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Stivep1: Tesla Rehash (Akula device)
« on: October 03, 2013, 04:19:57 AM »

 Stivep1 please join me in discussing the newest video from Akula and your interpretation of that video.


 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuoISZAlFAc




 There is a lot to discuss about the similarities between Tesla's devices and someone who actually is using his methods (akula, TK and a few others).


 Lets start by showing the two devices as shown by Tesla.

 The transmitting device is upper left of the picture. The receivers are either double connected or single connection with a capacitive secondary connection to the ground. I also think that the ground is actually a capacitive connection when compared to the transmitter as well. But in my honest opinion I can see how that can be fixed by using an appropriate capacitor across the receiver coil as well. The receiver coil is actually a diode in a sense. It resists changes in it's field once they are established and adding iron or ferrite would also increase this resistance to change. But what would happen if the establishing field was external to the receiver coil?

 I also think that if the capacitor was built into the coil itself like a bifilar coil not connected that the capacitance would be built into the coil itself and the ends of the coils could be used to extract usable energy from the receiver setup from the mono impulse electric field the transmitter was supplying. Remember my ideas about the cap coil?

 Stivep1 this is a very simplified version and very workable version in my opinion. Actually this is my direction atm. What do you think?

 Reference: http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1919-05-00.htm
 

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Re: Stivep1: Tesla Rehash (Akula device)
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2013, 02:38:55 PM »

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Re: Stivep1: Tesla Rehash (Akula device)
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2013, 03:28:47 PM »



 Thanks for the links. I have seen them before.


 The one problem I see is this. Over complication of a very simple system. Using rf is another issue that has to be addressed. I do not think that RF should be used in these systems. It should be the Impulse power that Tesla discovered. The RF nets you more complications and added circuitry to convert the RF into usable power instead of the simplistic approach that Tesla used.


 I also believe this is done on purpose to keep it complicated.


 The simple fact is that voltage fields are responsible for generating inductive responses in coils. Also if anyone hasn't made the connection yet look at the orientation Tesla uses between the transmitter and receiver. This is because the impulse fields are radiative, going out from the source. This is shown in this example: pictured below.

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Re: Stivep1: Tesla Rehash (Akula device)
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2013, 09:57:17 PM »
  Because those are radiant fields, that is, that they radiate all around, they are not a good source of RF, HF, or HV to be having spewing waves all around in ones house. Especially only a few yards from Tv, radio, Pc and other sensitive devices that are affected by this type of interference. Look at the size of the spark gap, over one inch. I can smell the ozone coming off of it, from here. If he were to turn on his Tv, while the device is running, (he mentions that the secondary coil can pick up the output from the primary, even a kilometer away). LOL! So, what do you think that the Tv would look like, if he did turn on his Tv?
  So, the solution is not an easy one, yet.

  I also feel that this last Akula device is meant to distract us, more than to really show us how to make free energy. His first device had as much power output, and was much less complicated, and cheaper to replicate. 
  Hopefully his explanation of the mode of operation is correct, but somehow even that I doubt.
  The device also needs a field test run, by impartial members, away from all power sources, including possible batteries, which can be powering induction oscillators and such from inside the house, or hidden nearby. 
  A proper schematic showing all component values, working diagrams (not scribbles), and a ground connection that is really not attached to anything, other than the outside earth ground, would be what is really needed.
  So, That, Wesley and All, is what I think...  Thanks for taking the time to do the various translations, much appreciated.
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Re: Stivep1: Tesla Rehash (Akula device)
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2013, 10:26:55 PM »
NickZ


Fully agree, don't get distracted.....

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Re: Stivep1: Tesla Rehash (Akula device)
« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2013, 09:12:21 AM »
Yes Nick, agreed - totally unsuitable as a basis for domestic electricity distribution.

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Re: Stivep1: Tesla Rehash (Akula device)
« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2013, 03:50:32 PM »



 Well,


 As for an unsuitable power source lets look at the three kinds together.


 AC is very dirty and is a cause of many documented bad effects on humans. And that is just in your house. Lets look at the Iron men version and the effects of Higher voltage AC on humans that lived under and around those Iron men..... Really when you start to look at AC it gets very bad.


 RF is extremely dangerous to all living beings around the towers. Who knows what long term  low levels can do to you. Right now they are correlating the health effects of phone RF on the human brain and the formations of tumors and other health effects. AS well as interference that an improperly tuned or designed RF unit can cause.


 Impulse technology as told by Tesla doesn't have these problems or nearly as many. The fix for this is to have the transmitter and receiver away from the point of usage. Remember Akula had both right next to each other and Tesla showed this as well from the examples I gave above.
 In fact Tesla reported a properly tuned system of the proper impulses per second 2000+ is quite beneficial to the human condition. A feeling of well being and an ability to work for days non stop was reported. He even slept in the field and he said that it was very invigorating but strangely addicting.


