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Offline WTF

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Re: Bashar's Spacecraft Engine
« Reply #30 on: December 21, 2013, 10:38:52 AM »
As you know everything has its own vibrational resonance frequency, but what you might not know is an object doesn’t exist in a location, location is part of the objects properties, so if you have an object in your hands and then move it someplace else, then mechanically speaking that’s a different object as the equational variables have changed since the vibrational resonance will be different from where the object was before.
 
So a simple experiment, if you take a 4” hollow copper ball and place it on a flat surface and resonate it, then measure the frequency, now place it about 10 feet away on the same flat surface and resonate it and measure it’s frequency again, if your equipment is sensitive enough to measure the difference in frequency, you can now put the ball back to the first position and resonate it with the frequency from position 2. You will need to overwhelm it as to change its resonance frequency to that of the ball from position 2, so to change its properties. Since the location is the properties
of the object if you change the equational variable by overpowering its vibrational resonance then that object must cease to exist and reappear in its new location.
 

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« Reply #31 on: December 21, 2013, 05:25:15 PM »
This is an interesting hypothesis which could explain teleportation. But don't you think this is a bit too much sophisticated for the object on topic? If it were that simple, then teleportation would have been invented already. Also there would be no point in all these quartz spheres, gold wires, gimmicks etc - just teleport a simple object first. I doubt the channeled device is meant for teleportation.

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« Reply #32 on: December 21, 2013, 06:44:12 PM »
I doubt we have the technology to teleport as even if we had equipment sensitive enough to measure the difference in vibrational resonance frequency, I doubt we would be able to amplify that signal to the single resonance needed to change the object properties, because if you think about it, if the signal contained other frequencies due to noise then it wouldn’t work. Maybe one day crystal will replace semiconductors, which might be able to amplify such a signal with the required tolerance.
 
If I was to guess, this flash matrix (I mean the proper one) is used to create the electromagnetic bubble around the ship which allows it to be separated from the reality it’s in allowing it to pop out of that reality to another place, there would be another device to change the resonance frequency of the magnetic field to teleport the ship, electromagnet maybe, all the pilot would have to do is dial the resonance frequency to go to that place.

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« Reply #32 on: December 21, 2013, 06:44:12 PM »
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« Reply #33 on: December 21, 2013, 11:51:31 PM »
Thanks Uniqorn for this.
 
I imagined the gold discs being flat as in the description it says “flat disc of gold”, but I wouldn’t call whats in your picture a flat disc, more of a bowl shape, if it is a bowl and not a disc then it will be very hard to make.

"And then on top of that a shell, a flat disk of gold; and on the bottom a flat disk of gold which you call a hemisphere. Hollow on the top hemisphere, hollow on the bottom disk"

The language is confusing. Either a poor transcript, or some kind of mismatch with the channeler's available technical terminology.
Either way, the flat disk morphs to a hemisphere in the above quote. Further, an additional disk would have no inner terminal, plus defeat the purpose of the quartz disc insulators. It would be technically redundant. Like I said, you've got to read it over many times to lock in the key technical data.

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« Reply #34 on: December 22, 2013, 12:05:14 AM »
...overpowering its vibrational resonance then that object must cease to exist and reappear in its new location.

Whoever is supplying these transcripts has got to be more careful!

Bashar's original description stated that this experiment must take place in an electromagnetically isolated room. The sheet must be conductive, very flat, and level. Once the experiment is set up, the result should be the ball rolling across from position A to position B. NOT teleporting.

I assume it is a very weak effect, otherwise he would not have emphasized the flatness & leveling requirements. This also implies that the ball must be as spherical as is possible to make. A sheet of virgin PCB copper coated board would do the trick.

The lesson here for everyone is to do your research, which is exactly what Bashar encourages. You've got the internet at your finger tips, so no excuses. Otherwise, you get an expensive waste of experimenters time giving incorrect results, which would just add disinformation to the subject.

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« Reply #35 on: December 22, 2013, 10:51:58 AM »
"And then on top of that a shell, a flat disk of gold; and on the bottom a flat disk of gold which you call a hemisphere. Hollow on the top hemisphere, hollow on the bottom disk"

The language is confusing. Either a poor transcript, or some kind of mismatch with the channeler's available technical terminology.
Either way, the flat disk morphs to a hemisphere in the above quote. Further, an additional disk would have no inner terminal, plus defeat the purpose of the quartz disc insulators. It would be technically redundant. Like I said, you've got to read it over many times to lock in the key technical data.




You would still need the insulating discs if you had a copper disc, as copper is conductive, so putting a conductive disc on top of the wire net would short it out as it’s bare wire, also I would imagine the isolating discs would also act as a spacer so the hemisphere are not too close together, as my thinking is if the hemispheres have an electric charge, wouldn’t you get sparks between them which you want to avoid.
I just thought as the discs would be in contact with the edge of the bowl it would become one piece, but I can’t be certain either way, I must admit I don’t want to get something I don’t need though.
 
So in your logic you think this copper disc would have no effect and shouldn’t be there by Bashar’s description?

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« Reply #36 on: December 22, 2013, 11:05:00 AM »
Whoever is supplying these transcripts has got to be more careful!

