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Author Topic: Bashar's Spacecraft Engine  (Read 89158 times)

Offline teratologist

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Bashar's Spacecraft Engine
« on: November 20, 2013, 10:21:16 PM »
Here is a description of an energy device presumably capable of powering a spacecraft. (It is an excerpt from a session with Bashar who was channeled by Darryl Anka.) Any thoughts about it? You can skip the first section.

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Bashar's Spacecraft Engine
« on: November 20, 2013, 10:21:16 PM »

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Bashar's Spacecraft Engine
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2013, 03:07:16 AM »
My thoughts?

You can skip the second section too.

"In my terms" it's "what I would call" all a load of BS, more claims without evidence, and coming from a "channeler" yet.

And people wonder why our research area gets little respect from "mainstream science". Stuff like this is why.


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Re: Bashar's Spacecraft Engine
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2013, 05:29:14 AM »
Ahh there you go again putting down something you've never even tried.   Sounds simple enough.   Just need an 8 inch diameter rod of gold and a few other basic items.   That shouldn't be any problem .....   as long as you've got about a spare half million dollars for the gold rod.    ;D
Well maybe copper ....   Ummmm  NO ... copper has gotten stupid expensive too.   Oh well


Bashar is funny as heck to watch but I really think he's just a smart and hyper entertainer.   




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Re: Bashar's Spacecraft Engine
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Re: Bashar's Spacecraft Engine
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2013, 05:33:34 AM »
My thoughts?

You can skip the second section too.

"In my terms" it's "what I would call" all a load of BS, more claims without evidence, and coming from a "channeler" yet.

And people wonder why our research area gets little respect from "mainstream science". Stuff like this is why.
Okay, but that brings rise to the question; when do mythologies become evidence of ancients?  Paul Bunyan?  I dunno maybe that's modern folklore... and amusing stories to pass the time.


Channelling isn't a very objectifiable topic; some guy says he reads gold tablets that only he can see and you're supposed to beleive him?


Conical coils have been experimented with... they do make good multi-frequency ; that is they have a very wide ferquency range because every range is represented in an place that it is 1 complete loop....


But in the interview, it says 'make it, spark it, see what happens' Well what that means is you have to poke at it and see; let us know if you find good results?  I wound one.  I used a funnel and wound two conical coils, then just twisted them together... if you use a sturdy wire like 12 or 14 gauge it will hold its form without a lot of effort, rather than tring to use thin wire and building a complex structure to hold it....

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Re: Bashar's Spacecraft Engine
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2013, 07:35:53 AM »
Ahh there you go again putting down something you've never even tried.   Sounds simple enough.   Just need an 8 inch diameter rod of gold and a few other basic items.   That shouldn't be any problem .....   as long as you've got about a spare half million dollars for the gold rod.    ;D
Well maybe copper ....   Ummmm  NO ... copper has gotten stupid expensive too.   Oh well


Bashar is funny as heck to watch but I really think he's just a smart and hyper entertainer.

Nobody is stopping you from trying it, if you can figure it out. In fact, I encourage you to try it for yourself. Please. Be sure to follow the directions exactly, because if you don't, and it doesn't work... well, you didn't follow the exact directions, so no wonder.

I haven't tried jumping off a ten story building, flapping my arms really hard, and singing "I think I can, I think I can" either, even though I heard my toilet talking yesterday, telling me to do it. Why don't you try it for me, it's not nearly as expensive as Bashar's thing, and it is just as likely to work. More likely, since nothing Bashar has said actually works, but my toilet works fine.

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Re: Bashar's Spacecraft Engine
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2013, 08:27:09 PM »
My post was purely sarcasm.   Just poking some fun as I wouldn't expect any sane person to try Bashar's idea based on his channeling.

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Re: Bashar's Spacecraft Engine
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2013, 08:33:22 PM »
My post was purely sarcasm.   Just poking some fun as I wouldn't expect any sane person to try Bashar's idea based on his channeling.

I  know, mine too, just an underline to your post.
 ;)

But which of us is sane, anyway?
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Re: Bashar's Spacecraft Engine
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2013, 01:24:04 PM »
Ahh there you go again putting down something you've never even tried.   Sounds simple enough.   Just need an 8 inch diameter rod of gold and a few other basic items.   That shouldn't be any problem .....   as long as you've got about a spare half million dollars for the gold rod.    ;D
Well maybe copper ....   Ummmm  NO ... copper has gotten stupid expensive too.   Oh well


Bashar is funny as heck to watch but I really think he's just a smart and hyper entertainer.

