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Author Topic: Building a self looping "SMOT"  (Read 234793 times)

Offline norman6538

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Re: Building a self looping "SMOT"
« Reply #645 on: November 19, 2013, 01:43:04 PM »
Today is Nov 19th and I remember Elecar promised more after the 18th.
Is my memory correct?

Norman

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Re: Building a self looping "SMOT"
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Re: Building a self looping "SMOT"
« Reply #646 on: November 19, 2013, 03:38:48 PM »
"After the 18th" covers a lot of territory.

But think about it. How many times has someone on this forum promised to show you something "after" some date... and then never does? How many times has someone promised to "teach" you how to build some kind of overunity device... then fails to do so?


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Re: Building a self looping "SMOT"
« Reply #647 on: November 19, 2013, 05:12:34 PM »
"After the 18th" covers a lot of territory.

But think about it. How many times has someone on this forum promised to show you something "after" some date... and then never does? How many times has someone promised to "teach" you how to build some kind of overunity device... then fails to do so?

Lots ;D
And this will be one more for the list.

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Re: Building a self looping "SMOT"
« Reply #647 on: November 19, 2013, 05:12:34 PM »
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Re: Building a self looping "SMOT"
« Reply #648 on: November 19, 2013, 07:20:35 PM »
@webbly,


What do you have there? a v-gate with a Halbach Array??


Can you share what you found?
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figured it out


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Re: Building a self looping "SMOT"
« Reply #649 on: November 19, 2013, 10:37:54 PM »
@webbly1:


Hey, thanks for your constructive description. I appreciate seeing that round here  :)


Another question: is that a "metal" surface under your AHLE array? It looks similar to light gauge steel (ie roof flashing)?


Also, what orientation are your magnet poles facing?


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Re: Building a self looping "SMOT"
« Reply #649 on: November 19, 2013, 10:37:54 PM »
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Re: Building a self looping "SMOT"
« Reply #650 on: November 19, 2013, 11:26:04 PM »
@webbly1:


Thanks again for all the info you are sharing on this area. I hope you keep posting your research.


Unfortunately, I don't have ANYWHERE NEAR enough of the same size/shape of magnets to try this  :(


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Re: Building a self looping "SMOT"
« Reply #651 on: November 21, 2013, 01:46:00 PM »

Self looping SMOT!!!! 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBPPc_JAm6g


When magnets are kept below the track,  the ball will be attracted to the magnet with tremendous force increasing the friction  several folds between ball and track.  Will the ball move so freely as shown in the video?

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Re: Building a self looping "SMOT"
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Offline norman6538

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Re: Building a self looping "SMOT"
« Reply #652 on: November 21, 2013, 03:11:15 PM »
Self looping SMOT!!!! 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBPPc_JAm6g


When magnets are kept below the track,  the ball will be attracted to the magnet with tremendous force increasing the friction  several folds between ball and track.  Will the ball move so freely as shown in the video?

Since that was published back in 2010 my red flag raises. Why nothing done or heard of since then?

Where is Elecar?

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Re: Building a self looping "SMOT"
« Reply #653 on: November 21, 2013, 03:17:45 PM »
Self looping SMOT!!!! 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBPPc_JAm6g


When magnets are kept below the track,  the ball will be attracted to the magnet with tremendous force increasing the friction  several folds between ball and track.  Will the ball move so freely as shown in the video?


The only self looping going on here is the video, look closely when the ball reaches the 9.00 o' clock position, I am no video expert but that looks like a looping video ? and since elecar has not come back to defend himself over the same issue it now looks like he was making a false claim all along.

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Re: Building a self looping "SMOT"
« Reply #653 on: November 21, 2013, 03:17:45 PM »
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Offline Newton II

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Re: Building a self looping "SMOT"
« Reply #654 on: November 21, 2013, 04:20:55 PM »

It is definitely a fake video.

When ball moves on a track,  if its motion is underunity then it slows down its motion and stops at some point on the track after making few oscillations.  If its motion is overunity then its speed should go up after the completion of every cycle.  So after some times it cannot stay on the track.  It will simply fly off tangent out of the track at some point. 

People who make faulty claims and fake videos should atleast have some common sense.

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Re: Building a self looping "SMOT"
« Reply #655 on: November 21, 2013, 08:53:32 PM »
It is definitely a fake video.

When ball moves on a track,  if its motion is underunity then it slows down its motion and stops at some point on the track after making few oscillations.  If its motion is overunity then its speed should go up after the completion of every cycle.  So after some times it cannot stay on the track.  It will simply fly off tangent out of the track at some point. 