Bashar's original description stated that this experiment must take place in an electromagnetically isolated room. The sheet must be conductive, very flat, and level. Once the experiment is set up, the result should be the ball rolling across from position A to position B. NOT teleporting.

I assume it is a very weak effect, otherwise he would not have emphasized the flatness & leveling requirements. This also implies that the ball must be as spherical as is possible to make. A sheet of virgin PCB copper coated board would do the trick.

The lesson here for everyone is to do your research, which is exactly what Bashar encourages. You've got the internet at your finger tips, so no excuses. Otherwise, you get an expensive waste of experimenters time giving incorrect results, which would just add disinformation to the subject.






This is the link to Bashar’s teleporting experiment video, he never mentioned an electrically isolated room or said about the flat surface being conductive.
 
In the transcript you read did he go into more detail about this experiment?
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPXtHUe3GCg

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« Reply #37 on: December 22, 2013, 01:35:15 PM »

So in your logic you think this copper disc would have no effect and shouldn’t be there by Bashar’s description?

Although the language is a confusing mixup of disks, shells and hemispheres, the hemisphere win by my interpretation. Also, it makes more sense not having it. There is no mention of how it would connect in the center, plus, it is the spiral wire mesh that is doing the conducting. The crystal insulating disks are to prevent any electrical shorting until the current has reached the edge. Putting in a conductive disk would defeat this intention. The intended flow is through the central axis conductor, around the hemisphere shells, then back through the spiral mesh. Or the other way - I don't know for sure which direction.

In other words, to include copper disks would prevent the device from working.

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« Reply #38 on: December 22, 2013, 01:51:24 PM »

This is the link to Bashar’s teleporting experiment video, he never mentioned an electrically isolated room or said about the flat surface being conductive.
 
In the transcript you read did he go into more detail about this experiment?
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPXtHUe3GCg

Wow, thanks for this link WTF. Yes, I've heard more detailed audio, back in 1992 - I even took notes, and I've just checked what I wrote down, and indeed it says conducting sheet with EM isolated room. No mention of the possibility of teleportation, although the experiment is really exploring the same principle.

The difference makes me a little uneasy, as they seem to be important to the experiment.

I recall that the excitation and measuring could be done sonically and/or electromagnetically. I wondered at the time if a copper plated glass-bubble could be used. It would make the experiment easier if the copper ball was as perfectly symmetrical as possible so there would be less vibrational modes to measure.

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« Reply #39 on: December 22, 2013, 02:33:13 PM »
If you can take measurements with an electromagnet that makes things a lot cheaper, as I was thinking you probably would need a laser Doppler, even then I wasn’t sure if that could measure the frequency difference.


I would have thought copper plating would be too thin to work as plating is only about 0.38 microns thick, and would have thought the whole ball would need to be the same material for the experiment.

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« Reply #40 on: December 23, 2013, 12:17:10 PM »
If you can take measurements with an electromagnet that makes things a lot cheaper, as I was thinking you probably would need a laser Doppler, even then I wasn’t sure if that could measure the frequency difference.

I would have thought copper plating would be too thin to work as plating is only about 0.38 microns thick, and would have thought the whole ball would need to be the same material for the experiment.

Actually,  you can copper plate a lot thicker than that, but why I suggested this idea is because he stated very thin copper was required and I thought maybe precise glass balls might be more available than thin copper balls, which would be quite fragile. As to wether a mix of glass and copper would work, I cant be sure.

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« Reply #41 on: January 07, 2014, 03:53:36 PM »
Well I made it and its not working, the wire net is a proper Fibonacci spiral, and the quartz looks real to me and is colder than glass. So I conclude Bashar is fake.
 
I tried to upload the pictures but this site won’t seem to take them.
« Last Edit: January 14, 2014, 02:55:07 AM by hartiberlin »

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« Reply #42 on: January 14, 2014, 02:56:43 AM »
@WTF

please only post small sized pictures with not more than about 800x600 pixels
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« Reply #43 on: January 14, 2014, 11:31:34 AM »
Wow WTF, I'm officially impressed with your efforts. You don't just talk about, you Get It Done!

However, you haven't finished yet - you've got to check, double check, mess about and experiment before you pack it in an consider it done.

Have you checked the circuit for continuity where it should be and shorts where they shouldn't? Are the wires in the spiral mesh dense enough, and truly Fibonacci? Can you post more pictures showing more detail, and give a report on any tweeking you may have tried?

Once you have done all of the above, then you will have made a more valuable contribution by giving a more definitive answer.

Well I made it and its not working, the wire net is a proper Fibonacci spiral, and the quartz looks real to me and is colder than glass. So I conclude Bashar is fake.
 
I tried to upload the pictures but this site won’t seem to take them.

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« Reply #44 on: January 14, 2014, 12:26:05 PM »
Well I made it and its not working, the wire net is a proper Fibonacci spiral, and the quartz looks real to me and is colder than glass. So I conclude Bashar is fake.
 
I tried to upload the pictures but this site won’t seem to take them.
if they are more than a couple hundred K you can usually edit your message and attach them one at a time... but it doesn't always reload to the message... if it times out, go back and reload and the image will be attached...

 

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