The transcription has a small error. I listened years back to the audio. I recall the diameter of the rod being an eigth inch, not 8 inches. How do you expect to get an eight inch rod thru a one inch ball? Also, I believe gold plated would probably do the trick, seeing as Bashar states copper will work to a lesser degree.

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Re: Bashar's Spacecraft Engine
« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2013, 07:00:15 PM »


Do you remember the length of the rod and the height of the insulating discs?


Also was the wire coated or just bare?

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Re: Bashar's Spacecraft Engine
« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2013, 08:01:14 PM »
The transcription has a small error. I listened years back to the audio. I recall the diameter of the rod being an eigth inch, not 8 inches. How do you expect to get an eight inch rod thru a one inch ball? Also, I believe gold plated would probably do the trick, seeing as Bashar states copper will work to a lesser degree.

An important correction - thanks! now we only need to guesstimate the length of the rod or thickness of the insulating disks... any constructive ideas?

Re: above comments on channeling - Tesla was a channeler and received downloads of schematics and yet some of his devices actually work ;) a good enough reason to try Bashar's technologies. Another interesting one he mentioned in one of his sessions was an insulating material made of a microwave emitting net covering his spacecraft that allows for travel through material objects...

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Re: Bashar's Spacecraft Engine
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2013, 08:58:03 AM »

Do you remember the length of the rod and the height of the insulating discs?


Also was the wire coated or just bare?

Most of the answers are in the text, it just requires several re-readings to lock it in.

But, to answer your questions, all the wires are bare, the central rod is 6 inches long because the whole assembly is spherical. So a 6 inch diameter flat quartz insulating disk dictates a 6 inch central rod. The points of this rod must be sharp, I assume because this is apparently a high voltage device.

The only detail not wholly clear is whether the gold hemispheres rims should touch the bare spiral wire-mesh wire-tips on the outer rim. I'm assuming not, as it is not stated, but if you ever get this far, then experimenting with the set up will let you find this out for yourself.

This is quite make-able, but drilling the quartz ball with holes (needs diamond drills), and weaving the mesh look the most difficult. You can get gold-plated copper wire online, it's used by jeweler a bit. Not sure if they have it fine enough though.

I'm currently modelling this device in 3d, so will have some pictures for you in the near future.

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Re: Bashar's Spacecraft Engine
« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2013, 09:30:59 AM »
'Tis the near future - here are the images I promised...

There is a rim on the gold hemispheres. You can make all metal parts from copper. As stated in Bashar's transcript, it should work, but works heaps better with gold. So experiment on the cheap side first, and if the results encourage you, spend more on gold plated material. If it actually works, obviously going to gold will be worth it.

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Re: Bashar's Spacecraft Engine
« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2013, 10:02:03 AM »
My thoughts?

You can skip the second section too.

"In my terms" it's "what I would call" all a load of BS, more claims without evidence, and coming from a "channeler" yet.

And people wonder why our research area gets little respect from "mainstream science". Stuff like this is why.

I half agree with you... there is certainly no known reason by our current technology that this should work, therefore to build such a device is an act of faith - a bit of a gamble.
Seeing as it is so relatively easy to build, (the financial risk is small), then this has to be built by amateurs, as they have no reputation to lose.

A negative result is still an important result - it will back up your position.

A positive result would be pretty amazing!

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Re: Bashar's Spacecraft Engine
« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2013, 02:33:11 PM »
Thanks Uniqorn for this.
 
I imagined the gold discs being flat as in the description it says “flat disc of gold”, but I wouldn’t call whats in your picture a flat disc, more of a bowl shape, if it is a bowl and not a disc then it will be very hard to make.

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Re: Bashar's Spacecraft Engine
« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2013, 05:18:00 PM »
Thanks Uniqorn for this.
 
I imagined the gold discs being flat as in the description it says “flat disc of gold”, but I wouldn’t call whats in your picture a flat disc, more of a bowl shape, if it is a bowl and not a disc then it will be very hard to make.

These lines in the description are somewhat confusing: "And then on top of that a shell, a flat disk of gold; and on the bottom a flat disk of gold which you call a hemisphere. Hollow on the top hemisphere, hollow on the bottom disk". However - "shell" and "hemispheres" certainly point in the direction of a globe-type device. This made me think that hemispheres are actually sealed/closed with flat disks made of the same material, e.g. copper.

I wonder if hemispheres are literally hemispheres, i.e. without factoring in what is sandwiched between them?

 

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