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Title: DIY Taser for $5 (not OU but still cool)
Post by: Poit on November 14, 2013, 05:30:49 AM
I made this, figured some people here might be interested :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnjDy1vZaso
Title: Re: DIY Taser for $5 (not OU but still cool)
Post by: Pirate88179 on November 14, 2013, 06:14:22 AM
Very good tutorial and well done.

Bill
Title: Re: DIY Taser for $5 (not OU but still cool)
Post by: Poit on November 14, 2013, 06:26:32 AM
Thank you :)
Title: Re: DIY Taser for $5 (not OU but still cool)
Post by: Poit on November 14, 2013, 01:58:35 PM
Does anyone have any suggestions for increasing the power? From what I gather its a simply step up transformer... would increasing the size of the cap on it increase the overall output power?

maybe linking 5 together in series?

any ideas would be appreciated :)

Poit
Title: Re: DIY Taser for $5 (not OU but still cool)
Post by: ramset on November 14, 2013, 02:19:36 PM
Poit
 
Would seem an Odd topic ?
 
?
 
What will these be used for ..........[More power?]
 
 
Thx
Chet
Title: Re: DIY Taser for $5 (not OU but still cool)
Post by: Poit on November 14, 2013, 02:28:09 PM
Multiple reasons.. I want to experiment with it... try and get it to power a fluorescent light.. maybe link it with Laser Sabres Joul ringer?

And obviously as a weapon... a taser...

Apart from its current state, not sure which direction to go in really.. hence why I am asking for suggestions

Poit
Title: Re: DIY Taser for $5 (not OU but still cool)
Post by: totoalas on November 14, 2013, 07:52:16 PM
Multiple reasons.. I want to experiment with it... try and get it to power a fluorescent light.. maybe link it with Laser Sabres Joul ringer?

And obviously as a weapon... a taser...

Apart from its current state, not sure which direction to go in really.. hence why I am asking for suggestions

Poit
good video
heat issues when used for lighting up fl lamps  or joule ringer ......   but might work
with charging caps in primaries to produce resonance which is short duration only
thanks
Title: Re: DIY Taser for $5 (not OU but still cool)
Post by: anomdeguerre on November 14, 2013, 09:51:01 PM
Does anyone have any suggestions for increasing the power? From what I gather its a simply step up transformer... would increasing the size of the cap on it increase the overall output power?

maybe linking 5 together in series?

any ideas would be appreciated :)

Poit
My good friend Wilby says... Yes, increase the size of the cap to increase output. Be careful not to exceed safe ranges, cap discharges can be lethal. To light a fluoro, remove the cap.
Title: Re: DIY Taser for $5 (not OU but still cool)
Post by: Poit on November 15, 2013, 02:21:33 AM
My good friend Wilby says... Yes, increase the size of the cap to increase output. Be careful not to exceed safe ranges, cap discharges can be lethal. To light a fluoro, remove the cap.

Surely there would be a limit to the output power.. i mean, say I exchanged the cap for a 1F cap... wouldnt it taper off at some point, i mean, wouldn't it not get another more voltage through past a certain capacitance due to the limitation of the circuitry?
Title: Re: DIY Taser for $5 (not OU but still cool)
Post by: TinselKoala on November 15, 2013, 07:59:16 AM
Surely there would be a limit to the output power.. i mean, say I exchanged the cap for a 1F cap... wouldnt it taper off at some point, i mean, wouldn't it not get another more voltage through past a certain capacitance due to the limitation of the circuitry?
Power (Watts) is not voltage, voltage is not energy (Joules). With a bigger cap, you can put more of the _energy_ that is originally in the battery, into the capacitor. If the capacitor isn't leaky it will eventually charge up to the maximum voltage that the oscillator puts out, if the battery lasts long enough.
OK... so now you have all the energy that was in the battery, now in the cap. When you discharge the cap, it can all be released very quickly, much more quickly than the battery could do even by a direct short circuit. Since power is energy/time, you can see that you can attain very high _power_ if the time of the discharge of the energy is very short.
1 Watt = 1 Joule / second.
10 Watts = 1 Joule / 0.1 second.
100 Watts = 1 Joule / 0.01 second.
And so on.
Title: Re: DIY Taser for $5 (not OU but still cool)
Post by: TinselKoala on November 15, 2013, 08:11:29 AM
Multiple reasons.. I want to experiment with it... try and get it to power a fluorescent light.. maybe link it with Laser Sabres Joul ringer?

