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Offline totoalas

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Re: Reactive Generator Research for everyone to share
« Reply #60 on: November 18, 2013, 11:08:17 AM »
 :) Luc
Belated Happy Bday mate
It may not be related to ur circuit but KVAR works for me
putting two ac caps in parallel with my air conditioner has saved me lower my bill  .....
Also once the caps are just plugged into a normal socket   it slows the mechanical utility meter   on a 240 v 60 hz   ac mains
My suggestion is to combine with r circuit input and output having caps
 
thanks
 

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Offline Dog-One

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Re: Reactive Generator Research for everyone to share
« Reply #61 on: November 18, 2013, 02:32:37 PM »
This is great stuff Luc.

Something hit me during experimenting which may be a better way to progress with this testing:

Instead of mechanically connecting the test motor to the generator.  How about this:  Get some other drive motor pulley system that can turn the generator at the exact RPM and give us the exact frequency output we desire.  Leave the test motor unconnected mechanically.  We only connect the generator to the test motor electrically.  Now we can focus on the exact components in a stable test environment that will reduce the test motor power draw on the generator to zero, fully reactive, 90 degrees out of phase.  If we get this part right, the generator RPM should remain stable regardless of whether we switch on the test motor or not.  We can also observe what happens when the test motor is subjected to frictional loading; if tuned right, there still should be no load on the generator.

Get that much done, then we can slip a belt on or what have you to connect the test motor mechanically to the generator.  Probably still good to retain a means of using the drive motor to bring the system up to speed.

Anyway, my point is that having this second motor should make it much easier to tune and to attempt self looping.

HTH,

D1

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Re: Reactive Generator Research for everyone to share
« Reply #62 on: November 18, 2013, 02:46:06 PM »
Luc,

Yes we have a 240VAC 50Hz mains grid. But we have two live wires and local ground.
We do not have distributed ground. Also I live in a rented apartment and the apartment is
connected to the house grid. On the input of THIS house grid there are are lightning
protection circuit AND a ground breaker circuit AND a power factor circuit. If I by accident
short circuit one of the live wires to ground, with as little as a few mA, then I will trip
the ground protection  breaker, and my landlord will be very pissed, sitting in the dark. So basically,
I'm not allowed to play with the mains AT all. That is the reason. The other reason is,  I want to
find out if it is possible to make a solid state version of your reactive power coil system. I do
not have to do your test because I have studied your video and I understand what effect
to look for in a LC circuit to get that LC circuit into a condition where the voltage and current
is 90 degrees out of phase. Hope you understand.

GL.

Okay GL, I understand and wish you success with your experiments.

Luc

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« Reply #62 on: November 18, 2013, 02:46:06 PM »
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Offline ingyenenergiagep

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Re: Reactive Generator Research for everyone to share
« Reply #63 on: November 18, 2013, 08:10:16 PM »
Chernetsky circuit.

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Re: Reactive Generator Research for everyone to share
« Reply #64 on: November 20, 2013, 02:34:37 PM »
 This morning I checked comments at Luc's video:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Guc8TADLteM
(which you may wish to download if you're interested in this topic).

Note what he said yesterday about not posting anymore (at least for a while)  :'( -- and why --


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Offline JouleSeeker

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Re: Reactive Generator Research for everyone to share
« Reply #65 on: November 20, 2013, 02:48:43 PM »
For the record:

Hi everyone,

today is my 52nd birthday and I've decided to share the most promising research I have found to date.

For quite some time I've been studying the effects of reactive power using all kinds of circuit configurations.
The circuit that seems to have the most promising results is a Transformer and capacitor combination.
At this time I'm using a Microwave Oven Transformer (aka MOT)
I'm sure there are even better suited transformers but of all the transformers I had on hand at this time a MOT is giving me the best results and I will share more on the details in the next post.

Don't assume this is common information, since it's not!... I have search the internet and youtube and no one has shared the results that I'm about to give. Also, I've been sharing my results with Gyula (in case I miss something) he is a well respected researcher.
He also could not find anything on the net of what I'm about to share. Gyula was also quite surprised of the results of the test as he thought the opposite would happen.
I'm sure this isn't a new discovery!... and most likely is the operating principle of many OU devices you have seen in videos or been hearing about.
However, those who have found this effect are not sharing and are probably of the same mindset as 99% of the world's population and think to make profit first rather than helping those how have much less than them
let alone thinking of helping our environment.

