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Author Topic: Building a self looping "SMOT"  (Read 296294 times)

TinselKoala

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Re: Building a self looping "SMOT"
« Reply #540 on: November 06, 2013, 11:10:47 PM »
My first post in this thread:

http://www.overunity.com/13879/building-a-self-looping-smot/msg373109/#msg373109

Elecar's immediate response:

http://www.overunity.com/13879/building-a-self-looping-smot/msg373114/#msg373114

QED.  I simply asked for a demonstration of the claims and indicated that without proof there is no reason to believe. "Screenshot or it didn't happen" is not an insult nor is it disrespectful, it is in fact a well-known internet meme.

"Whats up ? No elderly ladies to stalk and harass ?  Nothing to prove to you TK you know it all already."

Disrepectful or not? Dealing with the topic, the issues --- or not?



       

elecar

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Re: Building a self looping "SMOT"
« Reply #541 on: November 06, 2013, 11:17:41 PM »
Quote the proven moron

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But none of that has anything to do with my analysis of elecar's videos, does it?

How and why is my analysis of elecar's video not correct? How does elecar's video show anything new or different that SMOT builders have not already seen many times? How does elecar's video support his claims?

Elecar has now had many opportunities to deal with these issues, but it is so much easier to insult and denigrate me. I don't think there is anyone on this forum who has been more insulted than I have been, by various claimants (none of whom could prove their claims either) so elecar's little droppings don't disturb me at all. Let him prove his claims! He cannot.


OK Moron what do you want to know ?

How does my video show anything different ? Show me a video of a smot that loops even one time TK ? you can not because this is the first time you have seen it.

What you want is what I said right from the start I would not be showing yet, so outside of anything I have already stated what is it you want to know ?

elecar

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Re: Building a self looping "SMOT"
« Reply #542 on: November 06, 2013, 11:25:18 PM »
My first post in this thread:

http://www.overunity.com/13879/building-a-self-looping-smot/msg373109/#msg373109

Elecar's immediate response:

http://www.overunity.com/13879/building-a-self-looping-smot/msg373114/#msg373114

QED.  I simply asked for a demonstration of the claims and indicated that without proof there is no reason to believe. "Screenshot or it didn't happen" is not an insult nor is it disrespectful, it is in fact a well-known internet meme.

"Whats up ? No elderly ladies to stalk and harass ?  Nothing to prove to you TK you know it all already."

Disrepectful or not? Dealing with the topic, the issues --- or not?



     


Nice try Douche bag but how about explaining to readers why I would talk to you like that in the first place.


My respectful reply to Pirate


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Pirate, you are absolutely right, that guy Darren was extremely respectful and its a shame everyone else can not be.
Lots of complaining about video quality etc, when all I could see was people trying to do the best they could with the resources at hand.

It appears the fig3 scope shot was not replicated so those who claimed that would be the case have had their ego's stroked and been proven correct.

Still I doubt many of them can now return to being gentlemen.

Whether or not the ladies circuit works or not is beyond my basic education, but  I for one give her credit for her willingness to do a demo.

Those fancy educations may have cost many £s, $s, Yen etc but manners are free.



Now go visit the RA thread and see how Douche decided to talk to me after that.


LibreEnergia

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Re: Building a self looping "SMOT"
« Reply #543 on: November 06, 2013, 11:25:48 PM »

I have managed to get Normans track to loop 23 times, I did not get that on video but I have video of Normans track looping a dozen or so times.


In my opinion that is an outright lie.

If you'd actually self looped anything at all (one that shows an actual energy gain rather than the losses shown so far) then you'd have posted it as proof.  If you had such evidence it would be worthy of a Nobel prize.

elecar

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Re: Building a self looping "SMOT"
« Reply #544 on: November 06, 2013, 11:33:24 PM »
My first post in this thread:

http://www.overunity.com/13879/building-a-self-looping-smot/msg373109/#msg373109

Elecar's immediate response:

http://www.overunity.com/13879/building-a-self-looping-smot/msg373114/#msg373114

QED.  I simply asked for a demonstration of the claims and indicated that without proof there is no reason to believe. "Screenshot or it didn't happen" is not an insult nor is it disrespectful, it is in fact a well-known internet meme.