And obviously as a weapon... a taser...

Apart from its current state, not sure which direction to go in really.. hence why I am asking for suggestions

Poit

It would make a great HV flyswatter!

You could even use that tennis-racket like thing from the first picture.....

 ;)



Title: Re: DIY Taser for $5 (not OU but still cool)
Post by: Poit on November 15, 2013, 09:56:39 AM
Power (Watts) is not voltage, voltage is not energy (Joules). With a bigger cap, you can put more of the _energy_ that is originally in the battery, into the capacitor. If the capacitor isn't leaky it will eventually charge up to the maximum voltage that the oscillator puts out, if the battery lasts long enough.
OK... so now you have all the energy that was in the battery, now in the cap. When you discharge the cap, it can all be released very quickly, much more quickly than the battery could do even by a direct short circuit. Since power is energy/time, you can see that you can attain very high _power_ if the time of the discharge of the energy is very short.
1 Watt = 1 Joule / second.
10 Watts = 1 Joule / 0.1 second.
100 Watts = 1 Joule / 0.01 second.
And so on.

Thanks TK,
Never really thought about it like that.. I think I have some 5.5Volt 1F caps in my box of components, might give that a whirl... ill post a video if i get around to doing it

Poit

(P.S, Since the batteries are 1.5 volt x 2 (i.e 3 volts total), by putting a 5.5 volt cap, that means the cap would never exceed 3volt yea? or does the circuit up the voltage to the cap?)
Title: Re: DIY Taser for $5 (not OU but still cool)
Post by: ramset on November 15, 2013, 02:27:02 PM
anomdeguerre (http://www.overunity.com/profile/anomdeguerre.24419/) 
Quote
My good friend Wilby
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sigh......
 
perhaps we will need a Taser!
 
Thx
Chet!
 
 
Title: Re: DIY Taser for $5 (not OU but still cool)
Post by: TinselKoala on November 15, 2013, 02:31:02 PM
Hmm.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flyswatter#Electric_flyswatter (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flyswatter#Electric_flyswatter)

It looks to me like there are a couple of designs in use. I can't tell which one you've got from the video.

There is one that is just an oscillator charging a final capacitor through a single diode. This one will charge the capacitor to near the full output voltage of the oscillator/transformer which, as you measured, is several kilovolts total (but it looks like the cap is on one winding of the transformer so it won't get that high in total). The other one uses a 3 or 4 or even 5 stage Cockcroft Walton voltage multiplier on the output for even more voltage. The final capacitor in the device, either circuit, must be able to take this full voltage, or at least the voltage of one stage of the CW multiplier. The ones I see are using 630 volt poly film caps.

Can you tell which circuit you've got?
Title: Re: DIY Taser for $5 (not OU but still cool)
Post by: Farmhand on November 15, 2013, 03:10:40 PM
You can get a quite powerful stun gun from new frog for 16 dollars, a real one. How much is the fly zapper ? Edit: My bad I see $5 dollars for the zapper and a fun project, can't lose there well done.

There are many different ones, I know the 928 model works because I've been hit with one.  ;) And have no desire for a repeat event. Here is a tip, never volunteer to be the shock victim. No fun in it at all. The capacitor boogie is not a fun dance.  :)

One feature I like about the 928 model is the HV conductors wrap around the end so if the attacker grabs for it to try to get behind the points the external side conductors get them. hehehehee

928 model
http://www.newfrog.com/p/928-self-defense-high-voltage-electric-shock-highlight-flashlight-stun-gun-26732.html

Variety of units.
http://www.newfrog.com/catalogsearch/result/stun-gun.html?cat=

Very powerful 1.5 inch sparks and quite rapid and very loud.

You could increase the power per pulse on your zapper, but that would lower the frequency of the discharges because the peak power to the cap would be the same about. To keep a person under control the repetition would need to be fairly rapid.

Cheers
Title: Re: DIY Taser for $5 (not OU but still cool)
Post by: Lakes on November 16, 2013, 10:45:08 AM
For any Uk folks reading, it's ok to own a flyswatter, but illegal to own or make a tazer. :) 
Title: Re: DIY Taser for $5 (not OU but still cool)
Post by: totoalas on November 16, 2013, 10:58:09 AM
You can use a camera flash as taser as well     
Title: Re: DIY Taser for $5 (not OU but still cool)
Post by: Farmhand on November 16, 2013, 10:36:00 PM
For any Uk folks reading, it's ok to own a flyswatter, but illegal to own or make a tazer. :)

A Tazer is a firearm, it fires a round that projects the electrodes into the target, and it can also be used as a stun gun after the extended electrodes are removed.

