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Re: My Tesla Coil.
« Reply #15 on: November 02, 2013, 11:30:43 PM »
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Re: My Tesla Coil.
« Reply #16 on: November 02, 2013, 11:32:21 PM »

triffid: the couple from AC-motor(frequency a) and generator also called AC alternator (frequency b) means also a transformer,frequency transformer  !
For example for changing the european 50Hz(nominal 3000RPM) netfrequency to the U.S. 60Hz(nominal3600RPM) electricity network !


mx1000: warnings related: smell it ,the warning,and take this (TM unimportant)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nine-volt_battery full recharged and close the cycle by your tongue ! Overdosis


               Reality enough ? Trying harder ? Lithium ? Higher Voltage ?


                    From real experience we will ever become wiser

Show us the audio(bio-phonons) and -video(bio-photons)  movie from the beginning to the end of this experience,approbation !


https://www.google.pt/search?q=schweppes+gesicht&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=cYV1UsiIHK-R7AaBj4DIAw&sqi=2&ved=0CCcQsAQ&biw=800&bih=418
f.e. Tonic water vulgo Tonikum vulgo Electrolyt or Ionizer(f.e.Red Bull ) :
                             accelerating or decelerating !?
                           
                            Nerve(s),Bloodplasma: influence ?!  Own/foreign sug-gestion ?
                       

Sincerely
              CdL

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Re: My Tesla Coil.
« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2013, 11:55:12 AM »
triffid: the couple from AC-motor(frequency a) and generator also called AC alternator (frequency b) means also a transformer,frequency transformer  !
For example for changing the european 50Hz(nominal 3000RPM) netfrequency to the U.S. 60Hz(nominal3600RPM) electricity network !


mx1000: warnings related: smell it ,the warning,and take this (TM unimportant)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nine-volt_battery full recharged and close the cycle by your tongue ! Overdosis


               Reality enough ? Trying harder ? Lithium ? Higher Voltage ?


                    From real experience we will ever become wiser

Show us the audio(bio-phonons) and -video(bio-photons)  movie from the beginning to the end of this experience,approbation !


https://www.google.pt/search?q=schweppes+gesicht&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=cYV1UsiIHK-R7AaBj4DIAw&sqi=2&ved=0CCcQsAQ&biw=800&bih=418
f.e. Tonic water vulgo Tonikum vulgo Electrolyt or Ionizer(f.e.Red Bull ) :
                             accelerating or decelerating !?
                           
                            Nerve(s),Bloodplasma: influence ?!  Own/foreign sug-gestion ?
                       

Sincerely
              CdL
Besides the danger that comes with high voltage, and/or current (which is the same as they are variables of each other so lets call its electrical power ?).
And a little sarcasm regarding the sweppes face, I ask you, whats you're point ?
I can't get anything more of you're message.
Are you a AI scripted bot ?  ???

Please give me a link to a transformer (trafo) that is fed with AC at one frequency and puts out AC at some other frequency.
I am still reading back in the PJK or PKJBook and chapters to support the thing about hertz^ then hertz down and volt gain.

Anyways found this also in Vladimir Utkin paper, which might be interesting, its about 'Inductance in an electrostatic field'.

I quote;

EXPLANATION
The primary coil in Tesla’s transformer is the
first plate of the capacitor. The secondary coil - is
the second plate of the capacitor.
When you charge a capacitor C from your source
of energy, you charge a wire of the primary coil
also.  As a result, a wire of the secondary coil is
charging also (as a return from ambient space).
 
In order to start the process, you have to remove
charge from the primary coil (by arranging a jump 
in potential in ambient space).  When this is done,
a huge displacement current occurs – as a result of
that potential jump.  Inductance catches this
magnetic flux, and you have energy amplification.
 
If this process is operating, then you generate a 
magnetic field in ambient space.

COMMENT:  The capacitance of the wire of the
primary coil is very low, and so it takes very little
energy to charge it, and a very short spark to
discharge it (without removing charge from the
capacitor C).

COMMENT: Notice that the spark gap must be connected to
the ground as, in my opinion, this is a very important feature of this process, but Mr Tesla did not show
grounding
.  Perhaps this needs to be a separate grounding point.
 
 
REMARK: In my opinion, this technology was also used in Gray’s device and in Smith’s devices and in both
cases the spark gap was connected to the ground.

As reading in above paper it basically says it activates ambient energy.
1.) Did you ever tried a flat coil, and if so what are the notable differences from you're experience ?
2.) You're tesla coil needs to be grounded, does it matter if its wall grounded (grounded from house ?)
2.a) If so, but works on wall socket's ground, what are the differences if any ? Can't read find/anything about it actually.
3.) I readed a part about tesla, I can qoute back if you want, about the tesla coil free running. (thats my conclusion I pull it out of it) when it sparks because it loses the 'energy' of the sparks and then loads the ions from the ground.
Is this true, or false ? Becaus if its true, you should have free energy catching the sparks ?
4.) Tesla is the founder of AC current, yet he later on went over into sharply DC currents. Isn't sharp DC current 'frequency' the same as AC ?

