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Offline gotoluc

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Reactive Generator Research for everyone to share
« on: November 15, 2013, 10:51:05 PM »
Hi everyone,

today is my 52nd birthday and I've decided to share the most promising research I have found to date.

For quite some time I've been studying the effects of reactive power using all kinds of circuit configurations.
The circuit that seems to have the most promising results is a Transformer and capacitor combination.
At this time I'm using a Microwave Oven Transformer (aka MOT)
I'm sure there are even better suited transformers but of all the transformers I had on hand at this time a MOT is giving me the best results and I will share more on the details in the next post.

Don't assume this is common information, since it's not!... I have search the internet and youtube and no one has shared the results that I'm about to give. Also, I've been sharing my results with Gyula (in case I miss something) he is a well respected researcher.
He also could not find anything on the net of what I'm about to share. Gyula was also quite surprised of the results of the test as he thought the opposite would happen.
I'm sure this isn't a new discovery!... and most likely is the operating principle of many OU devices you have seen in videos or been hearing about.
However, those who have found this effect are not sharing and are probably of the same mindset as 99% of the world's population and think to make profit first rather than helping those how have much less than them let alone thinking of helping our environment.

I have always promised myself to share all so here it is.
I only ask one thing from you and it's not difficult to do. If after viewing my video demonstration you see no value to what I share then please move on and don't bother wasting another minute of your time.
If you don't understand what is being shared! that's not a problem but I ask you stay in the background and keep looking at the updates and look at the posts of those who do understand and are willing to participate in developing this to its full potential.
In time it may come clear to you and possibly a list of the exact parts and where to buy them once a device is perfected.
If you can't build anything that's also not a problem as someone may offer a built device for you to buy. There's room for everyone but please lets keep this topic clean.

Also, please note,  I make no claims of OU... all I suggest is by using certain values of electrical components (which usually cause losses) adjusting and connecting them in a certain way, one could remove the Lenz effect on a load connected to a generator. Also, by using such a circuit on the input (prime mover) one could also reduce the input power by 50% (as demonstrated in my video) or up to 100% if you can develop a circuit that would make a better phase shift then my circuit used in test 1 video demo.
If this does not attract you please move on and don't waste your time watching this 30 minute video.
As far as I know this is the first ever video demonstration with an explanation of the benefits of a reactive power load on a generator.
Also, I'm not hiding anything in a box!  all is in the open and details given.

Link to video demo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Guc8TADLteM

In the next post I'll include some more details on the effect of using a MOT and capacitors and include some scope shots of test 1 video.

Luc

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Re: Reactive Generator Research for everyone to share
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2013, 10:52:05 PM »
Below you will find the scope shots of the video demonstration.

An oscilloscope is needed to experiment with reactive power as without it you would be working in the dark.
On the low voltage side of MOT primary you will need a Series Capacitor. It can be many different values of AC Capacitors capable of 220vac which you connect in parallel to make the value you need to get the best current and phase shift (90 degrees is ideal).
You should have many cap values from 1uf to 60uf to combine them to find the ideal value plus or minus 1uf.
I suggest starting around 20uf on 220v MOT's and 40uf on 120v MOT's
Please note that even if you combine caps together to get a certain uf value, that Capacitor bank will be connected in Series to the MOT primary.
For the high voltage side of the MOT you will need many HV 2000vac rated caps of small uf values like .22uf or even smaller as small changes make big differences between the secondary and primary. You can even get good results by shorting the secondary as it's self capacitance maybe enough. So maybe Bifilar winding could also be looked at as a secondary which could have its own self capacitance and require no external caps. But like I say you can just try it shorted at first or attach a resistive load if you're using it as output. Also, best to use high resistance between 300 to 1000 ohms. Each MOT has it's ideal load to get max power out and keeping phase at ideal position.

Tuning to be most efficiency like 0 watts input with10 watts out (which I've done) you will need a perfect 90 degrees phase shift.
 It's not easy to do, since as as soon as you connect a load be it Inductive or Resistive our friend Lenz wants to come for a visit. Mostly when it's Inductive!

Now for the microwave oven transformer (MOT)
Why a MOT?... well, it can work with other transformers but my best test results so far was a transformer with a high Impedance secondary (many turns), so naturally a MOT is better suited for this.
I think one could improve over a MOT by maybe using a Utility Line Step Down Transformer which is what could be on Valy's looped generator video (on side close to motor)? don't know if its a large capacitor or a transformer?