I have always promised myself to share all so here it is.
I only ask one thing from you and it's not difficult to do. If after viewing my video demonstration you see no value to what I share then please move on and don't bother wasting another minute of your time.
If you don't understand what is being shared! that's not a problem but I ask you stay in the background and keep looking at the updates and look at the posts of those who do understand and are willing to participate in developing this to its full potential.
In time it may come clear to you and possibly a list of the exact parts and where to buy them once a device is perfected.
If you can't build anything that's also not a problem as someone may offer a built device for you to buy. There's room for everyone but please lets keep this topic clean.

Also, please note,  I make no claims of OU... all I suggest is by using certain values of electrical components (which usually cause losses) adjusting and connecting them in a certain way, one could remove the Lenz effect on a load connected to a generator. Also, by using such a circuit on the input (prime mover) one could also reduce the input power by 50% (as demonstrated in my video) or up to 100% if you can develop a circuit that would make a better phase shift then my circuit used in test 1 video demo.
If this does not attract you please move on and don't waste your time watching this 30 minute video.
As far as I know this is the first ever video demonstration with an explanation of the benefits of a reactive power load on a generator.
Also, I'm not hiding anything in a box!  all is in the open and details given.

Link to video demo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Guc8TADLteM

In the next post I'll include some more details on the effect of using a MOT and capacitors and include some scope shots of test 1 video.

Luc

Thanks, Luc, for sharing what you did! 

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Re: Reactive Generator Research for everyone to share
« Reply #66 on: November 20, 2013, 03:53:49 PM »
Well i hope he finishes that house boat,as that was a realy interesting project to watch.

Wish you well Luc in your journey.

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Offline totoalas

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Re: Reactive Generator Research for everyone to share
« Reply #67 on: November 20, 2013, 06:48:48 PM »
Luc
thanks for opening the door ......   we can start from here .....  Romerouk has tested positively    .....
now back to work.....
 :)

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Re: Reactive Generator Research for everyone to share
« Reply #68 on: November 21, 2013, 08:30:19 AM »
Hi Luc,

I just saw Your new setup and I think its really cool!
Especially since I just got my hand on a MOT myself and have started scrambling for caps. Its in the air I think  ;)

Anyway, I just want to mention an interesting touch on this: imagine the voltage loss on a diode, no resistance but still voltage loss. To minimize the loss You work with higher voltage, right? The same goes with batteries when they charge, they are just like a diode with a voltage drop but no resistance! So creating any kind of HV LC-tank in resonance and a FWBR in series charging a battery seems to work great! Maybe the term would be reactive current?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3TsSD2l2ds

Next step for me personally is to duplicate/mimic Benitez patent nr 121561, please check it out http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Patents/Benitez/GB121561A.pdf, its quite simple once You understand to skip the controller part at the top of the picture. It all boils down to the spark-gap creating HV HF which when in resonance and in series with a FWBR will charge a battery VERY efficiently. I think the spark-gap creating the HV HF resonance *ringing* may be where much of the magnification in Tesla's (and others) work resides. Please read the patent, I've never read a more explicit patent before. http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Patents/Benitez/GB121561A.pdf

In this video I do a test with a sparc-gap and light-bulb (instead of a FWBR and a battery):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-HGbAr398Y

/Hob

PS: BTW, the RotoVerter uses resonance as well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TM4zlLS_94A
so resonance is a path well worth walking  :)

another PS: And Tesla was all about resonance too:
http://www.google.com/patents/US568178  :D

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Re: Reactive Generator Research for everyone to share
« Reply #69 on: November 21, 2013, 10:37:31 AM »
Hi Luc,

I just saw Your new setup and I think its really cool!
Especially since I just got my hand on a MOT myself and have started scrambling for caps. Its in the air I think  ;)

Anyway, I just want to mention an interesting touch on this: imagine the voltage loss on a diode, no resistance but still voltage loss. To minimize the loss You work with higher voltage, right? The same goes with batteries when they charge, they are just like a diode with a voltage drop but no resistance! So creating any kind of HV LC-tank in resonance and a FWBR in series charging a battery seems to work great! Maybe the term would be reactive current?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3TsSD2l2ds