Yes I know this is a paper about flat coil, instead of the more 'common' Tesla coil.

I added a second diagram.
There in the diagram they use strong magnets at a fixed position which has as purpose the spark goes trough the magnetic field.
5.) The magnetic field is getting energy from the ZPE energy field, meaning (and according to the paper) that it should get a energy gain in the spark ?

Anyways link of interesting paper;
'The insights of Vladimir Utkin on accessing free-energy (last updated on 10th March 2012).'
http://www.free-energy-info.tuks.nl/VladimirUtkin.pdf

TinselKoala could you tell me what country you live ?
I am from the Netherlands personally (south).
If its drivable I might come by and see you're experiments/coils if you don't mind (I would pay for it if you want.).
 
Sincerely.

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Re: My Tesla Coil.
« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2013, 11:55:12 AM »
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Re: My Tesla Coil.
« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2013, 01:38:30 PM »
quoting:
In order to start the process, you have to remove charge from the primary coil (by arranging a jump  in  ! potential in ambient space).  When this is done, a huge displacement current occurs – as a result of that potential jump.  Inductance catches this magnetic flux, and you have energy amplification.

displacement current = Blindstrom/Verschiebungsstrom


 "a jump in potential" compared with  inrush current: Faktor 10X
              ( examples:epo.org : Kazumi Masaki)
    Motor- or Generator or transformator(trafo) -poles-quantity ?
                    E-Magnets on/off time duration ?






mx1000,                   not AI scripted bot
                  but a human " roboty " using human intelligence and
                                          creativity
                   (included observing dialects/tongues:spoken and written) :


                      Dutch/Deutsch    Netherlands :Niederlanden(pl.)
          Generalsstaaten(pl.) or Span.Niederlande(Flamen/Wallonen) : Alba(-rn) ?

                                   I use the me given tools


Sincerely
              CdL


 Sarcasm ?
Read your answer triffids warnings related ! It is your health and your life.


Bio-phonons and -photones related : Theta-waves (also Kazumi Masaki or fill google in) and complain
                           http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theta_rhythm


The function of the hippocampal theta rhythm is not clearly understood. Green and Arduini, in the first major study of this phenomenon, noted that hippocampal theta usually occurs together with desynchronized EEG in the neocortex, and proposed that it is related to arousal. Vanderwolf and his colleagues, noting the strong relationship between theta and motor behavior, have argued that it is related to sensorimotor processing. Another school, led by John O'Keefe, have suggested that theta is part of the mechanism animals use to keep track of their location within the environment. The most popular theories, however, link the theta rhythm to mechanisms of learning and memory.(Hasselmo, 2005)[/size]
Cortical theta rhythms observed in human scalp EEG are a different phenomenon, with no clear relationship to the hippocampus. In human EEG studies, the term theta refers to frequency components in the 4–7 Hz range, regardless of their source. Cortical theta is observed frequently in young children. In older children and adults, it tends to appear during drowsy, meditative, or sleeping states, but not during the deepest stages of sleep. Several types of brain pathology can give rise to abnormally strong or persistent cortical theta waves[/size]

+ 2 open seals from the iglesia universalis : algebra and geometria for coordination in abstract and concret manner


manner spoken and written related:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrEvd1QhD3M

                              vulgar(patricial) phonetics:
Da maine(meine) ik(ich) als Maenneken(Maennchen) ainfach(einfach) nuhr(nur) naequiche(neckisch):
Piss druever !(keine direkte Uebersetzung,da vulgar ,sondern( sittengerecht :-[ )
 Ueber diese Kritik bin ich erhaben ! :P ::) ;D 

Die Rewengae(Revenge/Revanche/der Ausgleich) kumt(kommt) noh(noch),Vrauchaen(Frauchen) !
Freie Uebersetzung,pseudo-klerikal: Es wird kommen, der gerechte Tag ! ;)


Gedankliche Dialektik mit materieller Dialektik verbinden.
(a.Hannoveranisches /b.Hannoverisches "spitzen Stein"- Hochlaendisch mal beiseite gelegt, oder nach der Beziehungsweise "Etikette" gemaess angepasst! )


http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konrad_Duden Holla(e)ndisch=Niederdeutsch

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Re: My Tesla Coil.
« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2013, 03:56:44 PM »
triffid: the couple from AC-motor(frequency a) and generator also called AC alternator (frequency b) means also a transformer,frequency transformer  !
For example for changing the european 50Hz(nominal 3000RPM) netfrequency to the U.S. 60Hz(nominal3600RPM) electricity network !
(snip)

Sincerely
              CdL

This is not what is normally meant in English by the word "transformer".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformer

The input and output frequencies are the same.

