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Title: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
Post by: hartiberlin on November 13, 2013, 10:50:31 PM
Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor ! Thomas Engel has done it.
This is a motor that only needs 72 MilliWatts of input power but delivers huge torque shaft power
from Neodym magnets at its axis.

This is a German Newapaper arcticle about it and a friend did send me a link to it.
Get it here:

http://www.multiupload.nl/A1F1WW5GAW

This is a Multiupload to different File servers, but you only need to download from one of these servers,
best is the Multiupload server itsself as it does not contain so much advertisement.
The other server are only there, if the file gets deleted from one server...
Title: Re: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
Post by: gyulasun on November 14, 2013, 12:39:03 AM
Hi Stefan,

What has been disclosed on the working principle?  Nothing yet? 

thanks,
Gyula
Title: Re: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
Post by: hartiberlin on November 14, 2013, 02:47:03 AM
It seems it has some kind of "mirror plate" with a permanent magnet on it between the stator and rotor
plate. This "mirror plate" has to be turned by a small electric motor which only uses 72 MilliWatts,
but at the shaft of the rotating main disc there is a real torque due to the strong Neodym magnets.
So you need much less power to turn this special "mirror plate",.....

but more was not revealed.

I will try to get in contact with the inventor directly by phone, if I can find him...

Regards, Stefan.
Title: Re: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
Post by: Magluvin on November 14, 2013, 03:42:53 AM
Hey Stefan

Could you post the pdf here. My internet is restricted some, where anything with say MegaUplaod gets blocked. I just found out this was 1 of those restrictions trying to download it.

Mags
Title: Re: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
Post by: tiquila77 on November 14, 2013, 03:57:53 AM
The machine looks like a homopolar generator; what is the COP of the machine?
Title: Re: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
Post by: hartiberlin on November 14, 2013, 04:03:28 AM
Get it from one of the servers here:

http://www4.multiupload.nl:81/files/3EA842A96F3E0ED8484ABC189D52E72FD13DDA784865F94A179F9C3BA33888D819516B6D16CA847C47AAD99B4D983FC464E39566C681102C7054B5DEFF52FAE2030E3A8B9E85F5BFD006/engel_magnet_motor.zip


https://www.crocko.com/6B9C1301A5B14142AD69B4DAD912902B/engel_magnet_motor.zip

http://uppit.com/i5dg052rwiy8

http://www.fileswap.com/dl/QzmQATnPMw/engel_magnet_motor.zip.html


http://filerio.in/f5deep442mz9


https://depositfiles.com/files/gd6jr3l4h


http://www.putlocker.com/file/30A6F57C8A1FFF38

http://bitshare.com/files/iqqzpr6e/engel_magnet_motor.zip.html

They all have free download possibilities, if you click the right links there and wait for the counter...

Sorry, can´t copy it here, as this is a newspaper article that has rigid copyright policies...

Title: Re: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
Post by: e2matrix on November 14, 2013, 05:27:47 PM
Hey Stefan

Could you post the pdf here. My internet is restricted some, where anything with say MegaUplaod gets blocked. I just found out this was 1 of those restrictions trying to download it.

Mags
Proxy?  secure proxy free, small, easy setup and good to go:  www.securitykiss.com    unless you are on a business computer where they won't let you install anything.   
Title: Re: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
Post by: Floor on November 14, 2013, 06:31:14 PM
I'm betting that this one is the real deal :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

                                     Yeeeeee Ha !


                                      floor

                                         
Title: Re: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
Post by: MenofFather on November 14, 2013, 07:28:12 PM
The machine looks like a homopolar generator; what is the COP of the machine?
Homopolar motor (with magnets) have about 200 procents max COP. In low RPM it COP below 1.
Title: Re: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
Post by: hartiberlin on November 14, 2013, 10:30:58 PM
No Homopolar motor.

I found today his son and did send him an email.
Will see, if the son will reply.

As he has a big company too, I hope he is not too busy.

His secretary did not let me speak with him and also he was not in the office when I called.