A stun gun is different, a stun gun is not a firearm, a stun gun is a close quarters defensive tool, I would not rely on a stun gun to attack someone, it's not an offensive weapon.

Having said that, as far as I know they are illegal in a lot of places for most people. That is going by the laws made by criminals. However under common law no thing is illegal, unless it unnecessarily causes harm or loss to someone. If something is necessary to maintain your own safety do it I say.

Cheers
Title: Re: DIY Taser for $5 (not OU but still cool)
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 17, 2013, 12:44:53 AM
hi everyone  ;D


or, if you want you can buy a very small inverter that is readily available in the market today in SM  CDRKING store.  ;)


i'm even use it as fish catching in my vicinity, this is very small, very light and you can choose the wattage you want.  8)


The important thing is that it is readily available and no more much thing to modify  ;)   ;D ;D ;D [size=78%] [/size]
i think it can be use in visayas also isn't it to catch fish for immediate food. hmmm :o [size=78%] [/size]


And Now!, if you really want to kill someone buy the 500watts inverter amounting to just less than 1000 pesos ;D ;D ;D  well, i'm not liable for your criminality, i'm just making myself as your mastermind teacher. ;D ;D ;D ;D  hahhhahahahhahahhaahhahahahahahahahaha


really effective just give a try to your self if it can really kill and the rest is history  ;) [size=78%] [/size] ;D ;D ;D
hahhahahahhahahhahahah


otits  ;D
Title: Re: DIY Taser for $5 (not OU but still cool)
Post by: Qwert on November 17, 2013, 01:42:42 AM
May somebody offer a way to build an equivalent of a painting gun which is available on market but is very expensive (about $2000)? It roughly uses the principle of flyswatter but creates ions which associate with paint and the painted metallic object. I need such to paint my wire / chain link fence which obviously cannot be done by regular gun.
Title: Re: DIY Taser for $5 (not OU but still cool)
Post by: Farmhand on November 17, 2013, 01:54:26 AM
Here's a site on defensive use of electrical devices, If I was to make one I would just call it something else and say it's use is for something else. And stick with the story. I have animals I could say it for control of animals it is perfectly legal to own a cattle prod which is almost a stun gun anyway, just bigger and work a little bit different. Now if I was to take up the use of one hand with anything when in danger it would need to be effective or it's a liability.

http://www.safersecurityinc.com/personal_security1.html

An electric fence for stock gives a shock into the Joules and really hurts but they are about 1.5 seconds apart so that the animal or person can safely disengage the fence before the second shock or at least the fence does not incapacitate the person or animal unless the person or animal actually gets caught up in the fence without shorting the live wire to ground.

I think there is a device called the "Alabama fishing pole" which is a box to electrocute fish in a pond. They do work. Bureaucrats in an office know little of what is right and what is wrong. I do what I think is right and I don't do what I think is wrong. That is mainly what I worry about.
Title: Re: DIY Taser for $5 (not OU but still cool)
Post by: Poit on November 19, 2013, 09:29:42 AM
A Tazer is a firearm, it fires a round that projects the electrodes into the target, and it can also be used as a stun gun after the extended electrodes are removed.

A stun gun is different, a stun gun is not a firearm, a stun gun is a close quarters defensive tool, I would not rely on a stun gun to attack someone, it's not an offensive weapon.

Having said that, as far as I know they are illegal in a lot of places for most people. That is going by the laws made by criminals. However under common law no thing is illegal, unless it unnecessarily causes harm or loss to someone. If something is necessary to maintain your own safety do it I say.

Cheers

Here in Australia, just about anything 'fun' is illegal... hell! even laser pointers are illegal (over 1mW any ways, lets face it... 1mW and below is just lame! haha)....

Just off the top of my head, these are the things that are illegal that i hate being illegal
- ANY motorised scooters (you know the unregistered types)
- Green laser pointers
- Growing tobacco ($10,000 + 2 years in prison! meanwhile, its more or less a slap on the wrist for having marijuana!! conflict of interest much! stupid government)
- Pretty much any weapons, including self protection gear like pepper spray, stun guns, tasers, normal guns, you name it, its either illegal or close to impossible to get the right 'paper work' to own legit.