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Re: My Tesla Coil.
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Re: My Tesla Coil.
« Reply #20 on: November 05, 2013, 04:37:37 PM »
It does not interest the expression !
It does not interest where or from whom this has been at the first time terminated !   The functionality from the used and for the wished final issue constructed material makes the target !                             


               In future you does not need such languages with all their faults
cause brain language is much easier : from neuro-synapses to wi-hi-fi electrodes-outer the body !           Theta-waves in and out !                                         
                                                                                                     
Brain scan(4D geometrical  Holograph/Polygraph/EEG) to C.N.C. to C.A.D. to C.I.M. !   
                    (Hologram) Gedanken sind (Nano-)Dinge


I am behind the search for free Energy and resolving the next steps -
printing/sputting the e-generating and e-consuming machines.
 
Sincerely
              CdL           

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Re: My Tesla Coil.
« Reply #21 on: November 05, 2013, 05:17:46 PM »
Besides the danger that comes with high voltage, and/or current (which is the same as they are variables of each other so lets call its electrical power ?).
Voltage and current are _not the same_. I would not call them "variables of each other". High voltage alone is not dangerous, it is high current that is dangerous. Voltage is "charge pressure", it comes from packing lots and lots of the same polarity charges together in a conductor or on a non-conducting surface. Current is the time rate of the flow of charge past your measurement point. Voltage is always relative to some reference. Voltage can exist without current flow (static electricity, charged capacitors, etc) and current cannot flow unless there is a voltage difference between the endpoints of the flow. This is why people can crawl along very high voltage power lines to clean and repair them without dying: they are at the same voltage as the lines they are repairing and there is no current flowing through their bodies to a place of lower voltage.
Yes, Power is "voltage x current" in DC systems and this is also true at the instant of measurement in AC systems. Ohm's Law is a _definition_ of units of voltage, current, resistance and power in terms of each other. This does not mean that they are "variables of each other". Voltage is the ability to push charge through a resistance.
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And a little sarcasm regarding the sweppes face, I ask you, whats you're point ?
I can't get anything more of you're message.
Are you a AI scripted bot ?  ???
I am still reading back in the PJK or PKJBook and chapters to support the thing about hertz^ then hertz down and volt gain.

Anyways found this also in Vladimir Utkin paper, which might be interesting, its about 'Inductance in an electrostatic field'.

I quote;

EXPLANATION
The primary coil in Tesla’s transformer is the
first plate of the capacitor. The secondary coil - is
the second plate of the capacitor.
When you charge a capacitor C from your source
of energy, you charge a wire of the primary coil
also.  As a result, a wire of the secondary coil is
charging also (as a return from ambient space).
 
In order to start the process, you have to remove
charge from the primary coil (by arranging a jump 
in potential in ambient space).  When this is done,
a huge displacement current occurs – as a result of
that potential jump.  Inductance catches this
magnetic flux, and you have energy amplification.
 
If this process is operating, then you generate a 
magnetic field in ambient space.

COMMENT:  The capacitance of the wire of the
primary coil is very low, and so it takes very little
energy to charge it, and a very short spark to
discharge it (without removing charge from the
capacitor C).

COMMENT: Notice that the spark gap must be connected to
the ground as, in my opinion, this is a very important feature of this process, but Mr Tesla did not show
grounding
.  Perhaps this needs to be a separate grounding point.
 
 
REMARK: In my opinion, this technology was also used in Gray’s device and in Smith’s devices and in both
cases the spark gap was connected to the ground.

The above sounds like it was written by someone who is pushing his own theories, rather than those of Tesla or modern electrical science.
Of course Tesla showed connections to the Earth ground! Using the Earth ground was very important to Tesla. If you can find some _real_ information about the Wardencliffe and Colorado Springs installations you will see that much of the large apparatus was actually in a deep hole, below the ground surface, and was indeed connected to the Earth ground quite well.

The "Explanation" involving the capacitance between the primary winding and the rest of the coil is garbled and does not reflect Tesla's use of the increased capacitance between turns of a flat bifilar primary or secondary coil.

Voltage is not energy.