Regards. Stefan.
Title: Re: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
Post by: hartiberlin on November 15, 2013, 04:17:10 PM
I had a telephone conversation today with his son.

The inverntor is already pretty old 86 year of age and
has not the best health condition.

His son will make contact with him and maybe I can also view
another 2nd motor that is in a German city located.
The 1st prototype is in Luzern Switzerland.

Thomas Engel is really a very famous inventor in the plastic industry
and made his money by inventing polyethylen production processes
and patenting them.
He has over 120 patents.

Here is a website with his bio:

http://www.thomas-engel.info/einleitung.htm

Here translated by automatic Google Translator:

http://translate.google.de/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thomas-engel.info%2FPDFs%2Fmit-28-mio.htm

I will keep you posted, when his son comes back with new infos.

Regards, Stefan.

Title: Re: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
Post by: conradelektro on November 15, 2013, 05:30:14 PM
I hope that some people read the last sentences in the article about the motor:

"Engel will einen kleinen Generatoran die Welle hängen und damit zeigen, dass sein Motor mehr Strom liefert als die Steuerung braucht. Wenn ihm das gelänge, ware die Sensation perfekt."

Translation: "Engel (the inventor) wants to connect a small generator to the axle (of the motor) in order to demonstrate that the motor generates more electricity than the controller (which consumes 8 mA at 9 V = 81 mW) needs. The sensation would be perfect if he (the inventor) succeeded in doing that."

My conclusion: the most obvious test to show OU has not been done. And no attempt was made to quantify the output in any serious way.

Whatever that means, it shows an astonishing bad stile of the writer of the article and of the inventor. A well known inventor should be able to do the obvious test. And a serious journal should know how to do some serious measurements.

Greetings, Conrad
Title: Re: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
Post by: gyulasun on November 23, 2013, 12:51:57 PM
Hi Folks,

I found a very good translation of the FULL German newspaper report on Mr Engel's permanent magnet motor, see this printer friendly link to it:

http://blog.hasslberger.com/2013/11/german_inventor_solves_permane-print.html (http://blog.hasslberger.com/2013/11/german_inventor_solves_permane-print.html)


Stefan, any more news from his son or from the motor itself since then?

Thanks, Gyula
Title: Re: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
Post by: gyulasun on November 23, 2013, 12:52:51 PM
double post sorry
Title: Re: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
Post by: Poit on November 23, 2013, 01:06:31 PM
I apologize for been negative.... don't get me wrong, sounds fantastic! but honestly.... how many times does one need to be burnt?

I will stop here, but I will say one last thing.......................... i'll believe it when I can build it! and history unfortunatly dictates that this just wont happen.. some soppy story about how the only working prototype was destroyed, or someone got sick.. or ... (insert soppy excuse for not releasing the ACTUAL free energy device here!)

Hate me all you want... but deep down you know you will be let down (again!)

Poit
Title: Re: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
Post by: gyulasun on November 23, 2013, 02:58:04 PM
Hi Poit,

I agree with both Conrad and you because there have been no correct input - output measurements given so far.

From the good translation I referred to it turns out for me that the principle is based on magnetic gears, a disk magnet (Mr Engel calls it a "mirror") is rotated (at a certain distance from the rotor of the setup) by a small DC motor (with input power of 8mA*9V=72mW) and the attract or repel forces between the disk magnet and that of the other magnets fixed on the rotor of the setup make this setup operate.

As always, time will tell...

Gyula
Title: Re: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
Post by: Poit on November 24, 2013, 11:39:10 AM
and the wait for the inevitable disappointment begins
Title: Re: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
Post by: Newton II on November 25, 2013, 04:06:38 AM
Hi Folks,

I found a very good translation of the FULL German newspaper report on Mr Engel's permanent magnet motor, see this printer friendly link to it:

http://blog.hasslberger.com/2013/11/german_inventor_solves_permane-print.html (http://blog.hasslberger.com/2013/11/german_inventor_solves_permane-print.html)

Stefan, any more news from his son or from the motor itself since then?