There are heaps more things illegal here that ought not be, but ill end my rant with saying that i do love australia, but lets not be fooled, its a freaking nanny state

poit
Title: Re: DIY Taser for $5 (not OU but still cool)
Post by: Poit on November 19, 2013, 09:32:04 AM
Hmm.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flyswatter#Electric_flyswatter (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flyswatter#Electric_flyswatter)

It looks to me like there are a couple of designs in use. I can't tell which one you've got from the video.

There is one that is just an oscillator charging a final capacitor through a single diode. This one will charge the capacitor to near the full output voltage of the oscillator/transformer which, as you measured, is several kilovolts total (but it looks like the cap is on one winding of the transformer so it won't get that high in total). The other one uses a 3 or 4 or even 5 stage Cockcroft Walton voltage multiplier on the output for even more voltage. The final capacitor in the device, either circuit, must be able to take this full voltage, or at least the voltage of one stage of the CW multiplier. The ones I see are using 630 volt poly film caps.

Can you tell which circuit you've got?

I can't really tell just by looking at the circuit board.. if i take a picture and post it, could you tell just from a picture?

Poit
Title: Re: DIY Taser for $5 (not OU but still cool)
Post by: TinselKoala on November 19, 2013, 10:33:42 AM
I can't really tell just by looking at the circuit board.. if i take a picture and post it, could you tell just from a picture?

Poit
If you take and post a clear picture of each side of the circuit board I can probably work out the circuit from that. Also, if you can see markings or part numbers on the parts, that would be very helpful to know.



@Tito, and other "fishers": If you are using electric stunners to kill/catch fish.... I hope somebody makes you eat every single thing you kill in your pond. Every single thing. Because you are killing lots more than just a few fish. You may not think that is "wrong" and it may not even be illegal where you live. That doesn't make it right.

Just because something isn't illegal... that doesn't mean it's right, just as the fact that something IS illegal doesn't mean it's wrong. Around here, people "hunt" deer, by putting up a permanent blind and an automatic deer feeder. All year long the deer come to the unoccupied blind and eat at the feeder. Then, when deer season opens.... they discover that there is a "hunter" inside the blind with a high-powered rifle. This is legal... but in my opinion it is not hunting, it is slaughter, and it is not right or moral in any sense of the term. Same with stunning fish electrically. You need that food to feed your starving family, fine. Don't spend money on electronic gadgets then, and eat _all_ you kill. Otherwise you are no better than an animal. Worse, actually, since animals don't kill for fun.
Title: Re: DIY Taser for $5 (not OU but still cool)
Post by: Farmhand on November 19, 2013, 11:02:44 AM
Hi Tinsel, I agree, I don't condone it's use either. I don't have one or intend to get one, I just mentioned there was such a thing is all, when I fish for Barramundi, I use a Cast net to catch live bait which is usually edible prawns but alive up to 6 inches long  ;), (while watching for crocs), then use the live baits on a rod and reel, (I even return the live baits I don't use if I don't eat them myself), it's the challenge that makes it worth it for me. But I'm lucky, we have good fishing around here, hard not to catch good eating fish.

Although, the fisheries and government scientists use electric shock to stun fish to tag and release, I think they use around the few hundred volt mark but pulsed I think and use the boat hull and an anode to create a definite current path. And claim they do not harm the fish. But they have research and expensive equipment and training on how to use it.

Like this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peSzPa-ynpk 

However this video below shows why numbskulls should not do it. He's lucky to be still alive. Probably still in pain. I hope he learned his lesson, I think he was using one of the alibaba ones. Maybe. He has no escape without help.

Warning: "GRAPHIC ELECTROCUTION" in this clip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liLjIIRW2SY

Cheers

P.S. Poit, I think it's ok to have a <5 mw laser sight. Not sure but you're probably right, I have a red dot laser sight for my bow, it's not very powerful so it's probably less than 1 mw.
it spreads quick too, cheap ebay one, but good enough for up to 20 meters in low light. Yes nanny state for sure, I'm glad I live in the bush "almost". At least we are allowed to make our own spirits and own a still ect. Pfft, I say allowed but I mean at least the nanny's don't freak out. I think it's ok to grow your own tobacco as well but only if it does not get sold or leave the property or given to minors ect ect. maybe not sure on that either but I did buy 1500 tobacco seeds, if you are in Oz I would suggest buy some form ebay I can link you an item or seller if you like, it might depend on where they come from, I got them from the U.S.A., I had no problems and it was declared. Having them and growing them are different things though. who know what madness the law says. I challenge anybody to read all the laws so they know what they cannot do.

