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hartiberlin

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Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
« on: November 13, 2013, 10:50:31 PM »
Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor ! Thomas Engel has done it.
This is a motor that only needs 72 MilliWatts of input power but delivers huge torque shaft power
from Neodym magnets at its axis.

This is a German Newapaper arcticle about it and a friend did send me a link to it.
Get it here:

http://www.multiupload.nl/A1F1WW5GAW

This is a Multiupload to different File servers, but you only need to download from one of these servers,
best is the Multiupload server itsself as it does not contain so much advertisement.
The other server are only there, if the file gets deleted from one server...

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Re: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2013, 12:39:03 AM »
Hi Stefan,

What has been disclosed on the working principle?  Nothing yet? 

thanks,
Gyula

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Re: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2013, 02:47:03 AM »
It seems it has some kind of "mirror plate" with a permanent magnet on it between the stator and rotor
plate. This "mirror plate" has to be turned by a small electric motor which only uses 72 MilliWatts,
but at the shaft of the rotating main disc there is a real torque due to the strong Neodym magnets.
So you need much less power to turn this special "mirror plate",.....

but more was not revealed.

I will try to get in contact with the inventor directly by phone, if I can find him...

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2013, 03:42:53 AM »
Hey Stefan

Could you post the pdf here. My internet is restricted some, where anything with say MegaUplaod gets blocked. I just found out this was 1 of those restrictions trying to download it.

Mags

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Re: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2013, 03:57:53 AM »
The machine looks like a homopolar generator; what is the COP of the machine?


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Re: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2013, 05:27:47 PM »
Hey Stefan

Could you post the pdf here. My internet is restricted some, where anything with say MegaUplaod gets blocked. I just found out this was 1 of those restrictions trying to download it.

Mags
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Re: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2013, 06:31:14 PM »
I'm betting that this one is the real deal :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

                                     Yeeeeee Ha !


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Re: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2013, 07:28:12 PM »
The machine looks like a homopolar generator; what is the COP of the machine?
Homopolar motor (with magnets) have about 200 procents max COP. In low RPM it COP below 1.

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Re: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2013, 10:30:58 PM »
No Homopolar motor.

I found today his son and did send him an email.
Will see, if the son will reply.

As he has a big company too, I hope he is not too busy.

His secretary did not let me speak with him and also he was not in the office when I called.

Regards. Stefan.

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Re: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2013, 04:17:10 PM »
I had a telephone conversation today with his son.

The inverntor is already pretty old 86 year of age and
has not the best health condition.

His son will make contact with him and maybe I can also view
another 2nd motor that is in a German city located.
The 1st prototype is in Luzern Switzerland.

Thomas Engel is really a very famous inventor in the plastic industry
and made his money by inventing polyethylen production processes
and patenting them.
He has over 120 patents.

Here is a website with his bio:

http://www.thomas-engel.info/einleitung.htm

Here translated by automatic Google Translator:

http://translate.google.de/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thomas-engel.info%2FPDFs%2Fmit-28-mio.htm

I will keep you posted, when his son comes back with new infos.

Regards, Stefan.


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Re: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2013, 05:30:14 PM »
I hope that some people read the last sentences in the article about the motor:

"Engel will einen kleinen Generatoran die Welle hängen und damit zeigen, dass sein Motor mehr Strom liefert als die Steuerung braucht. Wenn ihm das gelänge, ware die Sensation perfekt."

Translation: "Engel (the inventor) wants to connect a small generator to the axle (of the motor) in order to demonstrate that the motor generates more electricity than the controller (which consumes 8 mA at 9 V = 81 mW) needs. The sensation would be perfect if he (the inventor) succeeded in doing that."

My conclusion: the most obvious test to show OU has not been done. And no attempt was made to quantify the output in any serious way.

Whatever that means, it shows an astonishing bad stile of the writer of the article and of the inventor. A well known inventor should be able to do the obvious test. And a serious journal should know how to do some serious measurements.

Greetings, Conrad

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Re: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2013, 12:51:57 PM »
Hi Folks,

I found a very good translation of the FULL German newspaper report on Mr Engel's permanent magnet motor, see this printer friendly link to it:

http://blog.hasslberger.com/2013/11/german_inventor_solves_permane-print.html


Stefan, any more news from his son or from the motor itself since then?

Thanks, Gyula

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Re: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2013, 12:52:51 PM »
double post sorry

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Re: Breaking News ! Finally a real Free Energy Magnet Motor !
« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2013, 01:06:31 PM »
I apologize for been negative.... don't get me wrong, sounds fantastic! but honestly.... how many times does one need to be burnt?

I will stop here, but I will say one last thing.......................... i'll believe it when I can build it! and history unfortunatly dictates that this just wont happen.. some soppy story about how the only working prototype was destroyed, or someone got sick.. or ... (insert soppy excuse for not releasing the ACTUAL free energy device here!)

Hate me all you want... but deep down you know you will be let down (again!)

Poit