Thanks, Gyula


Thanks for that link.  Now I got some idea about it. 

I think he is trying to rotate a diametrically bigger magnet with a smaller one which he calls as 'mirror'.   By doing so,  you will get greater torque at the center of bigger magnet due to mechanical advantage which is same as any gear, pulley or chain drive.

This setup may work only if  rotor and the 'mirror'  rotate with same speed thereby utilising the excess mechanical  advantage.  If the rotor and mirror rotate with different speeds  proportional to inverse ratio of their diameters,  then torque gained by bigger rotor will be lost in time  (it rotates with lesser speed) as in the case of any standard gear or pulley drive.

I think I have seen such a design before also in this forum :

http://www.overunity.com/11586/magnetic-motor-with-electromagnets-idea/msg303738/#msg303738

The sketch given by ELEMAN in his thread   'HOW TO BUILD MAGNET MOTOR'  also resembles the same thing.

http://www.overunity.com/14042/how-to-build-a-magnet-motor/msg377802/#msg377802

Title: Re: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
Post by: Poit on November 27, 2013, 03:45:34 PM

Thanks for that link.  Now I got some idea about it. 

I think he is trying to rotate a diametrically bigger magnet with a smaller one which he calls as 'mirror'.   By doing so,  you will get greater torque at the center of bigger magnet due to mechanical advantage which is same as any gear, pulley or chain drive.

This setup may work only if  rotor and the 'mirror'  rotate with same speed thereby utilising the excess mechanical  advantage.  If the rotor and mirror rotate with different speeds  proportional to inverse ratio of their diameters,  then torque gained by bigger rotor will be lost in time  (it rotates with lesser speed) as in the case of any standard gear or pulley drive.

I think I have seen such a design before also in this forum :

http://www.overunity.com/11586/magnetic-motor-with-electromagnets-idea/msg303738/#msg303738 (http://www.overunity.com/11586/magnetic-motor-with-electromagnets-idea/msg303738/#msg303738)

The sketch given by ELEMAN in his thread   'HOW TO BUILD MAGNET MOTOR'  also resembles the same thing.

http://www.overunity.com/14042/how-to-build-a-magnet-motor/msg377802/#msg377802 (http://www.overunity.com/14042/how-to-build-a-magnet-motor/msg377802/#msg377802)

What ever he is trying to do, one thing is certain.. this forum (or any forum for that matter) will never see a OU blueprints!

If I was Stefan, I would simply make a rule... would go something like this "There is no tomorrow! you either have a working unit now with blueprints or you have nothing at all!"

This crap about... 'ohh its JUST around the corner'  .............. 'this time for suuuuuuure' .... 'no no it really is OU, trust me trust me'.... ITS ALL BS!!!!

YOU EITHER HAVE OU OR YOU DONT! whats the point of waiting for someone to release it?!

I am all for working on potential OU devices! sure.. THAT should be half the point of this website....

STRAIGHT down the middle.... 50% should be for working towards OU and the other 50% posts ACTUAL OU blueprints.... it is just down right WRONG to constanltly have this crap about its real but you have to wait... like WTF! WAIT? WAIT FOR WHAT?! DISAPOINTMENT?! if i wanted that... I would put a blind fold on and walk on to a busy highway.......... THAT is just as disapointing as all these freaking claims that never come true!
Title: Re: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
Post by: Newton II on November 28, 2013, 02:28:47 AM
e
.......... THAT is just as disapointing as all these freaking claims that never come true!


All the freaking claims may never come true.   But seeing these freeking claims and blue prints some genious may get a better idea,  improve it and make it work.  That's how science (knowledge) grows.  Refer Benjamin Franklin's famous reply "What use is a newborn baby?"

Growth of knowledge is like flow of river where old water is replaced by new water.  If water remains stagnant,  it becomes dirty and spreads diseases just like your rotten oil industries polluting the entire world and making life miserable by rising oil prices.

http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/sciurban.htm

Title: Re: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
Post by: Poit on November 28, 2013, 06:18:41 AM
no, you misunderstood me!