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Title: Re: DIY Taser for $5 (not OU but still cool)
Post by: anomdeguerre on November 19, 2013, 09:01:49 PM
Just because something isn't illegal... that doesn't mean it's right, just as the fact that something IS illegal doesn't mean it's wrong. Around here, people "hunt" deer, by putting up a permanent blind and an automatic deer feeder. All year long the deer come to the unoccupied blind and eat at the feeder. Then, when deer season opens.... they discover that there is a "hunter" inside the blind with a high-powered rifle. This is legal... but in my opinion it is not hunting, it is slaughter, and it is not right or moral in any sense of the term. Same with stunning fish electrically. You need that food to feed your starving family, fine. Don't spend money on electronic gadgets then, and eat _all_ you kill. Otherwise you are no better than an animal. Worse, actually, since animals don't kill for fun.
Is it safe for us to assume that you don't buy your meat from the grocery store then? All meat at the grocery store comes from a slaughterhouse. Quit being such a bleeding heart. Life feeds on life. So it is, so it has always been. What is 'right' and 'moral' is subjective. Man is an animal.
Title: Re: DIY Taser for $5 (not OU but still cool)
Post by: TinselKoala on November 19, 2013, 10:13:08 PM
It's safe to assume, as you say, that you are someone who cares not about consequences for the future and are in some kind of tooth-and-claw competition for limited resources and will take all you can get, by whatever means you deem necessary, including killing everything in a pond so that you can easily have your next meal. Since THAT is what we, some of us, were talking about.
Why not fish with hand grenades then? Why not use trawls, killing everything so that you can have your few high-dollar fish in your catch? Why not "fin" sharks, since only the fins are worth selling? Kill dolphins along with your tuna, go ahead, it's your world and there are far more people who think like you do than who think like me.

I've noticed this about you "anomdeguerre". You contribute nothing, but you are willing to troll and stalk me whenever you can.

Moral relativism, the philosophy that you hypocritically espouse in your comment, ultimately means that the person or group with the most and biggest guns gets to decide what is "right" and imposes that upon everyone else ... and that is wrong.
Title: Re: DIY Taser for $5 (not OU but still cool)
Post by: Poit on November 20, 2013, 03:25:40 AM
Hi Tinsel, I agree, I don't condone it's use either. I don't have one or intend to get one, I just mentioned there was such a thing is all, when I fish for Barramundi, I use a Cast net to catch live bait which is usually edible prawns but alive up to 6 inches long  ;) , (while watching for crocs), then use the live baits on a rod and reel, (I even return the live baits I don't use if I don't eat them myself), it's the challenge that makes it worth it for me. But I'm lucky, we have good fishing around here, hard not to catch good eating fish.

Although, the fisheries and government scientists use electric shock to stun fish to tag and release, I think they use around the few hundred volt mark but pulsed I think and use the boat hull and an anode to create a definite current path. And claim they do not harm the fish. But they have research and expensive equipment and training on how to use it.

Like this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peSzPa-ynpk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peSzPa-ynpk) 

However this video below shows why numbskulls should not do it. He's lucky to be still alive. Probably still in pain. I hope he learned his lesson, I think he was using one of the alibaba ones. Maybe. He has no escape without help.

Warning: "GRAPHIC ELECTROCUTION" in this clip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liLjIIRW2SY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liLjIIRW2SY)

Cheers

P.S. Poit, I think it's ok to have a <5 mw laser sight. Not sure but you're probably right, I have a red dot laser sight for my bow, it's not very powerful so it's probably less than 1 mw.
it spreads quick too, cheap ebay one, but good enough for up to 20 meters in low light. Yes nanny state for sure, I'm glad I live in the bush "almost". At least we are allowed to make our own spirits and own a still ect. Pfft, I say allowed but I mean at least the nanny's don't freak out. I think it's ok to grow your own tobacco as well but only if it does not get sold or leave the property or given to minors ect ect. maybe not sure on that either but I did buy 1500 tobacco seeds, if you are in Oz I would suggest buy some form ebay I can link you an item or seller if you like, it might depend on where they come from, I got them from the U.S.A., I had no problems and it was declared. Having them and growing them are different things though. who know what madness the law says. I challenge anybody to read all the laws so they know what they cannot do.

