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Author Topic: Bashar's Spacecraft Engine  (Read 115949 times)

Hope

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Re: Bashar's Spacecraft Engine
« Reply #90 on: January 22, 2014, 02:33:15 PM »
I also found this animation that could be thought of similar to what Bashar's device could be doing.
The gif is supposed to be an animation.  Is important to see in animation mode   can someone get it form testilca topic and repost correctly??



« Last Edit: January 22, 2014, 06:48:56 PM by Hope »

WTF

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Re: Bashar's Spacecraft Engine
« Reply #91 on: January 22, 2014, 03:13:40 PM »
You can see all the parts I’ve used on pages 3 -4, although right now I’m wiring a fully conductive wire net.

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Re: Bashar's Spacecraft Engine
« Reply #92 on: January 22, 2014, 05:24:18 PM »
As you can see from the picture you will see where the points cross, also the heart of the flash matrix also has a heart in it. :)

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Re: Bashar's Spacecraft Engine
« Reply #93 on: January 23, 2014, 06:00:40 AM »
Time for a review, as I can see WTF's efforts being undermined by pretty much ignoring the detail of Bashar's Transcript.

1. It is fair to conclude, none of us know how the device really works.
(It's a brand new, hearsay, unproven on this earth, and pretty much considered impossible by the science of the day).

2. So, any speculation and/or experimentation has to rest on a firm foundation, and the ONLY reliable foundation available is Bashar's Transcript. This is the Starting Point.

3. Any deviation from this foundation devalues all results gained.

4. This is the now the third time I've said it in this forum: READ the TRANSCRIPT. This means you will be listening to what Bashar said - not me.


Now, when I provide my opinion, it is based firmly on Bashar's word. I quote and clearly show how I come to my conclusions, and expect the same from other commentators. This is not because Bashar's word is un-challengable, but because that's all we have to work with.

Otherwise, you are welcome to invent a new device based on a principal we have little, if any, understanding of.
You are only embarking on this venture because of Bashar's sharing, so why ignore his advice?


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Re: Bashar's Spacecraft Engine
« Reply #94 on: January 23, 2014, 06:22:14 AM »
You both have been very helpful, so thank you.
 
Regarding having different angle of one of the spirals, I know what you mean, when you look at sunflowers, but these are more random not just one of the overlaid spirals that are different, unless I hear this from Bashar I won’t change that ever, as these are 100% proper Fibonacci spirals.
 
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See I’m now coming to your way of thinking Uniqorn (now you can have your sigh of relieve) but the template will remain symmetrical, that will never change without 100% evidence to back up your theory, remember nature isn’t perfect, it’s a representation of perfection. But the other things you have suggested do seem logical so I will try them.

Another way the wire net could be done is do 2 separate single spirals and then put them together, not what you call interwoven, but if there meant to be in contact with each other then would be easier.

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1. I'm not calling it interwoven, Bashar is calling it interwoven.

2. Bashar states to emulate, in the Transcript, "Fibonacci spirals", which is a precise mathematical structure.

3. He also states to emulate nature, such as the sunflower seed spirals, which follow, very precisely, but not perfectly (say 97%?), the Fibonacci spiral.

4. A very special, but well-known feature of Fibonacci spirals is the multiple angle, asymmetrical spirals that all live neatly together. This feature is what many believe lends it its beauty.
 (just do a google image search on "fibonacci spiral" and you can see this clearly for yourself.)

5. Therefore, a perfectly symmetrical spiral is either not a Fibonacci spiral, or it is a special case, which is not seen in nature, which you will discover to be true if you do my suggested google image search.

Instead of challenging me to come up with "100% evidence to back up (my theory)", which is not a theory, just me reporting what Bashar says, then how about you provide me with some better reasoning on why you came to your method, which clearly ignores Bashar's plan?



WTF, I still very much admire your willingness to take on this task. I am finding it difficult to witness you drift off track, so my intention is to guide you back in the direction as laid out by Bashar.
You are welcome to take these deviations from Bashar's plan. Any negative results will simply require you that you go back to transcript, otherwise they will not be conclusive.

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Re: Bashar's Spacecraft Engine
« Reply #95 on: January 23, 2014, 06:27:09 AM »
@WTF

For the diamond drilling, did you keep a continuous flow of cooling water on the drill bit?

This water serves two purposes:
1. Flushes out the bits of crystal that would other wise clog up the drill
2. Keeps it COOL - if it gets too hot, it will melt the solder (or glue?) holding the diamond to the bit, thus it will fall off, rendering the drill useless.

High drill speed, gentle steady pressure on the drill, take your time, pulling it out from time-to-time to clear it.

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Re: Bashar's Spacecraft Engine
« Reply #96 on: January 23, 2014, 06:53:23 AM »
Some general observations:

1. The device is high-voltage accumulator, as described by Bashar.

2. The device is comprised of conductive and insulating elements.

3. Conductivity and insulating properties are well understood - they combine to make up circuits.

4. We should employ, rather than ignore or abandon, our knowledge about circuits in the usual logical ways that work correctly.


