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Author Topic: Building a self looping "SMOT"  (Read 296272 times)

elecar

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Re: Building a self looping "SMOT"
« Reply #525 on: November 06, 2013, 06:46:52 PM »

You seem more interested in having a conflict with TK then getting your device verified, does your offer extend to the likes of Sterling Alan or Mark Dansie, who are more likely to take your offer seriously ?


You make me laugh powercat, "You seem more interested in having a conflict with TK then getting your device verified"  no I am not interested in a conflict with TK. I called him out and refused the offer, ask yourself why ?

Also take a look at post 538 and 539  you will see that TK who finds it his place to copy my posts and videos (which by the way I have never removed or altered) under the guise of "PRESERVATION"
He has altered that post he made, he does it all the time I have seen him do it several times, but I had already quoted his post and now it has been adjusted.

Do you agree it would be better to clearly state that you have altered a post even if it simply reads EDIT:  ?

So he saves my posts for "preservation" in case I should alter or remove them (which I have stated clearly I can not do). And there he is altering posts. What a joke, this really does show that his accusations are based on his own actions rather than those of anyone else.

TinselKoala

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Re: Building a self looping "SMOT"
« Reply #526 on: November 06, 2013, 07:09:04 PM »
The truth is that Stefan has fairly recently restricted the ability of _anyone_ to edit posts to a certain time limit after the initial posting, since Rosemary Ainslie was well-known for going back days and weeks later and altering the meanings of her posts.
I may add information or correct typos, but you cannot show that I have ever altered the meanings of any of my posts.

Certainly there are people in England who can examine elecar's claims. But he knows, from examining previous posts of mine, that I will not travel at the whim of claimants who cannot provide evidence beforehand, so his "offer" is made with perfect security in the knowledge that I will not accept.

Yes, both Sterling Allen and Mark Dansie have been known to travel all over the world to see the devices from various claimants. I'll gladly accept their reports.

The still frames from the video clearly show what I have stated: the ball is pulled back to the left, storing energy in the system, and it is released with a flick of the fingers to the right, adding even more energy into the system. The evidence for my "claims" is right there in the video and the still frames I have extracted. You can see the position of the fingers very clearly in the still frames and if you play the video in slow motion anyone can see for themselves that what I say is the truth.

elecar

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Re: Building a self looping "SMOT"
« Reply #527 on: November 06, 2013, 07:23:48 PM »
Like I said TK and you have just admitted you alter posts, why can you not clearly state that with the word EDIT ?

I can not show where you have edited your posts because I do not make it a habit of stalking people or copying their posts, but I do note when they have been altered and I have seen you do it many times. Both adding and taking away comments. You have pretty much admitted that anyway.

And so now you claim that you know the admin restricted peoples ability to adjust, edit, modify, remove posts.

So for the record or at least so I might understand, why do you find it necessary to repost my posts and videos given that you are aware that I can do nothing with them ?  I say it has nothing to do with "preservation" it is merely for your own gratification and to detract from the subject.

Prove me wrong by giving a plausible explanation as to why you do it ?
 

powercat

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Re: Building a self looping "SMOT"
« Reply #528 on: November 06, 2013, 08:27:58 PM »
The offer only stands for TK and on the condition that he does as I requested. Which he wont because he could not live without being able to bully and harass people on here.

I have signed a NDA, I was willing to take the gamble of allowing TK to come and try and pull my work apart. Simply because I have that much hate for him.

Both Sterling Allan and Mark Dansie have signed NDA's in the past to make an inventor feel secure, all they would be doing is verifying that what you have said about your device is true or not.

It's ridiculous that in the name of hate you would allow someone to look at your device, but no logical reason why you wouldn't allow verification by somebody that understands and believes in these kind of devices, it would seem you're only prepared to invite people that you know won't come.

JouleSeeker

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Re: Building a self looping "SMOT"
« Reply #529 on: November 06, 2013, 08:53:30 PM »
  Welcome back, Elecar, and thanks for the vid.   I look forward to seeing more after Nov 18th.  It's nice to see someone getting to this level EXPERIMENTALLY.

Fellas, I vote for more experiments and less hot air...

elecar

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Re: Building a self looping "SMOT"
« Reply #530 on: November 06, 2013, 09:27:58 PM »
Both Sterling Allan and Mark Dansie have signed NDA's in the past to make an inventor feel secure, all they would be doing is verifying that what you have said about your device is true or not.

It's ridiculous that in the name of hate you would allow someone to look at your device, but no logical reason why you wouldn't allow verification by somebody that understands and believes in these kind of devices, it would seem you're only prepared to invite people that you know won't come.