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sorry, it IS 1mW http://youtu.be/tNeyUacHuQo?t=16s

"At least we are allowed to make our own spirits and own a still" 
http://www.comlaw.gov.au/ComLaw/Legislation/ActCompilation1.nsf/0/F20483DE5083F9BDCA2571A80006C3B1?OpenDocument

you might be right... but we can most definitly not sell the stuff... as refered to as "excisable goods" in the above link

"I think it's ok to grow your own tobacco"
sorry... at least in NSW, it is very crap
http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ea190180/s28.html

 EXCISE ACT 1901 - SECT 28  Only licensed producers to produce tobacco leaf etc.              (1)  A person who does not hold a producer (http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ea190180/s4.html#producer_licence) licence (http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ea190180/s4.html#producer_licence) must not intentionally produce material that is tobacco seed, tobacco plant or tobacco leaf knowing, or being reckless as to whether, the material is tobacco seed, tobacco plant or tobacco leaf.
Penalty: 
                     (a)  for tobacco seed or tobacco plant--2 years imprisonment or 500 penalty units; and
                     (b)  for tobacco leaf--2 years imprisonment or the greater of:
                              (i)  500 penalty units; and
                             (ii)  5 times the amount of duty, worked out under the regulations, being the duty that would be payable if the tobacco leaf had been manufactured (http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ea190180/s4.html#manufacture) into excisable goods (http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ea190180/s4.html#excisable_goods) and entered for home consumption on the penalty day (http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ea190180/s4.html#penalty_day).
Note:          See section 4AA of the Crimes Act 1914  for the current value of a penalty unit.
             (2)  A person who does not hold a producer (http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ea190180/s4.html#producer_licence) licence (http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ea190180/s4.html#producer_licence) must not produce tobacco seed, tobacco plant or tobacco leaf.
Penalty:  100 penalty units.
             (3)  Strict liability applies to subsection (2).



a penality unit is $110
so, 500 x 110 = $55,000
Title: Re: DIY Taser for $5 (not OU but still cool)
Post by: Poit on November 20, 2013, 03:32:22 AM
so.. to compare...

to own a single tobacco seed would get you $55,000 fine or 2 years prison (or both)...

and to have an out right illegal substance like LCD, its $2,200 and 2 years prison
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/archive/index.php/t-610760.html?s=0dab0b93fbb75bf86f07a5ce9e8f6690

"Possession of this amount would result in a penalty of 20 Units and 2 years imprisonment."
Title: Re: DIY Taser for $5 (not OU but still cool)
Post by: Farmhand on November 20, 2013, 03:51:12 AM
Hi Poit, Thank you very much for the links. I'm going to keep them in mind, however I see them as "Acts of Parliament" relating directly and only to "Excise", I don't see them as laws. I think the Excise acts are about money/taxation without representation, if no money is involved then they will not care a hoot, unless they have something against me specifically.

Common Law is King unless we submit to commercial law willingly, not necessarily knowingly. We can reject it and request a trial by peers under common law.

If there is good reason not to grow tobacco then they should have stopped it before the seeds got to me as they were in fact "declared" as per their import protocols. The seed is now in my possession and unless I harm someone I commit no crime. If they take the seed from me they would be denying my of my possession, which is stealing and a crime under common law.  :)

Exercising these rights are not for the feint of heart, for those in difficult circumstances or those with others depending on them, it is up to us with little to lose to keep the oppression at bay. From Ebay.  ;)

I make my own spirits and I don't see why it needs to be sold, if you want some it is dead easy to do. My second ferment distillate came out at 65% ABV and tastes like Bundaberg rum, but it's a lot better, not so sickly sweet a flavor and very smooth considering the 130 proof. It tastes so good I can't bear to burn it even though I only take a medicinal drink occasionally.

I very much appreciate the heads up on the acts though. Handy to know for sure. Thank you.

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Title: Re: DIY Taser for $5 (not OU but still cool)
Post by: Poit on November 22, 2013, 11:20:04 AM
Hi Poit, Thank you very much for the links. I'm going to keep them in mind, however I see them as "Acts of Parliament" relating directly and only to "Excise", I don't see them as laws. I think the Excise acts are about money/taxation without representation, if no money is involved then they will not care a hoot, unless they have something against me specifically.

Common Law is King unless we submit to commercial law willingly, not necessarily knowingly. We can reject it and request a trial by peers under common law.