In other words, combine our existing knowledge of electrical circuits with Bashar's plan - then play and experiment.

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Re: Bashar's Spacecraft Engine
« Reply #97 on: January 23, 2014, 09:50:46 AM »
I always use water when diamond drilling, and not all diamond drill bits are meant to be high speed every bit is different, depends on manufacture.
 
When I search for Fibonacci spiral they are all perfect like mine, your forgetting nature isn’t perfect, it can’t be as it grows, just like people don’t look perfect, they have imperfections.
 
When Bashar said like simulating a sunflower, that was just an example, he had to compare it with something that everyone understands, like Bashar says the Fibonacci spiral is everywhere in nature, but he is just telling you that it is a significant pattern, nothing more. But I suspect if the spirals were not really a proper Fibonacci spiral it still would work to some extent.
 
If you can do better then make one yourself, after all the more people make them the more chance it has to work. 
 
 

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Re: Bashar's Spacecraft Engine
« Reply #98 on: January 23, 2014, 10:24:01 AM »
I always use water when diamond drilling, and not all diamond drill bits are meant to be high speed every bit is different, depends on manufacture.
 
When I search for Fibonacci spiral they are all perfect like mine, your forgetting nature isn’t perfect, it can’t be as it grows, just like people don’t look perfect, they have imperfections.
 
When Bashar said like simulating a sunflower, that was just an example, he had to compare it with something that everyone understands, like Bashar says the Fibonacci spiral is everywhere in nature, but he is just telling you that it is a significant pattern, nothing more. But I suspect if the spirals were not really a proper Fibonacci spiral it still would work to some extent.
 
If you can do better then make one yourself, after all the more people make them the more chance it has to work.

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"I always use water when diamond drilling, and not all diamond drill bits are meant to be high speed every bit is different, depends on manufacture."
Ok, this means it may have been a faulty drill bit. Anyhow, it tells me you know what you are doing here, after all, you have succeeded in drilling the other holes...

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"When I search for Fibonacci spiral they are all perfect like mine, your forgetting nature isn’t perfect, it can’t be as it grows, just like people don’t look perfect, they have imperfections."

What internet are you using - one from some freaky mathless parallel universe? I challenge you to provide me with a link that shows all Fibonacci spirals to be symmetrical, rather than asymmetrical.

Have you studied the Fibonacci spiral, formulas etc? Sunflowers are near perfect Fibonacci spirals, just as 'perfect' as yours, in that anything that is made or grown will have some imperfections. The devices whole purpose is to utilize a Fibonacci spiral - to ignore this is to ignore the core principal of the device!

I just don't understand why you are so hell bent on implementing half of a plan, why you won't listen to what Bashar instructs, when you have stated twice now that you will only take Bashar's word.

If you deviate from Bashar's instructions, then you won't be able to prove him wrong, or right, because it won't be the same device. Apples and Oranges...

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"If you can do better then make one yourself, after all the more people make them the more chance it has to work."

This is a fair comment - you seem to be getting a bit fed up with my nagging. ;-)  Indeed, those doing it have a better right to call the shots.
Give me some time. By the way, I will use your method of two bowls. Wish me luck! :-)

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Re: Bashar's Spacecraft Engine
« Reply #99 on: January 23, 2014, 10:45:21 AM »
Just type Fibonacci spiral into google and you will see, it can only be made one way with the golden ratio numbers, but anyway good luck and maybe we can compare both of ours.

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Re: Bashar's Spacecraft Engine
« Reply #100 on: January 23, 2014, 11:31:50 AM »
Just type Fibonacci spiral into google and you will see, it can only be made one way with the golden ratio numbers, but anyway good luck and maybe we can compare both of ours.

*sigh*
I did, and all the double spirals are asymmetrical. You are using a different internet. I am now convinced you are from a parallel universe...  ;-D

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Re: Bashar's Spacecraft Engine
« Reply #101 on: January 23, 2014, 11:57:25 AM »
Lol


Is this not a Fibonacci spiral

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Re: Bashar's Spacecraft Engine
« Reply #102 on: January 23, 2014, 12:21:32 PM »
Also this is a picture I found on the internet in this reality (really) the design on the left is symmetrical.

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Re: Bashar's Spacecraft Engine
« Reply #103 on: January 23, 2014, 12:51:25 PM »
I see what you mean now, you, mean the number of spirals should be different like left spiral being 21 and right having 34, I thought you meant the shape of the pattern, since I can only fit a max of 30 one way, this would be very loosely interwoven.

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Re: Bashar's Spacecraft Engine
« Reply #104 on: January 23, 2014, 04:15:12 PM »
This is a 34 – 21 Fibonacci spiral