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penno64

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Hob's finding for lighting a 15w bulb
« on: November 06, 2013, 06:16:35 AM »
Hi all,
 
Can we have some discussion on Hob's latest findings?
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-HGbAr398Y
 
I can relate to this somewhat - when playing with Romero's setup, a 3400uf 200v cap could be filled
by the mere instantaneous connection from the coils wired in series. (wish I kept some build data).
 
Would like to hear TK's take on this one.
 
Regards, Penno

conradelektro

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Re: Hob's finding for lighting a 15w bulb
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2013, 09:02:03 AM »
I would very much like to understand what Hob is doing in his videos (the two videos which show his impressive Bedini motor with the 20 pick up coils),
but without a circuit diagram it remains a mystery.

Hob specified some components in the description of this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-HGbAr398Y , which helps, but still, one does not know how everything is connected.

It would also be useful to know the input power to his Bedini motor. Light output of a lamp is a very unreliable measurement method, the eye is specially sensitive to flashes (which are created by the spark gap at 150 Hz).

The ultimate experiment would be to rectify the output and to feed it back to the battery running the Bedini motor, but the battery should be replaced by a 10.000 µF electrolytic capacitor. One would then see how quickly the battery = capacitor runs down.

The good thing is that the "pick up coils + Tesla coil + spark gapt" are independent of the electronics and coils driving the motor. So, there are in fact two machines, a motor = "Bedini part" and a generator = "pick up coils + Tesla coil + spark gap".

Hob's experiment is interesting and I like it (great motor), but it remains a mystery without a clear circuit diagram.

Greetings, Conrad

penno64

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Re: Hob's finding for lighting a 15w bulb
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2013, 11:08:47 AM »
Hi Conrad,
 
Thanks for that.
 
During his previous videos, I think he does state that the 30 coils - 10 standard bedini, 20 in series generating.
 
He shows in the last video that if overloaded, the rpms drop then the arcing stops so if loaded too much it will slow.
 
I have no idea how much a 10 coiler takes to run.
 
Thanks again.
 
Regards, Penno

penno64

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Re: Hob's finding for lighting a 15w bulb
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2013, 11:26:25 AM »
Hi Conrad,
 
Also, if you have a few minutes to spare, watch this previous video of Hob's -
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwMMTK36I9g&feature=c4-overview&list=UUzCcbAI9x4ez4gCbmpZSxKA
 
Penno

e2matrix

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Re: Hob's finding for lighting a 15w bulb
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2013, 07:31:08 PM »

penno64

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Re: Hob's finding for lighting a 15w bulb
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2013, 06:11:05 AM »
Thanks for that e2, looks like a TRIPACITOR eh?
 
Regards, Penno

xee2

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Re: Hob's finding for lighting a 15w bulb
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2013, 10:05:38 AM »
Hi all,
 
Can we have some discussion on Hob's latest findings?
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-HGbAr398Y
 
I can relate to this somewhat - when playing with Romero's setup, a 3400uf 200v cap could be filled
by the mere instantaneous connection from the coils wired in series. (wish I kept some build data).
 
Would like to hear TK's take on this one.
 
Regards, Penno


Adding capacitor across spark gap causes increased current in spark (and decreased spark frequency). Perhaps that results in brighter bulb.




conradelektro

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Re: Hob's finding for lighting a 15w bulb
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2013, 12:04:37 PM »
I like Hob's motor, great build.

In order to have any idea about the efficiency of his "new system" one would have to compare it with a "conventional technology system" as depicted in the attached drawing.

The spark gap and the capacitors in the "new system" are a means to step down the "High Voltage/High Frequency" from the 20 generator coils to something useful for lighting the lamp. May be it is more efficient than a step down transformer?

Greetings, Conrad