help resonate the crystal more as the wire would have more contact with the crystal, but that could mean a 10mm deep hole he doesn’t say, so how do you come to your conclusion? Also when he says touching at 4 points he could mean only 4 of the wires touching the outside of the crystal.[/font]
 
The other thing to remember is the wire I use is 0.56mm so would need to drill 1mm hole in crystal, I don’t know if you have ever drilled a 1mm hole before in anything, but if you have you will know that anything more than very light pressure will snap the bit. Contrary to what people say when drilling quartz, drilling with light pressure doesn’t even scratch the surface, you need moderate pressure, so that kind of pressure could snap the drill bit, drilling with a bigger bit and the sides of the wire wouldn’t be in contact with the crystal.
 
But personally because of what Bashar says here “Then at the outer boundary of the net, allow each wire to remain as a single wire, do not curve them back upon themselves, allow their ends to be exposed in the center of what you would call the sandwich.”
I believe they are just exposed, because when he was answering that question he never said some of the wires go inside the crystal, but you also could be right about the wires going inside the crystal, but you will need to show be how you come to your conclusion about the wires touching the rod as I can’t see that in the text.
 
Also with the wire net being in contact at all the cross points, this is not mentioned either way, so why do you think this must be done that way, what is your reasoning. Of course if you are correct I would need to make the wire net again, but first I would like to know why you think they should be in contact.
 
 
I am open to all suggestions and will try them but I would like to know why you suggest what you suggest.
 
My first clear crystal came but unfortunately it was 54mm even though it was stated that it was 50mm, so ordered 2 more from 2 different sources, hopefully one will be 50mm.
 
I won’t try anything until I have fitted the clear crystal first, start with the easiest thing first.

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« Reply #58 on: January 17, 2014, 09:12:58 AM »

@Hope
 
The rod touches the crystal at the full circumference of itself so touching 4 points of a round is not possible. I think that’s what you mean.
 
@Uniquorn
 
Why do you think these wires should touch the rod when he doesn’t say they should ever be in contact with it?
 
I can understand your reasoning when you say some of the wires go inside the crystal when he refers to “penetrating”, maybe that could help resonate the crystal more as the wire would have more contact with the crystal, but that could mean a 10mm deep hole he doesn’t say, so how do you come to your conclusion? Also when he says touching at 4 points he could mean only 4 of the wires touching the outside of the crystal.
 
The other thing to remember is the wire I use is 0.56mm so would need to drill 1mm hole in crystal, I don’t know if you have ever drilled a 1mm hole before in anything, but if you have you will know that anything more than very light pressure will snap the bit. Contrary to what people say when drilling quartz, drilling with light pressure doesn’t even scratch the surface, you need moderate pressure, so that kind of pressure could snap the drill bit, drilling with a bigger bit and the sides of the wire wouldn’t be in contact with the crystal.
 
But personally because of what Bashar says here “Then at the outer boundary of the net, allow each wire to remain as a single wire, do not curve them back upon themselves, allow their ends to be exposed in the center of what you would call the sandwich.”
I believe they are just exposed, because when he was answering that question he never said some of the wires go inside the crystal, but you also could be right about the wires going inside the crystal, but you will need to show be how you come to your conclusion about the wires touching the rod as I can’t see that in the text.
 
Also with the wire net being in contact at all the cross points, this is not mentioned either way, so why do you think this must be done that way, what is your reasoning. Of course if you are correct I would need to make the wire net again, but first I would like to know why you think they should be in contact.
 
 
I am open to all suggestions and will try them but I would like to know why you suggest what you suggest.
 
My first clear crystal came but unfortunately it was 54mm even though it was stated that it was 50mm, so ordered 2 more from 2 different sources, hopefully one will be 50mm.
 
I won’t try anything until I have fitted the clear crystal first, start with the easiest thing first.

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« Reply #59 on: January 17, 2014, 09:42:20 AM »
I agree with you,  my point was to think a long time about how to organize your efforts to where you can do the least amount of drilling.  I did not think any wire was to go to the rod, only to the outer crystal.  What do you think is meant by "as one wire"?


And only a very high speed drill could do much boring at a low surface pressure.   I worked with a tool manufacture and very much agree with your statements on snapping the small drill bit.


So what do you also think about the 4 points of contact meant?  The wording seems vague to me. 
I would research the best way to do any work on that crystal before attempting changes to it if any.  And any materials you do remove please keep in case you need to create a crystal based adhesive. 


I like the drawings,  I would also create a flow chart from the statements and then use it to make an image to work from.  I have not done this step.  I applaud your fine work on the disks.   

 

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