I am all for growth of ideas and potential ideas..... what I am VERY much agasint is these claims of a working unit...BUT you'll have to wait till X to see anything useful.... that isn't growth, it simply gives the entire OU community a bad name!
Title: Re: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
Post by: Poit on November 29, 2013, 04:41:31 AM
First, you still do not understand that the occurrence of processes of "OU" must "free" (hidden) power to appear.
Second, it can only take place according to the formula E = mC^2.
Do you have any idea at least in this respect, and transformation of magnetic particles into energy and vice versa?
Do you prefer like most politicians of the crap of things?
  :-*

it is irrelevant how I understand over unity to actually take place (i.e a working unit)... my problem is with scammers... because lets face it, thats what they are.

Forget about E = mC^2 and such... the following is the formula that should be banned from this forum, goes like this

1: An Individual claims he/she has a device that is over unity ............ but can't release anything useful until X date/time
2: Everyone jumps up and down for joy saying crap like "oh yes! finally, this time for sure, can't wait" etc etc
3: X date/time NEVER HAPPENS!
4: Everyone gets disappointed
5: repeat step 1

are you honestly endorsing this behaviour?! because if you don't then you are in agreeance with me!! and you finally understand where i am coming from
Title: Re: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
Post by: Poit on November 29, 2013, 11:53:36 AM
Oh Dear Lord!
But through 5 years everyone had a chance to come and investigate.
And even repeatedly asked to enter a zip to be able to send the package.
It was not so?

That (or any video) proves nothing. Your words proves nothing.

Until you have step by step guide to build a over unity device (OF ANY SORT) then you will have proven your case. Until then you have NOTHING!
Title: Re: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
Post by: vineet_kiran on December 01, 2013, 12:41:25 PM
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifqps5YSMCM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifqps5YSMCM)
 
 
Interesting expeiment but the driver has larger diameter than the rotor.
 
 
Title: Re: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
Post by: hartiberlin on December 05, 2013, 04:26:35 PM
I got an email from the son of Mr. Engel, that he is visiting his father this coming weekend
in Switzerland and will then email back with more info.

Regards, Stefan.
Title: Re: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
Post by: Poit on December 08, 2013, 09:01:51 AM
I got an email from the son of Mr. Engel, that he is visiting his father this coming weekend
in Switzerland and will then email back with more info.

Regards, Stefan.

I can't wait for the disappointment!

Any one want to take bets?

Option 1:
His father was too sick and there for couldn't provide "more info."  ODDS 1/1
Option 2:
The sons flight was canceled and there for couldn't provide "more info." ODDS 1/4
Option 3:
We don't hear back from Stefan about this and the thread slowly dies off ODDS 1/.1
Option 4:
His son really does visit his father and provides Stefan with ACTUAL blueprints for a working over unity device ODDS 1/10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 to the power of 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 x2
Option 5: ????
Title: Re: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
Post by: lumen on December 08, 2013, 11:46:08 PM
I can't wait for the disappointment!

Any one want to take bets?

Option 1:
His father was too sick and there for couldn't provide "more info."  ODDS 1/1
Option 2:
The sons flight was canceled and there for couldn't provide "more info." ODDS 1/4
Option 3:
We don't hear back from Stefan about this and the thread slowly dies off ODDS 1/.1
Option 4:
His son really does visit his father and provides Stefan with ACTUAL blueprints for a working over unity device ODDS 1/10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 to the power of 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 x2
Option 5: ??? ?

Why is there no wrap in this thread?

Poit,

You sound a bit frustrated. I always figured the impossible would take a bit longer.
When I heard the words "magnetic mirror" I started wondering what that could be and how would one build something that they might consider a magnetic mirror.
Then I did some tests on what I thought might be a mirror. I placed two large disk magnets (3" dia x .125 thk) face to face repelling, with a small gap between them.

I found that when two other magnets came together in repel with this mirror between them that they did not push apart as hard as usual and that the mirror magnets
were invisible to the two repelling magnets as they left the edge into full repel with each other. This was interesting since that already shows a method of gain!

