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Author Topic: Bashar's Spacecraft Engine  (Read 83484 times)

Offline NickZ

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Re: Bashar's Spacecraft Engine
« Reply #180 on: June 13, 2015, 04:38:32 AM »
  quote:
   "Stan Deyo's discussion on antigravity show a device much like this one and how to power it up.
                                                                                                                                            end quote.

   Are you referring to the round table top toy that needs the power of a welding machine to do anything?
   He said that he will not disclose the real deal due to "safety reasons".  Only showing supposed pictures of what the crafts look like.
 
     How many welding machines will it take to levitate a 30 foot craft?  Where will this energy come from in space?
   He mentions Tesla and Moray, as if his device has something to do with what they invented.  Does it?
   Some how Stan's discussion leaves something out. As always...
     

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Re: Bashar's Spacecraft Engine
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Re: Bashar's Spacecraft Engine
« Reply #181 on: June 13, 2015, 04:19:38 PM »
Simple answer is no welding machines needed.   He is showing how the reactive third field is generated from the other two charges.  So building a third field is a matter of waiting for it to gather as a reaction from the coil field and the pulsed DC center "nail" charge spins the first field capturing and compressing these charged waves.  The resultant charge between the coil and center shaft will be change state matter/plasma.  Did you watch the entire section Stan talked about using a fluid medium (cola) to show the standing wave reaction?   I do not think Bashar knows the ins and outs of this engine       I think he only sees its image at best.   That 333K Hz is not needed to "engage" the third reactant field,  it may be a tuning for seeing another dimension as he claims (4th D).  But our purpose is coarse as best at this time and is to attract the third field.   Deyo has another youtube on this anti-gravity discussion and it has more information that gives insights to using this device.   I will find and paste the link.


http://www.americanantigravity.com/files/articles/Stan-Deyo-Antigravity-2005.pdf


This pdf should contain most everything we will need to test WTF device.


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Re: Bashar's Spacecraft Engine
« Reply #182 on: June 13, 2015, 05:27:09 PM »
   Bashar has mentioned that their crafts do not "travel" to get from point A to point B.  They are instantly relocated into the new location, in NO time.
The ships may not contain a normal propulsion system, like as in a plasma-drive engine.
  The 333khz is the frequency that is used by the ship to run, dematerialize, and re-materialize into the new dimension.  As they are multi-dimensional crafts,
and are not just a physical space ship,  "traveling" through physical space.
 
   Bashar can't spill all the beans about this, either, as it would be like giving a monkey a cell phone.  Most likely he is only mentioning some hints, of what we can understand, at this time, and is only allowed to disclose certain limited information.
   Like the information that is already being worked on and developed by the Black Space Programs, on their own back-engineered space crafts.
   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzwOFCSFms4

   quote:
  "Simple answer is no welding machines needed.   He is showing how the reactive third field is generated from the other two charges."

    He is not showing much of anything...  not even the small table top toy being connected and wired to a welding machine, and actually doing something.
 And, the actual input power source in order to obtain that "third frequency" comes from WHERE, on a real craft?
« Last Edit: June 13, 2015, 08:52:45 PM by NickZ »

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Re: Bashar's Spacecraft Engine
« Reply #183 on: June 13, 2015, 11:29:47 PM »
The third "field" is the result of the other two charges.   Bashar is not the owner of this technology,  he does not claim that and could not have a patent even in process on this space engine idea.    You might call the resultant field the standing wave though it's term will be new since it is a new form of mass/energy.  Like bottled null points able to absorb energy and open a new portal.   But of course we could just throw out all thoughts of applying the theory to see if we could get further on other known working at one time devices of the past.  Since we know our government has been totally honest with returning all the papers of Tesla and none were changed....oh wait,  we can trust them right?   This experiment looks like nickles and dimes compared to the Bashar unit.    And no we have no reason to be dissuaded especially by each other.   


Why not use a PMH as the outer coil?  How could Bashar claim anything wrong with that,  then old Ed Leeds would send his copyright lawyer I imagine.    LOL   when are we going to figure out the principles and drop the negative crap that does not get us there.  I call it skipping to the end.   Most people call it the "BUTS"      But it can not be done,  but it will not work,  but it will cost to much,  but there is no known energy of that sort, buts          Some call this butting       getting real,  others know we are on the fringe of our science and bridging to an unknown science is and has been a step of faith.    Without faith nothing is possible.  (except the accidents) So all the negative can'ts just slow the process.  That is why some major discoveries are accidentally discovered and other advances come from some one tinkering around at home.   They are just to naive to know it could not be done.   If your hanging on to the buts you might as well grab a IEEE license and engineer like the rest do. 



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Re: Bashar's Spacecraft Engine
« Reply #184 on: June 16, 2015, 11:55:33 PM »
OK so this thing goes flying of into space hahahahah OK HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH Its been channelled and the real inventor is ???????? bervbn; v rev;ern erjhnbjtnbjntb hahahahahah I have to laugh because of the polite begging pitch salesman approach hahahahah The very first thing is give us money hahahahahhah and to honest its directed at empty minds that cant think...... I wonder why ?????????

But sometime mad ideas lead to good ones ! I also have a magic rod and have a cool way to sweet silver gold platinum from copper piping in an electric oven ... That is to say the so called impurities before the copper becomes pure ................................................

The other thing is harmonics resonance as all metals come from super nova they hold a natural EMF frequency ! And without digging to this nut jobs theory there is some logic to it ... But its a dead end for them if they think we are all going to buy into it........................