Next step for me personally is to duplicate/mimic Benitez patent nr 121561, please check it out http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Patents/Benitez/GB121561A.pdf, its quite simple once You understand to skip the controller part at the top of the picture. It all boils down to the spark-gap creating HV HF which when in resonance and in series with a FWBR will charge a battery VERY efficiently. I think the spark-gap creating the HV HF resonance *ringing* may be where much of the magnification in Tesla's (and others) work resides. Please read the patent, I've never read a more explicit patent before. http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Patents/Benitez/GB121561A.pdf

In this video I do a test with a sparc-gap and light-bulb (instead of a FWBR and a battery):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-HGbAr398Y

/Hob

PS: BTW, the RotoVerter uses resonance as well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TM4zlLS_94A
so resonance is a path well worth walking  :)

another PS: And Tesla was all about resonance too:


Hi
Thanks for sharing
Hv and pulse  combined in a magnet locked stator  coil  retained a charge  that eliminated the use of rotor     and lit 40 w of lighting   with water tap connection
This set up  also kept ringing even without power supply     
But most fascinating is from luc   that can make  multiple output

Cheers
Toto  alas
http://www.google.com/patents/US568178  :D

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Re: Reactive Generator Research for everyone to share
« Reply #70 on: November 27, 2013, 11:35:31 AM »

interesting:
Conclusion
In retarded resonance, the energy extracted from the source is determined by the retarded
phase on the route. When the distance between the source and the receiver is ¼ of
wavelength, the extracted energy from the source is negative.
http://vixra.org/pdf/1104.0052v1.pdf



Conclusion
The current through a single wire phase retarded circuit is phase inverted. When such a
retardation circuit is combined with a power source, it can supply current to the load
resistor. The current supplied from the source is reduced so that the consumed power in
the load resistor is much larger than the supplied power from the source.
http://vixra.org/pdf/1110.0004v1.pdf


http://jnaudin.free.fr/images/lmdpio.gif
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/lmdtem.htm

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Offline Farmhand

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Re: Reactive Generator Research for everyone to share
« Reply #72 on: November 27, 2013, 10:12:10 PM »
interesting:
Conclusion
In retarded resonance, the energy extracted from the source is determined by the retarded
phase on the route. When the distance between the source and the receiver is ¼ of
wavelength, the extracted energy from the source is negative.
http://vixra.org/pdf/1104.0052v1.pdf



Conclusion
The current through a single wire phase retarded circuit is phase inverted. When such a
retardation circuit is combined with a power source, it can supply current to the load
resistor. The current supplied from the source is reduced so that the consumed power in
the load resistor is much larger than the supplied power from the source.
http://vixra.org/pdf/1110.0004v1.pdf


http://jnaudin.free.fr/images/lmdpio.gif
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/lmdtem.htm

Negative energy equals negative work. Is there such a thing as negative work ? How is that described ? What does it mean ?

The extracted energy is negative. What a curious statement. So energy is taken out from the supply but it is negative ????

Conclusion equals one mans final opinion. Not fact.

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Re: Reactive Generator Research for everyone to share
« Reply #73 on: November 28, 2013, 09:12:50 AM »
Negative energy equals negative work. Is there such a thing as negative work ? How is that described ? What does it mean ?

The extracted energy is negative. What a curious statement. So energy is taken out from the supply but it is negative ????

Conclusion equals one mans final opinion. Not fact.

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in the text :
The positive value of P1(t) represents energy flow
out of the source. The negative value denotes energy flow inward the source.

Offline tim123

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Re: Reactive Generator Research for everyone to share
« Reply #74 on: November 28, 2013, 10:21:19 AM »
"A Novel Transformer with Compensating Coil"
 Xiaodong Liu 1*, Qichang Liang 2, Yu Liang 3
http://vixra.org/pdf/1204.0084v1.pdf

This is one by the same authors - it's a 'bucking coil' transformer - they say it'll power itself. It looks really simple, and totally illogical... The phrase 'retarded phase' seems to have been coined by the authors. I wonder if it's 'red herring' science for retarded people (like me)..?

The circuits in the other papers look simple to replicate, and one (1110.0004v1.pdf) looks a lot like what Luc is doing, but I'm concerned by the one I found above - it doesn't look right at all...

I'm also skeptical that simply moving a receiving antenna 1/4 wavelength from the source would result in OU (1104.0052v1.pdf). But again - it's an easy experiment...

JLN's LMD experiment is interesting, but if it's so obviously OU as claimed - why hasn't it been developed?

This whole reactive power discussion reminds me of rotoverters...

 

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