"Whats up ? No elderly ladies to stalk and harass ?  Nothing to prove to you TK you know it all already."

Disrepectful or not? Dealing with the topic, the issues --- or not?



     


Yes Douche that is your post, I read it and responded to you, is it not true that you like to stalk and harass old ladies ? Is it not true that you know it all already ?


Now here ya go Douche here is my first post, its real easy to find, but being as you are a moron I have taken the snippet from the first post on the first page. This is the second paragraph.

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My design (Patent Pending) approaches the problem in a different and unique way, which I hope some of you replicate independently.
I will start by saying I will not be showing my finished design for a while and if that is what you want to see please come back to this thread in the future when I will post a video of my unit.


Now Douche help me out here what part did you not understand ?

TinselKoala

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Re: Building a self looping "SMOT"
« Reply #545 on: November 06, 2013, 11:34:42 PM »
Quote the proven moron


OK Moron what do you want to know ?

How does my video show anything different ? Show me a video of a smot that loops even one time TK ? you can not because this is the first time you have seen it.
The only reason your ball goes as far as it does is because you provided TWO sources of energy to it: first you moved the ball to the left, storing MPE, and second you pushed it into the ramps with your fingers, as everyone but you can see very clearly in your own video. Certainly there are many SMOTs and smot type devices that will make a loop, or more than one, when they are PUSHED and when they use the stored energy that is put in when Mr. Hand positions the ball initially. But most of the researchers you find here are honest enough to avoid doing those obvious cheats, so none of theirs loop successfully. Yours didn't either... or it would have kept going. It went as far as it did because of your hands, no other reason.
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What you want is what I said right from the start I would not be showing yet, so outside of anything I have already stated what is it you want to know ?

You are making claims, and I want you to support them with evidence. But it is now clear to me and to everyone else that you will not, and it is clear to me and to some others that you cannot.

TinselKoala

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Re: Building a self looping "SMOT"
« Reply #546 on: November 06, 2013, 11:37:16 PM »

Yes Douche that is your post, I read it and responded to you, is it not true that you like to stalk and harass old ladies ? Is it not true that you know it all already ?
That's right, it is not true that I like to "stalk and harass old ladies" and it is not true that I "know it all already". You can provide no evidence for either of those claims of yours concerning me.

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Now here ya go Douche here is my first post, its real easy to find, but being as you are a moron I have taken the snippet from the first post on the first page. This is the second paragraph.


Now Douche help me out here what part did you not understand ?

There is nothing I don't understand about you and your false claims, that is for sure.

elecar

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Re: Building a self looping "SMOT"
« Reply #547 on: November 06, 2013, 11:37:38 PM »
In my opinion that is an outright lie.

If you'd actually self looped anything at all (one that shows an actual energy gain rather than the losses shown so far) then you'd have posted it as proof.  If you had such evidence it would be worthy of a Nobel prize.


PM me your email address and I will send you the video that will not load on this forum as it is to large. All I want you to do in return is come back and say you have received the video you have watched it and that you apologize for the statement above. Deal ?

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Re: Building a self looping "SMOT"
« Reply #548 on: November 06, 2013, 11:38:53 PM »
Quote from: elecar on Today at 11:03:52 PM

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No you should not take anyones word, you should expect evidence. But it does not have to be on your time table and it does not have to be asked for in a disrespectful manner does it ?