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As reading in above paper it basically says it activates ambient energy.
Yes, the paper says that, but that doesn't make it true.
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1.) Did you ever tried a flat coil, and if so what are the notable differences from you're experience ?
Yes, I've done several comparisons between flat coils that use the Tesla bifilar winding, and those that do not. The advantage is that less external capacitance need be added to the tank circuit. In Tesla's day, high voltage capacitors were expensive and large, so reducing the need for them was significant. Nowadays it's not so important. You will see many Tesla coil builders using flat primaries, even wound from ribbon instead of wire. This is done for several reasons, mostly. The loose magnetic coupling between the primary and secondary is necessary for the secondary to "ring" properly when the spark goes out in the primary circuit. The flat winding method keeps the top of the primary well away from the secondary and prevents "flashover" or an arc between the top of the primary coil and the secondary, whose voltage may already be very high even a few centimeters above the bottom. The flat conductors (ribbons) reduce the primary coil's self-inductance.
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2.) You're tesla coil needs to be grounded, does it matter if its wall grounded (grounded from house ?)
2.a) If so, but works on wall socket's ground, what are the differences if any ? Can't read find/anything about it actually.
The house mains ground may or may not be very good to use for RF/HV. Often it is not. I would not suggest using the mains ground wire to ground your TC. It will be much better if you drive a copper rod a meter or two into damp soil and connect your TC ground to that. Don't forget that everything you have plugged into the wall outlets will be connected to your TC if you use the mains ground. There can also be high currents in the ground lead of a Tesla coil and if the connections aren't up to the job you may have a fire hazard if you use the mains ground.
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3.) I readed a part about tesla, I can qoute back if you want, about the tesla coil free running. (thats my conclusion I pull it out of it) when it sparks because it loses the 'energy' of the sparks and then loads the ions from the ground.
Is this true, or false ? Becaus if its true, you should have free energy catching the sparks ?
Well, that is what we hope.
The secondary of the coil is like a bell. When the primary spark fires it is like striking the bell with a hammer. The bell needs the hammer to strike, and then withdraw. If you leave the hammer in contact with the bell, the hammer prevents the bell from ringing as well as it would from just the one sharp strike. It is in this sense that the TC secondary is "free running", actually free ringing. (This "ring-down" of the secondary coil is what you see in any inductive tank circuit, that causes the beautiful oscilloscope traces of an exponentially decaying AC oscillation.) The ringing of the TC secondary is caused by the fast cut-off of the spark in the primary tank circuit. Faraday's law of induction tells us that the voltage rise in a secondary is proportional to the rate of change of current in the primary, so the faster the rise and fall times of the primary oscillation, the greater the induced voltage in the secondary.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/7/6/f/76fc3106bd720cced7f6839eee696e6f.png) and the B is of course proportional to the current I in the primary.

The hope is that when this free ringing of the secondary happens, some power or energy from "outside" the system can be drawn in or "entrained" into the secondary's power. Tesla believed that the Earth ground-ionosphere cavity was a huge capacitor (it is) and that if power were injected into this huge capacitor at one point, it could then be drawn off anywhere else on the Earth without transmission losses. This has yet to be proven, and will take physically large and expensive apparatus to test fully: Colorado Springs, Wardenclyffe.

The main point is that in a spark-gap TC system, it is easier to control the shut-off or quenching of the primary spark to make a very fast change in the magnetic field of the primary, to attain the most voltage rise in the secondary. This is also part of why a true TC must have no saturable cores: any core other than air/vacuum will inevitably slow down the dB/dt and also reduce the maximum B that can be achieved due to core saturation.

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4.) Tesla is the founder of AC current, yet he later on went over into sharply DC currents. Isn't sharp DC current 'frequency' the same as AC ?

Tesla didn't invent alternating current, but he showed how to use it to drive motors, and especially showed how to use multiple AC phases to good advantage in motors and generators. In later years, as you say, he worked more with "disruptive discharge" systems that weren't strictly _alternating current_ because the flow of current didn't reverse, it simply rose and fell, but always flowed in the same direction. Hence DC.
Frequency is frequency, the time rate of something happening. Alternating Current means that the direction of charge flow at your measurement point actually reverses direction. Direct Current means it does not reverse direction. Direct Current can "alternate" in the strength of the current, falling to zero then rising to maximum. This is not alternating current, but can be used like AC in a transformer primary, because there is a changing magnetic field produced by the changing strength of the current. It need not reverse direction to produce transformer action, it only needs to change in magnitude. A current that goes from 0 to 10 amps positive only, makes the same change in total magnetic flux as a current that goes from -5 amps to +5 amps. The first is pulsed or oscillating DC, the second is AC. It seems that many electrical engineers are also confused about this distinction between oscillating DC, and true AC, perhaps because both will work in transformers. The output of the transformer's secondary will always be AC, though, even if the primary is driven by pulsed DC.

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Yes I know this is a paper about flat coil, instead of the more 'common' Tesla coil.