See for yourself, here's the link to Valy's looped generator video:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qa3MmdqdQ0

These large utility transformers are designed to step down 7000, 14000 or more Volts AC to 220vac, so it may work better then a MOT? and should be able to maintain very large quantities of reactive magnetic flux within the core which should result in maintaining a next to perfect phase shift when a load (motor) is connected to the low impedance side. But again this would needs to be tested.
Please note that what maybe hidden in Valy box (secret to make the device work) could be a high voltage AC capacitor connected to the HV secondary of the utility transformer and its low voltage coil connected between the 600vac PM generator and the induction motor.  Once he gets it started and flips the switch the induction motor run capacitor is probably used as the primary capacitor.
I also could be wrong and the box maybe a transformer and capacitors of a welder as I have seen a few videos on YT that when a welder is operated it stops the utility meter and even makes it turn backwards:

See for yourself, link to video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcPKz7uEq-8

Anyways, all this needs to be tested to find the best setup

In my Reactive Generator test 1 video what prevented me to further drop the 50 watts used by the induction motor was the limit of my variac voltage output.
I know that may not make sense to you but when you experiment with this you may understand.
To achieve a lower power consumption I would need to get a better phase shift (closer to 90 degrees) and the way to do this would be to reduce the capacitance uf value on the series primary cap bank. However, that action will cause a reaction, so to maintain the induction motor speed I would have to raise the voltage of my variac but I was close to max at 150vac.
Don't be fooled! ... there's better result to be had.  I decided to keep it simple by using a standard variac. The potential of what this could become is what is inportant.
Once you start experimenting and get positive results you will better understand the potential. But I'll tell you, it's not as easy as I make it look in my video. It will take time to master this beast.

The other thing I've not mentioned is about the two MOT's I'm using in the video. They are from South Africa, so 220vac. I brought them back to Canada over a year ago because I was working on a reactive battery charger (this is how this all started) and since the Primaries are for 220vac they would have more turns and possibly a higher Inductance then our 120vac version.
My experiments have confirmed that a MOT with a higher Inductance primary requires a lower series capacitance value for the same amount of real power on the load to secondary compared to the 120vac MOT which needs double the cap uf value for the same output. So possibly less capacitive energy in the primary = less current being wasted in the transformer core as heat caused by eddy currents. I could feel the difference of heat between the two when I tested the 220v vs the 120v.
My best score so far on a reactive load on the output of the generator is around 20 Watts without the generator loosing RPM and raising the power requirement to the prime mover.
I chose not to demonstrate this in test 1 video as the you need 3600 RPM for the alternator to output 120vac and thought it was more important to demonstrate the effect of reactive power on the input prime mover (motor) then only a higher output power as I would needed much more voltage (as mentioned above) to get close to the RPM the alternator needs to output 120vac.
However,  if it would make you happy to see a reactive circuit connected to the output producing 20 watts at no cost to the grid input, then I can upload a video demo for your entertainment.

This is just the beginning as I'm sure with all of us working together we can develop this to a much greater potential. Also note that this could be used on so many applications like a car alternator producing power for HHO production at no cost (load) to engine.
I also think a solid state version (no moving parts) could be possible.
The application possibilities are endless.

To think that everyone trained in electrical or electronics for the past 100 years have been told that reactive power is not useful is hard to believe!... could this be so? am I dreaming?

For the next few weeks I may not be available to answer posts as I have to complete a job to make a little $ to keep living. So I encourage you not to post other than your experiment results in order to keep this topic clean and easy to understand for the new comers.

All the best with your experiments and please share as I have.
If you steal this thinking of self gain you will not gain anything and failed the test of what it is to be a true being of light.

Love all Serve all

Luc

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Re: Reactive Generator Research for everyone to share
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2013, 03:14:52 AM »
Many happy returns to you Luc,
 
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Re: Reactive Generator Research for everyone to share
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2013, 01:48:24 PM »
Happy birthday Luc!!!
I am going to try your discovery on my generator and let you know

Best regards,
Romero

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Re: Reactive Generator Research for everyone to share
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2013, 03:59:58 PM »
Thx alot man, quebec is proud of you.

I am trying to extract the essential here, So was there increased mechanical load or not and your input of motor felt nothing ?




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Re: Reactive Generator Research for everyone to share
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2013, 07:37:38 PM »
Dear gotoluc.

Very well done. Utilisation of reactive power.

One thing puzzles me however. I kept noticing the frequency was showing 60 Hz on your oscilloscope. Can you tell me where that was derived from?

As your drive motor never reached a speed of 3000 RPM (50 Hz single pair pole alternator) or 3600 RPM for 60Hz. I just wondered where this very steady 60 Hz signal was coming from?

Cheers Grum.


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« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2013, 08:17:29 PM »
Hi Grum
The 60hz is coming from the mains via the variac, as far as I know.
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« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2013, 08:47:08 PM »
Hi Grum
The 60hz is coming from the mains via the variac, as far as I know.
peter

Dear Peter.

So there lies the real conundrum!! How come the signals were in phase?? I assumed that at least one of the scope leads was connected to the Alternator. Perhaps if a schematic is shown all will be revealed!!

