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Author Topic: (Poll) Chemtrails during federal government shutdown?  (Read 11145 times)

Offline gravityblock

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(Poll) Chemtrails during federal government shutdown?
« on: October 08, 2013, 05:07:28 PM »
I haven't noticed any chemtrails in my area since the federal government shutdown.

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Re: (Poll) Chemtrails during federal government shutdown?
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2013, 05:51:54 AM »
I haven't noticed any chemtrails in my area ever.

I have however seen plenty of persistent and spreading clouds seeded from high bypass turbofan engines when the weather conditions allow.

Offline Magluvin

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Re: (Poll) Chemtrails during federal government shutdown?
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2013, 07:06:29 AM »
I haven't noticed any chemtrails in my area since the federal government shutdown.

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Re: (Poll) Chemtrails during federal government shutdown?
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2013, 07:06:29 AM »
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Re: (Poll) Chemtrails during federal government shutdown?
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2013, 12:05:54 AM »
Hi folks, hi gravityblock, am seeing the same thing here so far.
Normally, when we have pure blue sky days, they are spraying at least a few chemtrails, have not seen any here since the so called "shutdown".
Lets hope this means more good things to come.
peace love light ;)

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Re: (Poll) Chemtrails during federal government shutdown?
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2013, 05:50:39 AM »
Same thing here in Kentucky, USA.  Now, last month, wow, they were really very active.  I did not used to believe in these things but, since I work outside, I have seen things over the past few years that defy any other explanation.

I am very familiar with aircraft and how they fly.  I know about contrails which is what I thought folks were seeing in these reports....you know...certain weather conditions, etc.  Then, my boss called me one day and told me to look up.  I did.  An aircraft (unknown) was flying at about 30,000 feet and was leaving a long trial behind it.  Then, the trail stopped for a while, and then started again.  Well, the conditions at that altitude did not change in that one area right?

Since then I have been convinced.

Great topic and poll idea.

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Re: (Poll) Chemtrails during federal government shutdown?
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Offline SeaMonkey

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Re: (Poll) Chemtrails during federal government shutdown?
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2013, 08:59:22 AM »
High altitude trails and manufactured "clouds" were
very intense two days ago just ahead of the
weather system which has moved in with rain.

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Re: (Poll) Chemtrails during federal government shutdown?
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2013, 10:44:11 PM »
Hi folks, update for today, it seems they are spraying chemtrails again, though as have noticed in the past, some unseen force seems to be dissipating them or neutralizing them.
One time, saw a chemtrail literally start to breakup like a dotted line and start to shrink, until it was totally gone, so something is countering the activities of these thugs against life.
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Offline FatBird

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Re: (Poll) Chemtrails during federal government shutdown?
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2013, 02:49:38 AM »
Michigan is still being SPRAYED everyday.
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Re: (Poll) Chemtrails during federal government shutdown?
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2013, 01:31:21 PM »

Federal government shutdown is just what we call a Punch and Judy show.

I don't know what game is really being played but I am sure the out come is that the American citizens will lose dearly.


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Re: (Poll) Chemtrails during federal government shutdown?
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Re: (Poll) Chemtrails during federal government shutdown?
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2013, 04:15:14 AM »
 
Then, the trail stopped for a while, and then started again.  Well, the conditions at that altitude did not change in that one area right?

Bill

Wrong.. the atmosphere is not homogeneous. Conditions , especially the amount of moisture in the air does change and give rise to the apparent on/off effect you describe.

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Re: (Poll) Chemtrails during federal government shutdown?
« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2013, 05:23:22 AM »
LibreEnergia, Yes you are 100% correct the atmosphere is not the same everywhere at each level.

However that does not explain how two planes flying in the same airspace can have such different trails, a chemtrail plane going one way leaving a trail right back past the horizon passes a commercial plane going the other way at the same altitude only a short distance apart, the commercial passenger plane leaves a small "normal" condensation trail, while the chemtrail plane is leaving a continuous trail of "not condensation" trailing for many miles and expanding into cloud like things. Condensation trails do not expand into cloud like things. That does not happen.

We see regular contrails go on and off as well, but a chemplane can do it at will, or stop completely when out of juice. The spray nozzles are visible in many cases. They are spaying something but what is it and why is it not told to us what they are spraying on us ?