I added a second diagram.
There in the diagram they use strong magnets at a fixed position which has as purpose the spark goes trough the magnetic field.
5.) The magnetic field is getting energy from the ZPE energy field, meaning (and according to the paper) that it should get a energy gain in the spark ?
The magnetic field from magnets in a TC spark gap is there to more rapidly quench the spark, for the reason I cited above. Many people seem to think that there is something magical about the spark.... but solid-state Tesla coils with no spark gap at all work just fine, and nobody, to my knowledge, has ever shown an energy gain from sparking. Sometimes electrode material can burn and this may add energy to the spark, but it isn't coming from the "ZPE energy field" whatever that is.
Tesla spent a lot of time on spark gaps and many of his patents relate to spark gaps of different designs. His rotary mercury gaps are great, but expensive and complicated to build and use. All of the efforts in spark gap designs are to try to get the fastest and cleanest possible transitions (rise and fall times) of the current in the gap. My MOT-DC coil works as well as it does because I am blowing the spark out with a blast of compressed air.
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Anyways link of interesting paper;
'The insights of Vladimir Utkin on accessing free-energy (last updated on 10th March 2012).'
http://www.free-energy-info.tuks.nl/VladimirUtkin.pdf
When Utkin is powering his home from the free energy he "accesses" with his TC systems, please let me know right away.
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TinselKoala could you tell me what country you live ?
I am from the Netherlands personally (south).
If its drivable I might come by and see you're experiments/coils if you don't mind (I would pay for it if you want.).
 
Sincerely.
I live in Texas, USA. It's a long wet drive from the Netherlands.....

 ;)   (Need a cowboy hat for that smiley)

But I am sure you can find "coilers" much closer to you who can tell and show the same things as I am doing.

There is solid TC science, for example the work of the Corum brothers. There is also a lot of .... well, call it "speculative science" like that of Utkin, Dollard and others. The Corums' work can be repeated and verified and is soundly in line with physics, although it is pushing the boundaries of what we know for sure. The work of Utkin and other free-energy coilers is less so.
I do not believe that Tesla himself ever thought of "free energy". His famous quote of using the Wheelworks of Nature for our energy needs in the future is often misused. He believed that global lossless transmission of power could be achieved, and he believed that the needed power could be generated very efficiently, but he knew that it had to come from somewhere... and that there would always be a cost!

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Re: My Tesla Coil.
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Re: My Tesla Coil.
« Reply #22 on: November 05, 2013, 07:23:48 PM »
Voltage and current are _not the same_. I would not call them "variables of each other". High voltage alone is not dangerous, it is high current that is dangerous. Voltage is "charge pressure", it comes from packing lots and lots of the same polarity charges together in a conductor or on a non-conducting surface. Current is the time rate of the flow of charge past your measurement point. Voltage is always relative to some reference. Voltage can exist without current flow (static electricity, charged capacitors, etc) and current cannot flow unless there is a voltage difference between the endpoints of the flow. This is why people can crawl along very high voltage power lines to clean and repair them without dying: they are at the same voltage as the lines they are repairing and there is no current flowing through their bodies to a place of lower voltage.
Yes, Power is "voltage x current" in DC systems and this is also true at the instant of measurement in AC systems. Ohm's Law is a _definition_ of units of voltage, current, resistance and power in terms of each other. This does not mean that they are "variables of each other". Voltage is the ability to push charge through a resistance.
The above sounds like it was written by someone who is pushing his own theories, rather than those of Tesla or modern electrical science.
Of course Tesla showed connections to the Earth ground! Using the Earth ground was very important to Tesla. If you can find some _real_ information about the Wardencliffe and Colorado Springs installations you will see that much of the large apparatus was actually in a deep hole, below the ground surface, and was indeed connected to the Earth ground quite well.

The "Explanation" involving the capacitance between the primary winding and the rest of the coil is garbled and does not reflect Tesla's use of the increased capacitance between turns of a flat bifilar primary or secondary coil.

Voltage is not energy.
Yes, the paper says that, but that doesn't make it true.Yes, I've done several comparisons between flat coils that use the Tesla bifilar winding, and those that do not. The advantage is that less external capacitance need be added to the tank circuit. In Tesla's day, high voltage capacitors were expensive and large, so reducing the need for them was significant. Nowadays it's not so important. You will see many Tesla coil builders using flat primaries, even wound from ribbon instead of wire. This is done for several reasons, mostly. The loose magnetic coupling between the primary and secondary is necessary for the secondary to "ring" properly when the spark goes out in the primary circuit. The flat winding method keeps the top of the primary well away from the secondary and prevents "flashover" or an arc between the top of the primary coil and the secondary, whose voltage may already be very high even a few centimeters above the bottom. The flat conductors (ribbons) reduce the primary coil's self-inductance.The house mains ground may or may not be very good to use for RF/HV. Often it is not. I would not suggest using the mains ground wire to ground your TC. It will be much better if you drive a copper rod a meter or two into damp soil and connect your TC ground to that. Don't forget that everything you have plugged into the wall outlets will be connected to your TC if you use the mains ground. There can also be high currents in the ground lead of a Tesla coil and if the connections aren't up to the job you may have a fire hazard if you use the mains ground.Well, that is what we hope.
The secondary of the coil is like a bell. When the primary spark fires it is like striking the bell with a hammer. The bell needs the hammer to strike, and then withdraw. If you leave the hammer in contact with the bell, the hammer prevents the bell from ringing as well as it would from just the one sharp strike. It is in this sense that the TC secondary is "free running", actually free ringing. (This "ring-down" of the secondary coil is what you see in any inductive tank circuit, that causes the beautiful oscilloscope traces of an exponentially decaying AC oscillation.) The ringing of the TC secondary is caused by the fast cut-off of the spark in the primary tank circuit. Faraday's law of induction tells us that the voltage rise in a secondary is proportional to the rate of change of current in the primary, so the faster the rise and fall times of the primary oscillation, the greater the induced voltage in the secondary.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/7/6/f/76fc3106bd720cced7f6839eee696e6f.png) and the B is of course proportional to the current I in the primary.