 I would also like to reiterate the differences of two distinct systems. The Akula device uses an unclean impulse technology. It is most like RF and is not true impulse technology. Real impulse technology is truely one way impulses. The real impulses of Tesla energized then relaxed and cycled through that. I am betting this akula device energizes in both directions and that is not true impulses.




 Stivep1 also mentions something very weird in the translation about the speed of the sparkgap. Tesla was reporting cycles in the range of 1 million per second and higher, stive says 200,000 or so could be gotten from a spark gap. Lets look at the magnetically shunted spark gap and I'm sure the Tesla report of millions of cycles is very true.


 There is nothing wrong with this system for domestic power. If there is a range of interference atm it is because we know little about true shielding of this radiant event and yes it can be shielded if the power level is not extreme. That shielding must not be grounded as well.


 If we look at the second picture I have shown above we will see the flow that gets created from the earth energy. The energy is sucked up through the coil and exits the top capacitance to flow back down to the earth. We are looking at a pump. Once the flow is created the "receiver" utilizes the return energy like a generator uses the flow of water to generate from. The character of the energy returning twords the earth keeps the impulse character and that is used to create a flow from the receiving coil within the fountain like spray of the earth energy pump. Nothing says these units need to be the size of the planned Tesla Tower. They can be all sizes from tiny to larger versions.


 As usual the usual suspects come to impart their wisdom without knowing anything about the process that is involved here. Statements like unsuitable for domestic distribution are unfounded and quite frankly ignorant of anything about these processes. My statement of ignorance about this process is a fact and not am insult.


 In a month I will be in my new house and I will be starting my lab up soon to prove all the nay sayers wrong. Akula has shown there is a validity to the process and we need to correct the problems with his system to bring it under control. One problem I see is the impurity of the spark gap, which is adding wide band interference from the transmitter. Adding a magnetic shunt to the gap should clean this up and turn the impulses into clean impulses.

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Re: Stivep1: Tesla Rehash (Akula device)
« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2013, 04:11:49 PM »
Stivep1 please join me in discussing the newest video from Akula and your interpretation of that video.


 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuoISZAlFAc




 There is a lot to discuss about the similarities between Tesla's devices and someone who actually is using his methods (akula, TK and a few others).


 Lets start by showing the two devices as shown by Tesla.

 The transmitting device is upper left of the picture. The receivers are either double connected or single connection with a capacitive secondary connection to the ground. I also think that the ground is actually a capacitive connection when compared to the transmitter as well. But in my honest opinion I can see how that can be fixed by using an appropriate capacitor across the receiver coil as well. The receiver coil is actually a diode in a sense. It resists changes in it's field once they are established and adding iron or ferrite would also increase this resistance to change. But what would happen if the establishing field was external to the receiver coil?

 I also think that if the capacitor was built into the coil itself like a bifilar coil not connected that the capacitance would be built into the coil itself and the ends of the coils could be used to extract usable energy from the receiver setup from the mono impulse electric field the transmitter was supplying. Remember my ideas about the cap coil?

 Stivep1 this is a very simplified version and very workable version in my opinion. Actually this is my direction atm. What do you think?

 Reference: http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1919-05-00.htm

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Re: Stivep1: Tesla Rehash (Akula device)
« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2013, 07:32:58 PM »
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author=jbignes5 link=topic=13863.msg372494#msg372494 date=1380894632





 As for an unsuitable power source lets look at the three kinds together.






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Stivep1 also mentions something very weird in the translation about the speed of the sparkgap. Tesla was reporting cycles in the range of 1 million per second and higher, stive says 200,000 or so could be gotten from a spark gap. Lets look at the magnetically shunted spark gap and I'm sure the Tesla report of millions of cycles is very true.


Well
the higher the frequency of the spark the more continuous plasma is flowing at  certain frequency  difference between  low of the pick and  high of the pick is barely  noticeable.
200khz sounds about right.
The higher  the frequency the spectrum of impurities ( harmonics of all sort) occupies  upper( higher) part of spectrum.
I could bet that Akula device does not go  higher than that.


Try to listen to my  addition to translation  in my video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuoISZAlFAc




And find part:
14:43 and  drown schematic out of my words


at this par of explanation I was trying to explain principals of operation with the approach as if there was no famous yoke but regular  ferrite based yokes to  stop impulse to  be transferred from the other side of it.