But then I placed a very thin sheet of iron (.001") between the mirror magnets and found that the other repelling magnets now attracted to the mirror with great force.
In fact the attraction was greater than the attraction would have been directly to the thin iron without the mirror magnets.
Yet the thin iron is easily removed from between the mirror magnets because it is so thin and has little attraction.

Anyway just something to keep your mind from exploding as you wait if you can understand my explanation.



Title: Re: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
Post by: the_big_m_in_ok on December 10, 2013, 10:35:43 PM
Let's wait until BigM wakes up, we'll see what he says.
  :'(
       Okay, I'm here, as you requested.
Poit has a valid idea he made:
       NMO1968, you aren't giving us anything concrete, or definite.   Detailed plans?   WHERE?      ARE??       THEY??? 
       
Look, this reminds me on another thread I saw awhile ago.   A purely religious group, similar to the one run by Energetic Forum,
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/ (http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/)    "Presented     by     Energetic     Science     Ministries" ---  a    non    profit   organization


These guys do about the same thing as the neo-Nazis:   Talk a big game, but don't say anything without being paid first.   They and these Nazi schmucks are greedy, if anything.


Alright, now for my two cents---in general:
       How do you attract and control tachyons?
I postulated they can take a special mixture of compounds or elements and then use specially shaped    lenses/plates/baffles/grids/etc.    to impinge and then implode STANDING, NON_MOVING water and force a nuclear implosion to fuse O2 and two H atoms in water to make something like Ne (neon) with a loss of mass, just like an atom or hydrogen bomb works.
       Something like this?
A proton and an electron in a hydrogen atom might be fused into a neutron.    The other hydrogen atom, as well as the new neutron, are compressed to supercritical densities by the magnetic qualities of water, and these fuse with O(16), with 8 neutrons and 8 protons, to Ne(20) along with a loss of mass and a resulting appearance of energy, according to E = m C^2.

This takes brute power to fuze ordinary matter; not as easy as U-235.   It can still be done, because neutron stars in galaxies should be able to do it naturally.

The big question I have for NWO1968, and "Dr." (No)wak:  Is how?    You, NWO1968, already indicate I know "Much" about your process.   But I only know in general terms.   AND, I'm speculating.   Do you really think you have the courage or audacity to inform us all of the truth in simple terms?   Poit has it right.         AND    I    THINK     I    DO,    TOO:  You're playing games on a serious research forum with dedicated researchers, trying the best they can.

Well, what about it?   I'm "awake", now.   Got an answer?   Upload something.   The simple truth.   I dare you.

--Lee

P.S.
I'm primarily a theoretical researcher, but I'm not exactly stupid, either.   I do have a part-time job with a security clearance, but I'm never going to tell anyone what I should be silent about.   I just get pissed about lying, crazy crackpots like these and I'll always try and 'force their hand' with (possibly) a little help from someone who might know more than I do about sub-atomic physics.

Oh, BTW, the lack of line wrap, I believe, has also to do with the "size=78%" crap I had to delete by hand.   This stuff merely appears on its own.   I'd say someone is doing this off-site deliderately.   Who is that?   I give up.   He/She/They might be able to hide their IP location if this stuff they do goes on and they don't want a knock on their door from The Authorities.
 
Title: Re: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
Post by: the_big_m_in_ok on December 17, 2013, 11:09:40 PM
Get it from one of the servers here:

(snip intervening text...)

They all have free download possibilities, if you click the right links there and wait for the counter...

Sorry, can´t copy it here, as this is a newspaper article that has rigid copyright policies...
       Thank you Stephan/Stephen (from immediate memory, you know what I mean?)...
I wondered why you did your presentation that way and now I know---it was a copyrighted article.   Unfortunately, I can only borrow a computer at the local public library and they won't allow direct downloads to their computer's hard drives.   I DO actually have a thumb drive and a backup for that as well.

Can you find a more public means of describing what you've seen, compared to what exists on the Internet and upload that?   .PDF's, .JPG's, and PNG's are all okay.