I've noticed no actual spray planes since the U.S. government shutdown, but I did notice an very odd "too" slow moving jet several times over two nights last week then it stopped.

Cheers

P.S. On the government shutdown itself. It is a sad mob of leaders who cannot pay themselves unless they keep increasing the debt. very sad or criminally negligent at best, the entire crew.

Sack them all I say.

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Re: (Poll) Chemtrails during federal government shutdown?
« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2013, 05:23:22 AM »
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Re: (Poll) Chemtrails during federal government shutdown?
« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2013, 05:40:30 AM »

However that does not explain how two planes flying in the same airspace can have such different trails, a chemtrail plane going one way leaving a trail right back past the horizon passes a commercial plane going the other way at the same altitude only a short distance apart, the commercial passenger plane leaves a small "normal" condensation trail, while the chemtrail plane is ..

Two planes in the same airspace but going different directions will never be at the same altitude. A fundamental of air-traffic control is that planes on opposing paths will be separated vertically usually by no less than 1000 feet. This altitude difference is easily enough to account for differences in air composition.

I've seen the on/off effect many times and have only ever observed it when the atmospheric conditions would indicate that there will be unmixed air of differing temperature and humidity.

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Re: (Poll) Chemtrails during federal government shutdown?
« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2013, 05:51:32 AM »
So are you saying that a regular "condensation trail" can extend from one horizon to the other and puff out to form into cloud like things ? At some particular altitude or in certain conditions.

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Re: (Poll) Chemtrails during federal government shutdown?
« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2013, 06:16:17 AM »
Farmhand:

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So are you saying that a regular "condensation trail" can extend from one horizon to the other and puff out to form into cloud like things ? At some particular altitude or in certain conditions.

There is a huge glaring problem right there and it's not specific to you and it's not even specific to the controversial issue of alleged chem trails.

Your question is "loaded" and filled with implicit preconceptions.  The message in your question is, "regular condensation trails are not supposed to extend from horizon to horizon and they are not supposed to puff out and almost seem as big as clouds themselves.  Since "we all know" how "normal condensation trails are supposed to behave" then we are very suspicious and strongly believe that they are chem trails."

I am not trying to put words in your mouth, I am just using your statement as a typical example.

The whole preconceived argument is just one big house of cards that collapses under its own weight.  How do you know how condensation trails are "supposed" to behave?  How do you know how alleged chem trails are "supposed" to behave?

I looked at several of these slips on YouTube and that's what I saw.  Somebody will say, "Look at the cross-hatched chem trails in the sky!!!!"  The person making the clip hasn't the slightest clue if "cross hatches" mean chem trails, they are just concluding that like some kind of zombie pod person programmed by the "chem trail lobby" on YouTube and elsewhere that want to sell them books and DVDs!  In my opinion.

What I do know is that airports will change what landing strip they use as he prevailing winds change throughout the day.  That presumably causes the flight approach paths to change and it's possible that the flight approach paths at 11:00 AM are at right angles to the flight approach paths at 3:00 PM.   I also know that it's possible to have a large mass of very cold, very still air at higher altitudes and I would assume under these conditions that condensation trails can remain around for a long time and fluff out and appear to be much larger as time goes on.

The "chem trail lobby" just pushes their agenda and has blinders on that give them tunnel vision so that they can completely ignore common sense explanations for atmospheric phenomena.  They are _motivated_ to ignore common sense explanations in exactly the same way that John Badonkadunk will never explain to his target audience how a discharging inductor actually works!  It's not good for their pocketbooks!

That was a fun rant!

MileHigh

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Re: (Poll) Chemtrails during federal government shutdown?
« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2013, 06:51:41 AM »
Quote from: MileHigh
The "chem trail lobby" just pushes their agenda and has blinders on that give them tunnel vision so that they can completely ignore common sense explanations for atmospheric phenomena.  They are _motivated_ to ignore common sense explanations in exactly the same way that John Badonkadunk will never explain to his target audience how a discharging inductor actually works!  It's not good for their pocketbooks!

That was a fun rant!

Probably the only scientifically truthful statement in the
entire rant is the last statement.  Obviously the rant was
great fun for you.

The "trails in the sky" have indeed been scientifically
evaluated and samples have been collected for
scientific analysis.

The "program" has been in operation for about five
decades.  The only AGENDA at work is deception
and cover-up.  Feigning ignorance is very un-
scientific.

 

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