The hope is that when this free ringing of the secondary happens, some power or energy from "outside" the system can be drawn in or "entrained" into the secondary's power. Tesla believed that the Earth ground-ionosphere cavity was a huge capacitor (it is) and that if power were injected into this huge capacitor at one point, it could then be drawn off anywhere else on the Earth without transmission losses. This has yet to be proven, and will take physically large and expensive apparatus to test fully: Colorado Springs, Wardenclyffe.

The main point is that in a spark-gap TC system, it is easier to control the shut-off or quenching of the primary spark to make a very fast change in the magnetic field of the primary, to attain the most voltage rise in the secondary. This is also part of why a true TC must have no saturable cores: any core other than air/vacuum will inevitably slow down the dB/dt and also reduce the maximum B that can be achieved due to core saturation.
Tesla didn't invent alternating current, but he showed how to use it to drive motors, and especially showed how to use multiple AC phases to good advantage in motors and generators. In later years, as you say, he worked more with "disruptive discharge" systems that weren't strictly _alternating current_ because the flow of current didn't reverse, it simply rose and fell, but always flowed in the same direction. Hence DC.
Frequency is frequency, the time rate of something happening. Alternating Current means that the direction of charge flow at your measurement point actually reverses direction. Direct Current means it does not reverse direction. Direct Current can "alternate" in the strength of the current, falling to zero then rising to maximum. This is not alternating current, but can be used like AC in a transformer primary, because there is a changing magnetic field produced by the changing strength of the current. It need not reverse direction to produce transformer action, it only needs to change in magnitude. A current that goes from 0 to 10 amps positive only, makes the same change in total magnetic flux as a current that goes from -5 amps to +5 amps. The first is pulsed or oscillating DC, the second is AC. It seems that many electrical engineers are also confused about this distinction between oscillating DC, and true AC, perhaps because both will work in transformers. The output of the transformer's secondary will always be AC, though, even if the primary is driven by pulsed DC.
The magnetic field from magnets in a TC spark gap is there to more rapidly quench the spark, for the reason I cited above. Many people seem to think that there is something magical about the spark.... but solid-state Tesla coils with no spark gap at all work just fine, and nobody, to my knowledge, has ever shown an energy gain from sparking. Sometimes electrode material can burn and this may add energy to the spark, but it isn't coming from the "ZPE energy field" whatever that is.
Tesla spent a lot of time on spark gaps and many of his patents relate to spark gaps of different designs. His rotary mercury gaps are great, but expensive and complicated to build and use. All of the efforts in spark gap designs are to try to get the fastest and cleanest possible transitions (rise and fall times) of the current in the gap. My MOT-DC coil works as well as it does because I am blowing the spark out with a blast of compressed air. When Utkin is powering his home from the free energy he "accesses" with his TC systems, please let me know right away.I live in Texas, USA. It's a long wet drive from the Netherlands.....

 ;)   (Need a cowboy hat for that smiley)

But I am sure you can find "coilers" much closer to you who can tell and show the same things as I am doing.

There is solid TC science, for example the work of the Corum brothers. There is also a lot of .... well, call it "speculative science" like that of Utkin, Dollard and others. The Corums' work can be repeated and verified and is soundly in line with physics, although it is pushing the boundaries of what we know for sure. The work of Utkin and other free-energy coilers is less so.
I do not believe that Tesla himself ever thought of "free energy". His famous quote of using the Wheelworks of Nature for our energy needs in the future is often misused. He believed that global lossless transmission of power could be achieved, and he believed that the needed power could be generated very efficiently, but he knew that it had to come from somewhere... and that there would always be a cost!

Thank you for you're constructive feedback.

"but it isn't coming from the "ZPE energy field" whatever that is"
You never heard/readed of the ZPE energy field ? (Zero Point Energy) ?

The term zero-point refers to zero degree's kelvin which therefore means this energy does exist in the absence of all heat.