Thanks in advance.

--Lee
Title: Re: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
Post by: infringer on December 19, 2013, 04:07:55 AM
Christmas present maybe?

heh it is super easy to get excited every time you see a new claim like this especially coming from Stephen but if he is wrong we must take into account that we are all bound to fail or pass false judgement at one point or another in our existence so please keep that in mind.

So Stephen believes it is real I am curious to see some more info or pics myself.

Have a good holiday everyone by the way.
Title: Re: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
Post by: Poit on December 25, 2013, 02:49:58 PM
oh what a surprise... this "breaking news" wasn't breaking at all... like we didn't see that coming
Title: Re: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
Post by: lancaIV on December 25, 2013, 03:02:25 PM
http://blog.hasslberger.com/2013/11/german_inventor_solves_permane.html
Title: Re: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
Post by: gauschor on December 25, 2013, 06:47:56 PM
oh what a surprise... this "breaking news" wasn't breaking at all... like we didn't see that coming

I couldn't have said it better.

>German Inventor solves permanent magnet motor puzzle - wants to 'give away' the discovery...

Then come on, give it to us. But until this happens I don't believe a word.
Title: Re: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
Post by: markdansie on December 30, 2013, 12:41:57 PM
Time to put this to bed, it was a measurement error.
Sorry but no cigar
Mark
Title: Re: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
Post by: hartiberlin on May 01, 2014, 12:00:59 AM
I was asked to post an update on this Thomas Engel Magnet story:

Steve Windisch asked on the Facebook free energy group:
Stefan Hartmann has there been any news you have heard? Last we heard was, his son owned a company and had one of the devices and was going to run some tests (or let some1 do so), or something to that effect.

My answer is, after having contacted them several times and also a colleague has tried to get them
to show it:

The problem is, that his son Oliver Engel  (see  http://www.engellabor.de/shop/page/18 (http://www.engellabor.de/shop/page/18)  ) and his friend Stefan Haenelt http://www.costa-maritim.de/wir/impressum.php (http://www.costa-maritim.de/wir/impressum.php)  a charter boat school owner, try to keep this technology under wraps and always excuse, that Mr. Thomas Engel is so ill..

The second machine is probably at the location of Mr. Haenelt in Wiesbaden, Germany, but who knows, if it is shown or not to anyone ??....

Sadly again an ego trip of  people with $ signs in their eyes ?? probably.. too bad they don´t follow the order of the late Mr. Thomas Engel, who wanted to give it away freely to the whole world and probably wanted to open source it...

So far my latest updates on this.

Regards, Stefan.
Title: Re: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
Post by: hartiberlin on May 01, 2014, 12:23:07 AM
Steve Windisch said: Thanks m8, appreciated 
So he died then since the newspaper report?

Stefan Hartmann replied : No, with late I meant old... I don´t know, if he is still living or not... Hi son Oliver always excused it and saying he is in too bad condition to speak with... but I just wanted only to speak and hear from people, who have seen the motor running or wanted to go visit the second motor in Wiesbaden.....but Mr. Haenelt was not at all interested to release any informations at all...

My last contact with them is already a few weeks back and the other colleague reporter, who tried to contact them 3 weeks ago also did not get any answers...
Title: Re: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on May 01, 2014, 04:54:31 AM
Steve Windisch said: Thanks m8, appreciated 
So he died then since the newspaper report?

Stefan Hartmann replied : No, with late I meant old... I don´t know, if he is still living or not... Hi son Oliver always excused it and saying he is in too bad condition to speak with... but I just wanted only to speak and hear from people, who have seen the motor running or wanted to go visit the second motor in Wiesbaden.....but Mr. Haenelt was not at all interested to release any informations at all...

My last contact with them is already a few weeks back and the other colleague reporter, who tried to contact them 3 weeks ago also did not get any answers...


@Stephan

In future approaches to holders of secrets, you may want to impress upon them that you are there on behalf of humanity and are seeking information which would end human suffering.