People who make faulty claims and fake videos should atleast have some common sense.
True that last part, but the first part is not entirely correct.
It is conceivable (in dreams) that the "free energy" coming in could equal the system's losses at some speed before the ball flies off the track, and then the ball will maintain a constant speed, or at least a constant loop time, around the track. You can check my latest video for an illustration of this. I'm putting in just the same amount of energy that is being dissipated in losses, so the ball reaches and maintains a constant loop time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CKf5dUBmIU
This apparatus, with some extra smoothing and levelling, now maintains a consistent loop time of under 2 seconds. I've seen loops of under 1.7 seconds and haven't yet had the ball fly off the track.

And in answer to "where's elecar"... he's posting garbled links in another thread to Yet Another Battery-Powered Free Energy Device. Not quite what he promised, is it?

ETA: The Tornzee video on the train track, _ad supported_ and comments disabled, is definitely fake, you can even see the splice point as the ball passes thru the 9 o'clock position. Forget the ball and watch the color of the purplish blot at top left.

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Re: Building a self looping "SMOT"
« Reply #655 on: November 21, 2013, 08:53:32 PM »
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Re: Building a self looping "SMOT"
« Reply #656 on: November 23, 2013, 01:43:36 AM »
The flash gun that goes off at 9:00 is nearly blinding.

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Re: Building a self looping "SMOT"
« Reply #657 on: November 23, 2013, 10:38:56 PM »
Oh please. 

Why be so obtuse?  Please tell us what you really mean...  In clear, concise, King's English.

Cheers,

M.

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Re: Building a self looping "SMOT"
« Reply #658 on: November 24, 2013, 04:18:31 AM »
Mondrasek:

My comments were related to something I posted before.  If you look at the clip and kind of let yourself go into a trance, you feel the "rhythm" of the clip.  You can even let your eyes go out of focus a touch.  Then you sense the rhythm, which is the repeated looping in the clip.  The intensity change in the white background at the discontinuity becomes more pronounced, and then you can psych yourself up to amplify the intensity jump in your mind, and that is the "flash."  Once you are aware of it you can't miss it.

In fact this is a very easy one to spot, most people will see it.  A quick glance at the YouTube comments showed that many also didn't see it.  It's when people do a really good job of making a near-seamless video loop is when it's possible to fool the majority of people.  That's when you have to really do the trance thing in order to spot it.

Then you can also look at the binary data in the video file itself and compare frames which came as a surprise to the gentleman with the marble-track style !SMOT.

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Re: Building a self looping "SMOT"
« Reply #659 on: November 24, 2013, 05:52:47 PM »
Oh please. 

Why be so obtuse?  Please tell us what you really mean...  In clear, concise, King's English.

Cheers,

M.

I believe MH is referring to the ad-enabled, comment disabled, video of the ball on the railroad track:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBPPc_JAm6g

As the ball passes through the 9-o'clock position, or thereabouts, you can see the splice point due to the color shift. MH calls this the "blinding flash" in the overall illumination and white balance; I notice it more by looking at the purplish blob on the top left of the frame area. It is very obvious once you stop looking at the "red herring" of the ball's motion.

Then he makes the point that a frame-by-frame analysis of the actual digital data, looking at the numbers instead of the image built from them, will reveal the looping due to exact repetition of strings of bits, just as LibreEnergia found for elecar's presumed spliced looping. (I still haven't seen that particular video myself.) A cleverer faker might take ten or twelve copies of the same loop, transcode them each into a different format, each with slightly different parameters, then smoothly join them with a non-linear video editor. This would probably alter the individual bit strings from loop to loop enough to stymie a simple digital analysis.

Even better would be to fake the ball looping itself, for example by making the track into a "railgun" (providing a tiny invisible gap so that it didn't really make a full closed circle) and letting the ball be the "projectile" accelerated by the current in the rails. Or tiny jets of compressed air beneath the track, etc. etc. A simple single EM system like my SNOT testbed would be revealed by a careful analysis of the ball's speed, as it slows everywhere but actually at the electromagnet where it accelerates abruptly. Or the camera could be rigidly mounted, fixed to the track platform itself, and the whole platform/camera system could be gently rocked back and forth by a tilted plate or lever arrangement on a slow motor. Or about a dozen other ways I can think of.

When confronted with videos like that, it's hard to do anything other than mock them.

 

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