Its basically energy which is, most likely, coming from a higher dimension.
Where its actually coming from isn't really mattering.*
A 4D or more, one we cannot see nor interpret with. I assume you know what a higher dimension is/means.
Like you play a 2D game, you can't see 3D objects in that particular game.

Anyways you have mini-black holes, which some call wormholes, who exit energy of our dimension.
There also is mini-white holes which, aka opposite of black holes, enter energy in our dimension.
This combined is called the quantum foam. The quantum foam fills, or is present in, all space.

The "mini holes" are total random, and thus chaos. Physic laws learn and tell us that no system can be created from chaos.
There is a invention which can create order in total chaos (in the quantum foam).
Its findable in Quest for zero point energy or Tapping the Zero-point energy, or moray b energy device.

Everything I read about ZPE devices/theories are talking about plasmoids, oscillations, coils, magnets, non-linear systems and vortexes.
Most important of this, after all is, the quantum mechanical zero point oscillations are real.

Books regarding ZPE;
Quest For Zero Point Energy.pdf
Zpower.pdf

Patens/papers regarding ZPE;
The Mead/Nachamkin patent for a device for converting Zero-Point Energy to electrical energy.
Zero-Point Energy tapping via the Rodin Torus Coil
A detailed examination of the physical properties of the Zero-Point Energy field
Techniques for extracting energy from the Zero-Point Energy Field

Video of demonstrating that ZPE energy exists;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T0d7o8X2-E

Other
A presentation of John's Zero-Point Energy system - highly recommended.


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« Reply #23 on: November 05, 2013, 07:59:46 PM »
Most of what you think you know about ZPE is wrong, and the links you give are to things that are written by people who are also wrong. Sorry... but that is the way it is.

For some real science about the ZPE and the possibility of using this energy, please see the work of Dr. Hal Puthoff and his colleagues. These are real, peer-reviewed, published scientific papers in real, mainstream physics journals and edited volumes of monographs.
http://earthtech.org/pubs/

My opinion of John Bedini is this: at one point he was a sincere researcher, if misguided. Then he transitioned into fraud. For him to be selling his systems as "free energy" in any way is simply wrong and fraudulent, and you will find that more and more people, even his former sycophants, are realizing this. Ask him for copies of his last six month's worth of electric power bills, and then ask him why he isn't using his battery systems to run his home. You will only get insults and the "sound of crickets chirping", you will not get any real evidence of "free energy" or perpetual battery charging.

Note that as Martin Grusenick's interferometer apparatus and technique improves, the results he gets are closer and closer to "zero" or null results.

http://www.earthtech.org/publications/fusion_facts.pdf

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« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2013, 08:14:48 PM »
Most of what you think you know about ZPE is wrong, and the links you give are to things that are written by people who are also wrong. Sorry... but that is the way it is.

For some real science about the ZPE and the possibility of using this energy, please see the work of Dr. Hal Puthoff and his colleagues. These are real, peer-reviewed, published scientific papers in real, mainstream physics journals and edited volumes of monographs.
http://earthtech.org/pubs/

My opinion of John Bedini is this: at one point he was a sincere researcher, if misguided. Then he transitioned into fraud. For him to be selling his systems as "free energy" in any way is simply wrong and fraudulent, and you will find that more and more people, even his former sycophants, are realizing this. Ask him for copies of his last six month's worth of electric power bills, and then ask him why he isn't using his battery systems to run his home. You will only get insults and the "sound of crickets chirping", you will not get any real evidence of "free energy" or perpetual battery charging.

Note that as Martin Grusenick's interferometer apparatus and technique improves, the results he gets are closer and closer to "zero" or null results.

http://www.earthtech.org/publications/fusion_facts.pdf
Would you mind telling me what is wrong ?

As for the quantum foam and mini-black holes I truly believe that's true.
And that's tested/verified as well gaining order in the chaos.

That was all I said, I only posted the external links for educational purposes.

Have you tried any 'free energy' system you're self ?
(Replication of) and if so which ones and what was you're experience with them ?
If you think John Bedini is a fraud, I am not claiming he isn't*, you think that Floyd Sweet is a fraudulent person as well Moray ?
Just asking you're opinion.

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Would you mind telling me what is wrong ?

Please read Puthoff's papers, then I'll be happy to discuss them with you. Meanwhile, Patrick Kelly, just like Jean-Louis Naudin, has so many "working" Free Energy devices in his list that one just has to wonder why he, too, is still powering his home and lab from conventional sources of energy like the national grid or the sun.
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As for the quantum foam and mini-black holes I truly believe that's true.
I believe it _could be _true, too.
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And that's tested/verified as well gaining order in the chaos.

I don't think so. Please give me a link to a "tested/verified" mini black hole.
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That was all I said, I only posted the external links for educational purposes.
 