If you can help in that way you can remain anonymous or become the most highly regarded person everywhere you go.

Maybe then, they will feel guilty about non disclosure and decide to lend a helping hand...who nose ?

Hope this helps in some small measure.

Regards...

Title: Re: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
Post by: AquariuZ on May 02, 2014, 10:08:58 PM
Another disappointment. You know what?

We should form a OU-SWAT team to send over to these jokers.
Maybe a little water boarding will make them more cooperative?

Just kidding Stefan.

Title: Re: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
Post by: Poit on May 03, 2014, 05:59:33 AM
I apologize for been negative.... don't get me wrong, sounds fantastic! but honestly.... how many times does one need to be burnt?

I will stop here, but I will say one last thing.......................... i'll believe it when I can build it! and history unfortunatly dictates that this just wont happen.. some soppy story about how the only working prototype was destroyed, or someone got sick.. or ... (insert soppy excuse for not releasing the ACTUAL free energy device here!)

Hate me all you want... but deep down you know you will be let down (again!)

Poit

I rest my case
Title: Re: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
Post by: raburgeson on August 04, 2014, 03:46:06 AM
I don't want to build it, I want to buy a working motor, I have some work for it. I encourage progress by supporting the results. No matter how much better one is over the other, if it truely works buy one. I can't afford to give development money but, I can help in my little way to get production going by making a small order. Not patented? Doesn't matter, if it works, it works.
Title: Re: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
Post by: Liberty on August 04, 2014, 05:18:15 AM
I don't want to build it, I want to buy a working motor, I have some work for it. I encourage progress by supporting the results. No matter how much better one is over the other, if it truely works buy one. I can't afford to give development money but, I can help in my little way to get production going by making a small order. Not patented? Doesn't matter, if it works, it works.

I would imagine that a device like that won't be found off the shelf just yet. 

Liberty
Title: Re: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
Post by: DaSimplify on August 24, 2014, 07:01:41 AM
Please share to all: 
INDONESIA invent the "REAL FREE UNLIMITED ENERGY GENERATOR" 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jiEYMBHDiI 
 
Don't forget to share. 
 
This is the answer. 
Title: Re: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
Post by: energybat on November 28, 2014, 07:46:51 PM
Hi overunity
 
My Name is Energybat I have been in free energy for the past 50 years.
Please check out my website energybat.com I am about to get a new lab,
so i can finish up the bigger projects i am working on. ( new type of gen, water gen.... )

I want to enter the 1 watt contest , need the money for new lab.
Here is my Phone :# 610-999-8118 and e-Mail address: nt@energybat.com

This is my first post hope someone see's it, not shore were to post.

To All Thank You Energybat
Title: QMOGEN - community
Post by: linoavac on January 03, 2015, 03:20:27 AM
QMOGEN - community
I am the man of this work http://blog.hasslberger.com/2011/12/magnetic_vortex_-_experimental.html
MAGNETIC VORTEX PROOF.

I invite you to our community of QMOGEN (very recente, since last year) (filtered news, >600members)
https://plus.google.com/communities/113932584951030663517/stream/3e863c2d-3e9a-43ea-9c22-1d95ffa75419
Title: Re: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
Post by: FatBird on January 03, 2015, 11:29:03 PM
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Title: Re: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
Post by: raburgeson on January 26, 2015, 05:32:52 PM
Poit,

We have to do things more or less like Edison did them. There is a thousand ways to do something and every time you fail you know one more way not to do it. Every inventor hides something from the patent thinking he is going to protect his device. If you can't figure out what he hid then the only thing you can do is test every component of the circuit and try to figure out what is stopping the device from performing. We spend to much time building and not enough time testing. I do it as much or more than anyone. The thing is we have to hack at these. I'm still hacking away at Leedskalnin's motor if that is what it is. It might not be a motor. It may be the way he produced another type of energy to possibly move the stones of his castle. One thing is for sure 80% of this crap is crap. But, take a look at the circumstances of that 20%. Leedskalnin had some cash and he starved to death. What was he saving for that was so important possibly to build? There is something real out there somewhere and we are looking for it. Never take apart what you build and pull it out and look at it again now and then. Once you have the build time in it you can periodically hack at it with very little cash in the pocket. It is the only way we will crack the hydrogen car after the release of the patent. Something is hidden.Likely at his age with health problems he hid it for his heirs. That is if it is viable of course. That is something we have to determine.
Title: Re: QMOGEN - community
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Title: Re: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
Post by: Paul-R on February 06, 2015, 03:49:10 PM