So if this thing is real or let us say it may open a new approach to a very long list of research that never got anywhere than these harmonic band of frequencies some how do all the work ahahahah Ok lets all play electric guitars inside a golden vase with a stupid stick in the centre of it and see what happens hahahahahahahhahaahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahaha

But I do have a magic rod it isolates the curvature of space at 2.2 degrees imperial and imperial measurements are all harmonics if you want them to be............. So you point the stick at a star and ???????????? a wave function sets up a super string and the gravity of the star pulls you in that direction wow hahaahhahahhahahhahahahahh ok so who is going to try it first ?????? hahahahhaahahahhaahhah Not me I am to grounded hahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahha But If you buy my CD TV BLOW UP DOLE you would be doing me a big favour and than I can buy a the atk zxt1 super model hahahaha andwe can send the cdtv into space hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

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Re: Bashar's Spacecraft Engine
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Re: Bashar's Spacecraft Engine
« Reply #185 on: June 19, 2015, 02:36:40 PM »
Well I guess I will be working alone on this project,  at least I am in good company.

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Re: Bashar's Spacecraft Engine
« Reply #186 on: June 19, 2015, 03:56:50 PM »
   Hope:
   Just what is it that you want to work on?  As there is not enough information, schematics, video build, or anything, to do something useful with the little information that Bashar has given.
                       Or is there?
   
   I am not looking to build a space ship, but an energy device that is self sustaining, instead. That can also produce a useable output. It does not have to fly anywhere.

   I feel that there can be a possible relation between the information for Bashar's type of engine design, and a self sustaining free energy device. As the extra input that provides for an engine to work may be similar in some ways to what it may take to make a self running generator produce it's own energy source.  As both need to extract any extra energy from the surrounding ambient.

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Re: Bashar's Spacecraft Engine
« Reply #187 on: June 19, 2015, 05:32:37 PM »
Using a method to spin (smoke ring like) an energy field to make it focused and minimize losses.  Energy passing through the center of this emf smoke ring may find the center of the smoke ring superconductive and eddy's will not travel away but be focused to spin and provide a shell that contains the losses to a high efficiency.  I have been looking at Tesla's stuff and to me he was the master of using lines of force by using some method to create a friction-less (so to speak) method of energy movement.


He could also do this with standing waves.   

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Re: Bashar's Spacecraft Engine
« Reply #188 on: June 19, 2015, 05:49:09 PM »
It would stand to reason that any thing moving in a less restricted manor could travel faster.  Combining harmonics waves and standing wave back feed will give lines of force of any wavelength a path of lesser restriction.  There maybe a correlation between the gained speed and the energy mass.   Faster travel = more end force or kinetic energy for the same charge.   The harvest-able energy (sometimes called OU)  just maybe due to this gain.

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« Reply #189 on: June 19, 2015, 07:27:36 PM »
  Bashar mentions, that the ship engine has a center core from top to bottom of the craft.  And that around that center core spins a toroidal shaped energy field, with amplifier systems attached to this central core, to augment the original field to a higher output level. The top and bottom of the craft are dome shapes, joined in the middle.
  That is the relative shape, and idea, to help visualize what is further needed. 
  So, a Bashar type of space craft (or generator device), should be build incorporating those physical properties, and ideas, to begin with.

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« Reply #190 on: June 20, 2015, 12:40:06 AM »
The term unified field oscillator may help !

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Re: Bashar's Spacecraft Engine
« Reply #191 on: June 21, 2015, 06:51:17 PM »
  Sometimes I wonder if anything that we've been watching by NASA is real.  Any one it?
And why they keep the lies and coverup going. 
  So, WHAT then is really going on behind our backs.
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5d7tXEVW9o

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« Reply #192 on: June 23, 2015, 08:16:49 PM »
Work or don't work on any project,  but before I attempt any thing I have a basic belief in the principles involved.   So to me understanding promotes the energy to attempt a physical prototype.


The incomplete description Bashar delivers is only a picture of the device described from his understanding and interpretation.   His claims of a patent is only his claims  (like so many we have all heard here that prove to be unfounded).    Stan Deyo starts with claims of working in the 50's with the government.   I checked out his birthdate and my opinion is that he would have been at most 13 in 1959.    So Deyo does not impress me on his truthfulness.   But seeing Bruce's TPU and other devices using principles we do not fully understand does shows me that there is a working principle.   AND leads me to see that moving energy more efficient than straight wire will result in "mystery gains".   


We have wondered in the dark trying to see without a light.  All I wish to convey is the idea of "Lets work on understanding how could this energy come from a set of physical laws yet gain excess and unexplained energy".   


The energy is more efficient,  stays more focused would provide an answer without hocus pocus.   So even if you want mystery without a working principle how are you going to stumble on it?   Lets work on making energy move (be attracted toward) as close to unrestricted as possible.   Watching Stan Deyos anti gravity youtube has merit to me, but only because it shows a way and has proof it is a working concept.


Why not make energy a less restricted path using a spinning field to break the cohesive bond of molecules in front of the energy in movement so it does not have that barrier to overcome.    Can't make our IEEE buddies eat crow over that since it follows known physics.  I for one wish to skip to the end and leave all that drama behind.   Free and to all, open sourced.   The higher the rate of travel can be the more end force can be realized.    Nickz    thank you for your positive comments and true efforts to find something that works.    Funny word play,  chasing smoke rings but if it gets us there as a model to emulate so be it.

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Re: Bashar's Spacecraft Engine
« Reply #193 on: June 25, 2015, 01:31:44 AM »
  Here is a video that you might be interested in watching:
  Bob Lazar: 
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iezJY74GsX8

 

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