I am not a newcomer to this field of research, and I prefer to get my "education" from published, peer-reviewed scientific articles and properly performed experiments.  But thanks anyway. None of the links you posted are "news" to me. I've had a copy of Kelly's book in my hard drives for years.
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Have you tried any 'free energy' system you're self ?
(Replication of) and if so which ones and what was you're experience with them ?
Have you? What was your experience?
https://www.youtube.com/user/TinselKoala
I worked for two professional laboratories investigating these kinds of claims from early 1999 through January 2011. Since then I've done my own work, on a zero-budget basis with the rudimentary "garage-sale" equipment that I own.
The second lab has been in existence for many years before that, has an essentially bottomless budget for research... and they have never been able to verify any claims of FE, OU, antigravity, etc. even when guided by the actual original claimants in their work. They are still trying, though, with several active projects that I can't tell you about due to NDAs I've signed.
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If you think John Bedini is a fraud, I am not claiming he isn't*, you think that Floyd Sweet is a fraudulent person as well Moray ?
Just asking you're opinion.

My opinion: Moray, yes.  Sweet, possibly. I think many researchers think at first they have something real, and become so invested in their ideas that they are immune to contrary evidence, and when their demonstrations start to fail or are unable to be verified, they may cheat... just a little.... to "stay in the game" as it were.  Because after all, they know they are right, so a little cheating to make things clear to the unwashed masses is OK. Isn't it?

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« Reply #26 on: November 05, 2013, 10:21:16 PM »
mx1000: read about "superconduction" !
Which kind of material is used ?
What and how is the "permanent superconduction" mutating work process ?


Boltzmann "black body" definition ? Maximum potential to Minimum potential -law !
                                                             up to the Entropie point

What means "metal" ? metal translated by classical means :glanze/brill
never elementar defined !
What is water ? An elementary half-metal amalgam !


Do you understand what kind of barriers has to be broken to go back and  then go
forward to the start point to do  the steps forward ?

How many different energy states do you know ?


Define yourself at first "energy" and all the energy states.


Seconds define "elements"(Chemie-Analyse Beschaffenheit,Eigenschaft,Wirkung)
mono-elementar/bi-elementar/polyelementar


The conditiong: heat/cold(up to 0°Kelvin= zero=0 movement point)
/pressure:ambiental up to total E-Vacuo-ation /velocity:
monopolar/bi-polar/polypolar.


Searching is easy but to take time to study and understand the given information give you the opportunity to have for the next decades something to do-
12 hours per day ,365,25 days !In several different languages !


Be happy, for the next decades no unemployment,but also no paid by monetary units but paid with knowledge and wisdom and sensitivity !
You will learn to read between the lines .



Sincerely
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« Reply #27 on: November 05, 2013, 10:48:26 PM »
Hi MX1000, Here is a research paper written by the Corum brothers on the Tesla coil, it is very good, I suggest read it a few times during the period you build your transformer.
http://www.teslatechnologyresearch.com/corum/

And here is a intro to transformer basics. Very good also, this will help explain the differences in the magnetic field properties and so forth, ect. Basic induction in transformers.
http://sound.westhost.com/xfmr.htm

I think it's important to understand that many people push theories for many reasons, only a few are unbiased.

Personally I do not take anything Utkin or any other theorist just says, to the best of my knowledge he cannot back up what he says and it can and has been shown that his theories are misleading, at least that is my opinion. Where are his demonstrations and measured over C.O.P. 1.0 devices ?

There are many claims made by many different people and nary a scrap of evidence to back it up.

Alternating current is a natural thing, Tesla invented ways to induce it and apply it. Again just my opinion.

Cheers


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« Reply #28 on: November 05, 2013, 11:23:47 PM »
Farmhand,
                  DC= laminar
       pulsed DC= ! DC/AC/DC/..... state controle ! inertia-stop and inertia-go moments
                  AC= turbulent


Acceptable ?


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« Reply #29 on: November 05, 2013, 11:49:42 PM »
Hi MX1000, Here is a research paper written by the Corum brothers on the Tesla coil, it is very good, I suggest read it a few times during the period you build your transformer.
http://www.teslatechnologyresearch.com/corum/

And here is a intro to transformer basics. Very good also, this will help explain the differences in the magnetic field properties and so forth, ect. Basic induction in transformers.
http://sound.westhost.com/xfmr.htm

I think it's important to understand that many people push theories for many reasons, only a few are unbiased.

Personally I do not take anything Utkin or any other theorist just says, to the best of my knowledge he cannot back up what he says and it can and has been shown that his theories are misleading, at least that is my opinion. Where are his demonstrations and measured over C.O.P. 1.0 devices ?

There are many claims made by many different people and nary a scrap of evidence to back it up.

Alternating current is a natural thing, Tesla invented ways to induce it and apply it. Again just my opinion.

Cheers
Thank you for you're response, a new face in my topic :).

I read the sites tomorrow you gave.
You built a Tesla Coil you're self ?

 

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