I take it the Mark Dansie you talk of is the same one who joined TK in his attacks on the elderly lady ?  And I would give him a scoop for his website ? Yeah ok step away from the crack pipe powercat. 

profitis

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Re: Building a self looping "SMOT"
« Reply #531 on: November 06, 2013, 09:38:14 PM »
no no @elecar.markdansie didnt attak ainslie,in fact he gave her airtime on his website.gave her plenty space to show her stuff too.i would strongly suggest you giv hm a shout if you want a solid stamp of varification.if your smotball can make at least 3 circles then youve made history mate.

TinselKoala

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Re: Building a self looping "SMOT"
« Reply #532 on: November 06, 2013, 09:54:47 PM »
I note that nobody has chosen to dispute my analysis of the video with a contrary analysis of their own.

Here, let me help. Just fill in the blanks:

"TK, you are wrong about your frame-by-frame analysis because ________________________________ and here's the proof of that."

"TK, the frame that shows elecar's fingers well to the RIGHT of the release point doesn't actually show him "flicking" the ball along because ____________________________, and here's the proof of that."

"TK, you are a moron, because __________________________, and here's the proof that you fit the definition of that term."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moron_%28psychology%29

or even,
"TK, you are wrong about Ainslie because _______________________________ and here's the proof of that."

How about
"OK, TK, here's another video showing the ball coming back up to the exact release height, looping around more than once, and see how the initial release is done by a mechanical gate that moves strictly up and down and cannot impart any extra momentum to the ball."

You see, elecar, REASONABLE PEOPLE with real claims and real evidence would do something like those things. But of course you will not, because you cannot.



TinselKoala

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Re: Building a self looping "SMOT"
« Reply #533 on: November 06, 2013, 09:56:10 PM »
  Welcome back, Elecar, and thanks for the vid.   I look forward to seeing more after Nov 18th.  It's nice to see someone getting to this level EXPERIMENTALLY.

Fellas, I vote for more experiments and less hot air...
And I vote that you in particular should tell me why and how my analysis of elecar's video is not valid and true.

TinselKoala

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Re: Building a self looping "SMOT"
« Reply #534 on: November 06, 2013, 09:58:54 PM »
Elecar
There are some very trusted fellows that live in the UK and could View your demonstration?
 
Or We could take up a donation here to ship The koala to you.....?{I pledge 50.00 US}
Not sure about a round trip ticket tho.............
 
Sent a PM to you.
 
thx
Chet

Chet, why don't YOU go over and take a look? I'll gladly accept your report as factual.

elecar

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Re: Building a self looping "SMOT"
« Reply #535 on: November 06, 2013, 10:32:59 PM »
no no @elecar.markdansie didnt attak ainslie,in fact he gave her airtime on his website.gave her plenty space to show her stuff too.i would strongly suggest you giv hm a shout if you want a solid stamp of varification.if your smotball can make at least 3 circles then youve made history mate.

Hi profitis, you will note that immediately you made this post TK sprang to life posting several times. Let me try and get you to understand why he did that.
He knows that he was the one who started the bad feeling, it was actually on that RA thread which by the way was moved from where it was originally so I had to track it down.

Now please take a look at the thread  here   http://www.overunity.com/13538/rosemary-ainslie-circuit-demonstration-june-1-2013/135/#.UnqqVdisrDc

After you have read it come back and at least do me the courtesy of saying that your post was made in error.

Are these not Mark Dansies own words ?

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The best thing you can do with Rosemary is ignore her.
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If its any comfort I have upset her and she is not very happy with me.
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In reality telling Rosemary's story allowed many others to express their view like Magnetic man etc outside of of forum. I really struggled as I feel people like this should perhaps not be given publicity, but there again the stage is set for a demonstration. i just want a conclusion.
Have you ever heard the term give them enough rope
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Tk you do not have to convince me, I clearly stated that her claims were against my belief system, I agree with you, Mark E , Milehigh etc. However there has been an event where its going to be tested, and that should be the end of it.
I and many others have been banned from expressing our views on sites like Free Energy News, which really sucs, and I believe people should have the right to express their view (politely).

Politely, haha joke of the day ?

Then take a look at the posts numbered
481
483
489

Note how respectful I was when replying to someone on the thread.
Then note how TK was rude and disrespectful for no reason at all, also note that his minions over there are the same ones over here with their noses browned from having them stuck up his ass. Note also how they waited for him to come and start his crap on this thread before they grew the testicles to chime in with their own disrespect.

So you see Profitis I stick by my stance that Dansie was one of TKs sidekick minions being disrespectful to an elderly lady.

Now you are free to believe what you want but I have furnished you with the evidence. (Better hurry and check it out before TK edits it)

TK is a rude moron, the evidence he asked for in one of his previous posts can be found at the link I have provided.





powercat

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Re: Building a self looping "SMOT"
« Reply #536 on: November 06, 2013, 10:40:46 PM »
I take it the Mark Dansie you talk of is the same one who joined TK in his attacks on the elderly lady ?  And I would give him a scoop for his website ? Yeah ok step away from the crack pipe powercat.