There is a Peswiki article:

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Thomas_Engel%27s_Magnet_Motor
Title: Re: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
Post by: memoryman on February 06, 2015, 04:50:57 PM
A year old article without follow up...
Title: Re: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
Post by: ATOM1 on June 13, 2015, 02:36:01 AM
IT TRULY WORRIES ME THAT THE TALANT HERE NEED TO VIEW A FREE ENERGY TECHNOLOGY ???? Let alone a daft German one no disrespect to the inventor ..... I have a small government grant to build these generators in the UK but that money is way short of setting up a production line and one at a time is hard work..... Anyone interested in building a million watt one pump it to the grid and off sale the cheap electricity ten years in advance on the futures markets  ???? I hate getting down to boring details the last part is the land site ???

I want to build a centre of excellence for all things that make us tick flying saucers cellular regeneration facilities ET contact communication post ect ect .......................................................

I once had 300 staff it all got a bit to much so I gave it up and went into research I am 48 now what more can I say ........

Free energy that my friends is very simple indeed, but the mind set of many researchers of its all mine or I need to see it to believe it or there going to kill you or the cant be bothered  and the paranoid ones with a lot of the jealous envious ones and the liars cheats mind manipulators criminals are far more dodgy that the men in black hahahah ..

Now who is it here that said he can build anything ?????????????


Regards

ATOM1





 






 
   
Title: Re: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
Post by: PIH123 on June 13, 2015, 02:58:07 AM
Where to start ?

Quote
I hate getting down to boring details
followed immediately by
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I want to build a centre of excellence


and then further down
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or the cant be bothered
preceded by
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I once had 300 staff it all got a bit to much so I gave it up


And you forgot to say how much money it is you are seeking on top of that "real" government grant you have.
(since you are from the UK and very close to my age, you will be familiar with that phrase involving Jimmy Hill - "Chinny Reck-on"
see http://www.theguardian.com/notesandqueries/query/0,5753,-10720,00.html (http://www.theguardian.com/notesandqueries/query/0,5753,-10720,00.html) if you are curious)

And BTW, Larry Tseung is your guy when it comes to flying saucers.
He knows where they are already being "secretly" built.

Pete
Title: Re: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
Post by: ltseung888 on June 13, 2015, 12:13:06 PM
IT TRULY WORRIES ME THAT THE TALANT HERE NEED TO VIEW A FREE ENERGY TECHNOLOGY ???? Let alone a daft German one no disrespect to the inventor ..... I have a small government grant to build these generators in the UK but that money is way short of setting up a production line and one at a time is hard work..... Anyone interested in building a million watt one pump it to the grid and off sale the cheap electricity ten years in advance on the futures markets  ???? I hate getting down to boring details the last part is the land site ???

I want to build a centre of excellence for all things that make us tick flying saucers cellular regeneration facilities ET contact communication post ect ect .......................................................

I once had 300 staff it all got a bit to much so I gave it up and went into research I am 48 now what more can I say ........

Free energy that my friends is very simple indeed, but the mind set of many researchers of its all mine or I need to see it to believe it or there going to kill you or the cant be bothered  and the paranoid ones with a lot of the jealous envious ones and the liars cheats mind manipulators criminals are far more dodgy that the men in black hahahah ..

Now who is it here that said he can build anything ?????????????


Regards

ATOM1
 

http://overunity.com/1763/12-times-more-output-than-input-dual-mechanical-oscillation-system/msg452728/#msg452728

Check out reply 3354 3355.

May be UK can join the race.  USA and China may like another competitor.