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Author Topic: Work from two magnets > 19 % output  (Read 11935 times)

Offline Floor

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Re: Work from two magnets > 19 % output
« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2013, 09:06:50 PM »
Don't miss the drawings at the end of the last PDF file post, blank space at the end of the text, may make it appear to be the end of the file, before the drawings come into the readers view.

The experiment  / pdf files can be posted to any other forums a reader may wish to.

Also, please refrain from derogatory remarks etc. (if you can) even in the face of others poor judgement in this regard.

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Re: Work from two magnets > 19 % output
« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2013, 09:06:50 PM »

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Re: Work from two magnets > 19 % output
« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2013, 10:07:49 PM »
Well machineing shims to a tolerance of 1 micron is no great feat these day's. so if it came to the nitty gritty,it could be done-until you get a good temp change in the system-then all bets are off.

I dont think a magnetic field is going to change much over 1 microm though,so near enough would be good enough lol.
When it comes to perminant magnet's,nothing would supprise me.
I have just built a coil that outputs DC only,regardles of the input.
By useing PM's in the right configuration,we get only a DC output,without rectifiers.

Fancy that- PM's as rectifiers.
Now thats pretty useful.
Sounds very interesting, could you give details  :)

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Re: Work from two magnets > 19 % output
« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2013, 09:23:24 PM »

              1,600 views of this current posting + 8,796 views of the original posting, but I am still looking for error checking and feed back from a reviewer.  Is any reader, considering doing a check of the work ?



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Re: Work from two magnets > 19 % output
« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2013, 09:23:24 PM »
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Re: Work from two magnets > 19 % output
« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2013, 04:10:37 PM »
Hey, TS... can't you tell the difference between an INCH and a MILLIMETER? I have micrometer calipers that measure to the tenthousandth of an INCH myself and I know how to use them. A ten-thousandth of a MILLIMETER is quite a bit smaller than that, since there are 25.4 millimeters to the inch.

"No exact significance was placed on the figure by anyone but you, TK."

Er... nope, someone put that exact figure into the PDF and, by implication, asked me to believe it. But I can't, without some evidence that the person citing the value can actually make measurements of magnet position to that precision and accuracy. Just a measurement thing... well, I can recall a  certain very expensive spacecraft that missed its target, Mars, completely because of a "measurement thing". Measurements and accuracy are important, and false precision is just that: false.

And I learn something every day. Don't you? Good grief, what if Overunity actually needs 22.4283 mm spacing instead of 22.4282 mm?


For the sake of the argument  lets just say we can vary the field strength on either or both magnets with a wire coil and a little juice and that will bring the desired fields into play.  This variance is already done in actual circuits so let's just conceed it and move on to the next situation.

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Re: Work from two magnets > 19 % output
« Reply #19 on: December 07, 2013, 01:53:30 AM »
After considering the coil arrangement,  why not instead wrap the center of a bar magnet and place it between the magnets.  Then vary the N field (zero magnetic field supposedly) positive and/or negative to bump the two side magnets.  Sure would seem easier than constantly keeping tabs on the variance of the setup proposed.  You could find a voltage/ac or dc and a frequency (kinda be like a Floyd Sweet basis), you could measure output with your magnet rectifier to find  (and I like this) the SWEET spot.
   


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Re: Work from two magnets > 19 % output
« Reply #19 on: December 07, 2013, 01:53:30 AM »
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Offline Floor

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Re: Work from two magnets > 19 % output
« Reply #20 on: February 16, 2014, 06:27:43 PM »
I finally got around to writing a little program to calculate graph areas,  and used it to recalc. the areas of the input and output
strokes from the measurement sets.  The value of the "total gain" calc. came out as 19.193 % of the input as opposed to the
original figure of 19.131%

(The original area calcs. were arrived at by hand counting and estimating tiny graph squares/fragments  duh !).

Over all 'm, I'm fairly well pleased to find the accuracy of my original area estimations were so close,  (only 0.062% off ! ).

Please find the 2 attached files "SLBIG.PDF" and "ROBIG.PDF."  They contain  outputs from the graphing program I wrote.
The "beta program" doesn't do the graphics yet, (only the calcs at this point).

I will be republishing  the latest versions of the  "Work from 2 magnets"  files when they are completed.  (soon ? )


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Re: Work from two magnets > 19 % output
« Reply #21 on: February 17, 2014, 06:39:30 PM »
I am starting a new title for this topic "Work from 2 magnets 2 > 19% output"

This stage of the project has been completed.

Yes I think the tests demonstrate a method of "Over Unity", what ever that means.

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Re: Work from two magnets > 19 % output
« Reply #21 on: February 17, 2014, 06:39:30 PM »
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