If there is good reason not to grow tobacco then they should have stopped it before the seeds got to me as they were in fact "declared" as per their import protocols. The seed is now in my possession and unless I harm someone I commit no crime. If they take the seed from me they would be denying my of my possession, which is stealing and a crime under common law.  :)

Exercising these rights are not for the feint of heart, for those in difficult circumstances or those with others depending on them, it is up to us with little to lose to keep the oppression at bay. From Ebay.  ;)

I make my own spirits and I don't see why it needs to be sold, if you want some it is dead easy to do. My second ferment distillate came out at 65% ABV and tastes like Bundaberg rum, but it's a lot better, not so sickly sweet a flavor and very smooth considering the 130 proof. It tastes so good I can't bear to burn it even though I only take a medicinal drink occasionally.

I very much appreciate the heads up on the acts though. Handy to know for sure. Thank you.

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You are welcome..

do you have any links about this common law you speak of "We can reject it and request a trial by peers under common law."

Thanks,
Poit
Title: Re: DIY Taser for $5 (not OU but still cool)
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on November 23, 2013, 09:56:48 AM
If you take and post a clear picture of each side of the circuit board I can probably work out the circuit from that. Also, if you can see markings or part numbers on the parts, that would be very helpful to know.



@Tito, and other "fishers": If you are using electric stunners to kill/catch fish.... I hope somebody makes you eat every single thing you kill in your pond. Every single thing. Because you are killing lots more than just a few fish. You may not think that is "wrong" and it may not even be illegal where you live. That doesn't make it right.

Just because something isn't illegal... that doesn't mean it's right, just as the fact that something IS illegal doesn't mean it's wrong. Around here, people "hunt" deer, by putting up a permanent blind and an automatic deer feeder. All year long the deer come to the unoccupied blind and eat at the feeder. Then, when deer season opens.... they discover that there is a "hunter" inside the blind with a high-powered rifle. This is legal... but in my opinion it is not hunting, it is slaughter, and it is not right or moral in any sense of the term. Same with stunning fish electrically. You need that food to feed your starving family, fine. Don't spend money on electronic gadgets then, and eat _all_ you kill. Otherwise you are no better than an animal. Worse, actually, since animals don't kill for fun.


Hahahahahahahhhah ;D


its actually just for educational purposes only, i don't do that always, just an experiment if its effective.  ;D
i think progress cannot move on higher if many scientist think the way you are ok. :) 
i think that reading and studying here is not good anymore also, isn't it ladies and gentlemen. ???   :-\ :'( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASO_zypdnsQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASO_zypdnsQ)


But if no more choice why not!  >:(
i don't eat always fish! ok, i eat vegetable and meat also ;D


Your just good in talking and judging everything as if you are right already. :)
well, to be fair, your are right at one point but not assh-whole  ;D  sorry i'm not good in spelling  ;D   joke  ;D 


To be fair also @ anomdeguerre, he is also right isn't it?


THEREFORE I CONCLUDE THAT THE REAL RIGHT IS DON'T DO OVER TOO MUCH. AGREED?  :P


You know what?, the too much in you is you are over reacting. am i right ladies and gentlemen?  ;D   sensitive  :P   :D  peace be with you >:(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASO_zypdnsQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASO_zypdnsQ)

WE are just studying here and learning everything ok.  :)


one thing more, i'm pro animal like koala, i don't electrocute them  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D  but i feed them to fish i catch.  ;D


When you are thinking, do not do some over acting or very serious ok, because we have lots of best actors already.  ;)   ;D ;D ;D ;D
got it!!!!!!  >:( >:( >:(


oooops i just carried away sorry. ;) ;D ;D ;D


next time i'll catch a fish for you buddy.  ;) ;D  hahahahhahahahhahahhahahhaha


that's it smile, laugh and laugh and laugh.  :D

ok stop now! >:( . let us all friends again. and i will not catch fish anymore. :'(   :-\ :-*

otits ;D
 
Title: Re: DIY Taser for $5 (not OU but still cool)
Post by: Poit on November 27, 2013, 03:38:48 PM
Hi TK,

I took pictures of the circuit board...

http://s389.photobucket.com/user/poit187/library/TaserCircuitBoard
Title: Re: DIY Taser for $5 (not OU but still cool)
Post by: Poit on November 29, 2013, 04:45:59 AM
*bump*

TK?