Cheers Grum.

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« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2013, 09:50:46 PM »
Great work Luc and Happy Birthday!     I picked up a nice 1.5HP motor recently (3 phase) with the idea of doing some experiments along this line.   I think some of this is similar to what has been done with Rotoverters on the EVGray Yahoo group except I believe they are using capacitors to try to make use of reactive power BUT I don't believe I've ever seen anyone using a MOT along with Caps.    I think the combo of the Caps and transformer you have there is a very good way to get the balance needed to make use of reactive power.    While I think I understand your hookup could we get a basic schematic of input and output setups?   Values on parts are not needed as I know that will vary depending on motors and many things.   Just a basic schematic would be great.   
     
   One small item I think may help your results even more.   I suspect you are losing some power with the apparently small gauge clip leads you have feeding the Ryobi motor.   Maybe not much loss but I've made up some of my own clip leads using 12 gauge wire for such purposes.  Excellent video and even with the motor noise I could clearly understand everything you said.   I downloaded it for safe keeping too ;)   

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Re: Reactive Generator Research for everyone to share
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2013, 11:54:05 PM »
Here is a quick test i've done to confirm Luc discovery http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUaNOf_IYBg
It also works with a normal transformer instead of the motor having a solid state version, similar with Stephanov transformer

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Re: Reactive Generator Research for everyone to share
« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2013, 12:05:02 AM »
Can somebody Post a Schematic.


In some spots he has 2 Xfmrs & numerous caps & It's hard to see which wire goes where.


Thanks.

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« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2013, 12:18:06 AM »
Thx alot man, quebec is proud of you.

I am trying to extract the essential here, So was there increased mechanical load or not and your input of motor felt nothing ?

Thanks,

Yes, that would be part of the essential. I was also able to drop the power on the input by about half and still output the same amount of power.

Luc

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Re: Reactive Generator Research for everyone to share
« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2013, 12:20:27 AM »
Dear gotoluc.

Very well done. Utilisation of reactive power.

One thing puzzles me however. I kept noticing the frequency was showing 60 Hz on your oscilloscope. Can you tell me where that was derived from?

As your drive motor never reached a speed of 3000 RPM (50 Hz single pair pole alternator) or 3600 RPM for 60Hz. I just wondered where this very steady 60 Hz signal was coming from?

Cheers Grum.

The Scope and power meter is only on grid side.

Luc

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« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2013, 12:25:13 AM »
Great work Luc and Happy Birthday!     I picked up a nice 1.5HP motor recently (3 phase) with the idea of doing some experiments along this line.   I think some of this is similar to what has been done with Rotoverters on the EVGray Yahoo group except I believe they are using capacitors to try to make use of reactive power BUT I don't believe I've ever seen anyone using a MOT along with Caps.    I think the combo of the Caps and transformer you have there is a very good way to get the balance needed to make use of reactive power.    While I think I understand your hookup could we get a basic schematic of input and output setups?   Values on parts are not needed as I know that will vary depending on motors and many things.   Just a basic schematic would be great.   
     
   One small item I think may help your results even more.   I suspect you are losing some power with the apparently small gauge clip leads you have feeding the Ryobi motor.   Maybe not much loss but I've made up some of my own clip leads using 12 gauge wire for such purposes.  Excellent video and even with the motor noise I could clearly understand everything you said.   I downloaded it for safe keeping too ;)   

All the details you need are in my second post.

The induction motor circuit is very difficult to tune if you have no prior experience with reactive power tuning. I would recommend to start with the below test as you use the grid and a plug-in watts meter to first learn and you see results fast since I worked out most of this.

Start with a 25 watt 1k Ohm load on the secondary but no caps for now. Then start with about a 10uf Series cap on the primary and connect it to grid. Reduce or raise (if needed) the cap uf value until your power meter is at about 1 watt.  Then check your voltage on the 1K Ohm load and do the math. You should have more power out than in.

After that test, reduce your load resistor by 100 or 200 Ohms at a time and you will see you can add uf value to your primary and still stay at zero watts in. And If you raise the Ohms resistor your cap will need to be less to maintain zero watts.

You will find the ideal resistor and cap value which give you most watts out for zero watts in and you will find that each MOT is different.

After you get the hang of it, you can try working with the motor schematic (on next page) but it takes lots of time to tune to ideal levels.

All the best in your experiments

Luc
« Last Edit: November 17, 2013, 07:26:45 AM by gotoluc »

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« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2013, 12:29:23 AM »
Can somebody Post a Schematic.


In some spots he has 2 Xfmrs & numerous caps & It's hard to see which wire goes where.


Thanks.

All the details you need are in my second post. Also, read all my replies above.

Luc

 

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