My timetable ?  Where have I suggested such a thing to you ?  Disrespectful you're the one associating me with a crack pipe ?
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But look at the responses, liar, con artist, scam. fraud. And I suppose I should just take that ? like I have said before I am always respectful to people, try and find one person I have been rude to who never started out by being rude or disrespectful to me. I am not weak like TKs minions I do what I want and I think for myself.
Claiming any kind of successful self looping device is what most of us are here for, but unfortunately not just on this forum but in history, it has been shown to be impossible (so far) you can hardly be surprised given that history that people will question what you claim.
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There I answered your questions now I have some for you, what do you think of TKs rudeness and disrespect he showed me in that thread ? Was I ever rude or disrespectful to him ? Should I just sit back and take his rudeness ?
I have seen nothing outrageous from TK and I feel your attitude towards him is down to your feelings you had before,on his treatment of Rosemary.

In my early post I made a reasonable suggestion on the subject of verification, this was based on your willingness to invite TK to examine your device, and I thought it was a reasonable suggestion that somebody else from the free energy community could take this opportunity, but for my suggestion you compare me to a crack addict.


TinselKoala

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Re: Building a self looping "SMOT"
« Reply #549 on: November 06, 2013, 11:39:38 PM »

Nice try Douche bag but how about explaining to readers why I would talk to you like that in the first place.
Because you are a lying asshole, that's why.

See, I can do it too. You are a false claimant, you will not provide evidence for your claims, and when you choose to insult me instead.... I resist the temptation to strike back, but I can indeed be goaded into the same kind of stupid insults that you seem to prefer.

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My respectful reply to Pirate




Now go visit the RA thread and see how Douche decided to talk to me after that.

elecar

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Re: Building a self looping "SMOT"
« Reply #550 on: November 06, 2013, 11:51:31 PM »
Because you are a lying asshole, that's why.

See, I can do it too. You are a false claimant, you will not provide evidence for your claims, and when you choose to insult me instead.... I resist the temptation to strike back, but I can indeed be goaded into the same kind of stupid insults that you seem to prefer.


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LibreEnergia

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Re: Building a self looping "SMOT"
« Reply #551 on: November 07, 2013, 12:16:38 AM »

PM me your email address and I will send you the video that will not load on this forum as it is to large. All I want you to do in return is come back and say you have received the video you have watched it and that you apologize for the statement above. Deal ?

If you send it I shall certainly watch it. Whether or not I would apologize would depend entirely on the content of the video.

If it shows what you claim, then forget negotiating with your current toy manufacturer, I would offer a far more lucrative proposition.


 

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Re: Building a self looping "SMOT"
« Reply #552 on: November 07, 2013, 12:38:27 AM »
Hi Elecar,
Could I come to see your working SMOT in place of TK, I would be quite happy to do that as I live in the UK?
I can get mine to loop twice, but that's as good as it gets so far.


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Re: Building a self looping "SMOT"
« Reply #553 on: November 07, 2013, 01:07:48 AM »

Hi Bill yes I am still around, I have posted the retake video for you and Gyula. I hope it shows clearly that I did not push the ball which lets face it was the general accusation.
None of the videos have been taken down Bill. Which do you require a link to ?
The video that I was referring to is the one you posted on page 2 of this topic. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--3rugO_RMg&feature=youtu.beThanks for the new video.. can you please explain what you think is happening as the ball goes around the loops back?.Bill

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Re: Building a self looping "SMOT"
« Reply #554 on: November 07, 2013, 01:16:44 AM »
The video that I was referring to is the one you posted on page 2 of this topic. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--3rugO_RMg&feature=youtu.beThanks for the new video.. can you please explain what you think is happening as the ball goes around the loops back?.Bill


Hi Bill

Test video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSXhQOrE6dc&feature=youtu.be

Normans track video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHXTFfnon6g&feature=youtu.be


I do not understand the question ? I put a video up and was asked to redo it, that's what I did. The ball travels down the ramp round the bend and into the center of the magnet array even though my previous videos have shown I did not "FLICK" the ball that is the new accusation. I could care less whether I am believed or not but I did not flick the ball the ball was pulled to the side of the ramp where the magnets are.