You seem to be determined to find excuses about providing proof and now verification, your latest one makes me laugh in over 10 years that "Rosemary the little fragile whiter than white elderly lady" that you talk about has been claiming over unity, no one has successfully replicated her claim nor has she had it verified by anyone credible,  she has been shown to be a liar and not just by TK, are you implying that elderly people are incapable of deception ?  or are you suggesting we should just take people at their word without evidence for verification ?

And before you answer by saying TK was bullying and harassing, that was definitely a two way street and Rosemary is well known for attacking anyone that disagreed with her claims, you only have to read the numerous threads to know that.

Your comment about me and a crack pipe is just the sort of thing that Rosemary would say if you questioned her, it would appear you're taking the same approach, let's hope yours is not a fraudulent claim like hers was.

I have just seen your above post Reply 555 and you are taking things out of context and twisting reality, the Rosemary saga was over 10 years and you have to read lots of threads to understand how deceitful she is and that she was the one attacking people first if they had any doubts about her capabilities.

Rosemary will not be making any comment in this thread as she is banned from this forum, she is also banned from other forms as she is the one that causes all the trouble not TK.

elecar

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Re: Building a self looping "SMOT"
« Reply #537 on: November 06, 2013, 10:48:39 PM »
Elecar,

I thought that the magnet was supposed to come up from the right side of your video,, like the last motion it makes,, and it looks like if the tube were not in the way it would at least of made it back to the gate area.

I understood your design to have the ramp in the middle be the exit ramp but in your video you release the ball down the other ramp.


Hi Webby, if you have followed the thread and read it you will know that the track in the tests was the one Norman designed. I have explained that Normans design did not allow for the ball to climb and then roll back and exit as he made the track "teardrop" meet at a point with no extension  of the ramp side track as in my design.
I made it clear I would not be showing mine yet but was happy to help others if I was able. And thats how I came to be working a track presented by another forum member. I believe the effect can be used with several different track designs. I have managed to get Normans track to loop 23 times, I did not get that on video but I have video of Normans track looping a dozen or so times.
I am now working on a design that uses an acrylic track. I shall post details of that here in the coming days/weeks as and when I have time.



elecar

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Re: Building a self looping "SMOT"
« Reply #538 on: November 06, 2013, 11:03:52 PM »
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are you implying that elderly people are incapable of deception ?

No I am not implying that, in fact to be clear I know TK is a master of electronics, I had very little doubt he was correct. But that does not mean RA was being deceptive (intentionally)


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or are you suggesting we should just take people at their word without evidence for verification ?

No you should not take anyones word, you should expect evidence. But it does not have to be on your time table and it does not have to be asked for in a disrespectful manner does it ?
Look at my own opening post I explained in the clearest way possible that I would not be showing my unit yet and if that is all you wanted to see to come back later.
But look at the responses, liar, con artist, scam. fraud. And I suppose I should just take that ? like I have said before I am always respectful to people, try and find one person I have been rude to who never started out by being rude or disrespectful to me.
I am not weak like TKs minions I do what I want and I think for myself.

There I answered your questions now I have some for you, what do you think of TKs rudeness and disrespect he showed me in that thread ? Was I ever rude or disrespectful to him ? Should I just sit back and take his rudeness ?

TinselKoala

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Re: Building a self looping "SMOT"
« Reply #539 on: November 06, 2013, 11:04:29 PM »
Ainslie lied many times, as I and others have documented over and over. Not only that, she actually FALSIFIED DATA and placed it into manuscripts that she tried to get published. Not only that, even after her falsifications were soundly exposed in her own attempts at demonstrations, she still has not withdrawn the copies of the "papers" that contain the falsifications. Her statement of "retraction" is really no such thing; she still makes her false claims without providing any real experimental support.

I don't care one whit what her gender is, how old she is or how "white" she is. She is a proven, many times over liar, and she has committed the cardinal sin of deliberately falsifying data and has even attempted to get that false data published.

Here you can see for yourself the falsified data, in her "official publication" still up on Rossi's vanity blog: (Specifically the Figure 3 scopeshot)
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/files/Experimental%20Evidence%20of%20a%20Breach%20of%20Unity.pdf
And her admission that the data is falsified:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1s9z620SFbA
And here is a clip showing that she even gets other people to lie for her:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLqM7FRMeZ4


But none of that has anything to do with my analysis of elecar's videos, does it?

How and why is my analysis of elecar's video not correct? How does elecar's video show anything new or different that SMOT builders have not already seen many times? How does elecar's video support his claims?

Elecar has now had many opportunities to deal with these issues, but it is so much easier to insult and denigrate me. I don't think there is anyone on this forum who has been more insulted than I have been, by various claimants (none of whom could prove their claims either) so elecar's little droppings don't disturb me at all. Let him prove his claims! He cannot.