Hi Norman, the magnets are at the side of the ramp. You can see the white nylon spacer standing upright that I am using to adjust the distance of the ramp from the track. I have a simple camera and no tripod so I will try and rig something that can get the full track and magnets in the shots.
If you recall my earlier test video, the magnets are the same arrangement.

Quote Libre 

'elecar' make have discovered a way to loop a SMOT a few times by giving the ball some gravitational potential energy to start with , but it will stop once friction bleeds that excess away. Interestingly this would probably work better without the magnet in place.

Quote TK

Exactly

Please watch the following video, and the tests as described below. Then either retract your statement or supply the evidence that you are correct.




When you watch the video you will see clips of 3 tests. please excuse the jerry rigged set up, that is all the C8 magnets I have left after building my prototype. I would have preferred to show test 3 on a longer length of ramp, but I do not have enough spare magnets and I do not have a longer piece of aluminum track as I butchered it all for the track. Test 3 does however show how the ball can reverse under gravity in the magnetic field.

My text from page 2 of this thread.

Test 1:  The ball being released from different positions on the track  2mm - 6mm higher than the lowest point. Note how the ball always makes it to the first 2 marks when rolling under gravity regardless of where it is released from even when traveling around "friction" bend.

Test 2: Magnets in place, this test is the same as test one but with the magnets positioned to draw the ball up the ramp. Note how it makes it all the way to the "hole" no matter where the ball is released from on the same section of track as shown in test 1 Also note the ball ends higher than it starts every time.

Test 3: Magnets in place but positioned to prevent the ball making it to the hole, Note the ball loses its forward momentum and reverses under gravity whilst in the magnetic field. It does this from any position as in test 1 and test 2.


My video from page 2 of this thread.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--3rugO_RMg&feature=youtu.be

Hi Powercat, respectfully you state the obvious, I mean if your give me this coming Saturdays 6 winning lotto numbers I will win the lotto !!

I stated right off the bat I would not be disclosing my working prototype, I am in the middle of doing a deal with someone who may be prepared to pay me for my design. Is it really that hard for people to understand ? Should my word that was given to that person be made worthless, just so I can prove to some random strangers that I am telling the truth ?

I state again clearly on record here, I will NOT be showing my unit to ANYONE until I am done with the business I am conducting.
If anyone only want to see my unit working, is it so hard to understand what I wrote in the opening post of this thread "please come back later"
But no, post after post of "show it"

Hi elecar,
note, I did used the word "obvious" In my original post.

There is a classic forum pattern emerging with the sceptics and the believers and as much as the believers try to get the skeptics to shut up, they so far have failed to produce a self looping model and that says it all,  I have lost count how many times on this forum claims are made for self running / self looping, and yet no actual evidence of a continuous running model is shown. 
@ all
I would love to see this device working so please don't start quoting theories at me just show the device working as claimed = self looping continuously.

Ruling out some unknown deception, which I see no evidence of, I would say there is no way to refute what you've stated here. The video shows the ball completing the loop.

Suggest watching the video again there is about a 1 inch gap between the start of the ball rolling and where it stops, most people would not consider that  "completing the loop"

If your (assumption) is right and I hope it is, there will be no problem for somebody to show a working model, self looping continuously, but so far that has not happened.

Suggest watching the video again there is about a 1 inch gap between the start of the ball rolling and where it stops, most people would not consider that  "completing the loop"

Hi Powercat, please be aware that I made it clear the test rig was not looping.

My response was to two of the forums "experts"

One said

" Interestingly this would probably work better without the magnet in place."

The other said

"exactly"

Tell me Powercat did the ball perform better with or without the magnets ? Go on go out on a limb, dare to say what they dont want you to.

Hi Happyfunball, I hope you do not mind me mentioning the video link that I sent you. As you saw in that video the ball did drop away from the middle of the magnet array and out of the gap that I widened and onto a track where it rolled away. In order to make that video I butchered the test track as you could see. I showed it to you purely to show that TK was absolutely wrong when he said it could not happen.
I had to use my finger to push the ball into the magnet array as I had butchered the track to show you that test. If I had posted that video I would have got nothing but abuse and an accusation that my "finger" did the work.

Please feel free to correct anything I have stated above.

I can not pretend to understand on a nano level why it works, sometimes things occur that turns traditional thinking on its head. Apparently there are two mammals that lay eggs.

I am working on using the effect on someone elses design, I am openly showing the results. I have 50mm of ground to make up and a height of 1.7mm, I am reasonably confident I will show that design also works with the effect and that it will loop, regardless, the skeptics will still find a reason as to why it is not as shown.