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Author Topic: Question about Alum based solutions  (Read 5974 times)

Offline 123456789

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Question about Alum based solutions
« on: October 28, 2013, 01:56:25 AM »
Hello hows everyone doing? My question is from what I seen of Alum based solutions according to videos, the batteries that were treated were lead based and are exposed to acid solutions so I'm wondering if I could get the same efficiency if I used non-lead based electrode plates that are never exposed to acid solutions instead? Because I was thinking of making interglated graphite electrode plates and using Alum as the solution

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Re: Question about Alum based solutions
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2013, 03:37:32 AM »
Hello hows everyone doing? My question is from what I seen of Alum based solutions according to videos, the batteries that were treated were lead based and are exposed to acid solutions so I'm wondering if I could get the same efficiency if I used non-lead based electrode plates that are never exposed to acid solutions instead? Because I was thinking of making interglated graphite electrode plates and using Alum as the solution


 Good and how are you?


 If you want a traditional sort of battery then yes use the lead+lead+alum battery design.
 If you are looking for a battery that you don't have to recharge then trying two different materials would be better. I used aluminum and graphite with the alum solution but I had to treat the aluminum with borax or washing soda as it is commonly called. Once the aluminum was treated and baked on then it did not even corrode in the least bit. This is due to the oxidation layer the borax helps to create.


 I have noticed that the more mass the materials have the better staying power of the created battery has before it needs a rest. But those batteries are low powered batteries and not like the car batteries with alum in them. IBpointless2 has even made a battery out of borax only in a motor cycle battery or something like that. He called it his clean battery and it had some quirks like not being able to recharge on a standard battery charger. It needed another battery to recharge it for some odd reason. It could be that this was due to impedance mismatch between the battery and charger. Not sure about that one.


 If you use another type of electrodes then try to make sure they can be oxidized as this creates a barrier for water and will extend the life of your plates.

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Re: Question about Alum based solutions
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2013, 12:52:59 PM »

1.step:N. 3: http://patent.ipexl.com/inventor/Pedro_Manuel_Brito_da_Silva_Correia_1.html
2.step: CSIRO ultrabattery solution: battery from plates + capacitor
3.step: search your own solution and work it out: create


Sincerely
              OCWdL