I'm not authorized at this time to go deeper into it as I went till now.
Please understand that I' will never be corrupted and I will never advance myself if I'm  being  hold accountable.
That is why people comes to me with  their secrets as well.
If there is no objection than  information is   posted  to the public or if the party that is requesting certain behavior is no longer credible in general  rules of  humanity  we have been born with than  my obligation is no longer  hold.


So what are the exemptions:
If there situation pushing One to change himself, say someone demands from One under the threat that  "One is a dog"
- He will admit " Yes that dog I'm." :)
there is nothing  wrong ,to give something only because one is threatened.[/size]
At the end there  is no[/size]
 more "Spanish inquisition"- it died soon after that ,  because of One who did not die at  the first place. 

I think this is clear.
So if for any reason  you might listen to some strange statements of mine you know- that all.
So far there is no need for that :)
It did not happened  yet.


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There is nothing wrong with this system for domestic power. If there is a range of interference and it is because we know little about true shielding of this radiant event and yes it can be shielded if the power level is not extreme. That shielding must not be grounded as well.

Yes



 
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If we look at the second picture I have shown above we will see the flow that gets created from the earth energy. The energy is sucked up through the coil and exits the top capacitance to flow back down to the earth. We are looking at a pump. Once the flow is created the "receiver" utilizes the return energy like a generator uses the flow of water to generate from. The character of the energy returning twords the earth keeps the impulse character and that is used to create a flow from the receiving coil within the fountain like spray of the earth energy pump. Nothing says these units need to be the size of the planned Tesla Tower. They can be all sizes from tiny to larger versions.




yes that is present understanding of the phenomena.

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As usual the usual suspects come to impart their wisdom without knowing anything about the process that is involved here. Statements like unsuitable for domestic distribution are unfounded and quite frankly ignorant of anything about these processes. My statement of ignorance about this process is a fact and not am insult.


agree  100%
blood suckers will gets what they deserve to get.


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In a month I will be in my new house and I will be starting my lab up soon to prove all the nay sayers wrong. Akula has shown there is a validity to the process and we need to correct the problems with his system to bring it under control. One problem I see is the impurity of the spark gap, which is adding wide band interference from the transmitter. Adding a magnetic shunt to the gap should clean this up and turn the impulses into clean impulses.


interesting approach, another one will be to create  electronic square wave equivalent of spark gap and work with it trying inject it right before the very top of the impulse is being reached.
As I not  necessarily agree with Akula standing that that impulse should be given at the dying  part of the impulse.


I also do not see our hero being  so good for us to say  something at all.He is young, and misleading if there is in his direct  interest. inconsistent in his statements, adjusting himself  to changes of situation , trying to learn how the system work, - he has it but he has no explanation for what he got from it.
He  is improvising.
The pump phenomena - part of his  explanation is about right.
I see it as good explanation for the present time as we do not have anything on hand.
But also  famous yoke..............
somehow omitted in all of his talk and still present in the device.
Think guys


In first  video:
-he said that he  had to change yoke ferrite because  previous one did not work.
Well
Lithuania experiment did not have problem, with yoke as major energy extraction element.


Another possible  explanation  is that purpose of choke  is to stop  impulse to go  to the other side of it.
So if we say that  that yoke  is used only as (primary function) choke  than  why it has 3 winds on it? ??? ??
it should be one..............




So what is that he wants? :
He needs  certain credibility to attract investors if any.
So he needs public approval.
Is that wrong?
 NO it is not
Who gives anything for free.........................to anyone.......... who?
It is  only Wesley  and Arunas and Tiger and few more ........ idiots?......... maybe not so..................
Are they so good for you guys..............so  human?............ so stupid?...................


So if you listen to them they say :
No they  are not..................
They have no choice as well. They know that  giving is to humanity is the only  way to make money on it as well.
That is why they stand that energy  belongs to humanity all bad and good at no distinction .
You start firs you sold 1000 devices in one day, so is other guys as well..
What's wrong with that.
there are 6.8 billion peoples in  the planet  earth. Who cares about competition.
What is really  that you need to be happy.
House, no debts, and some  little money  for comfortable tomorrow . That is all.
If you guys  think different than you are not in my coffee table.


And your thinking is not my cup of tea

GOT IT?




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Re: Stivep1: Tesla Rehash (Akula device)
« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2013, 10:39:06 PM »
Competition to what ? BE serious. Take a few meters of wire few simple parts, car battery and the genious of Kapanadze and you got 5-10 kW . Costs you a few bucks really...if you know what Tariel knows. The problem is sophisticaed because of nature of human. We likes to complicate and the more complicated the more it is attractive and precious while it is really a crap, while a thing looking like crap is usable...

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Re: Stivep1: Tesla Rehash (Akula device)
« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2013, 01:35:36 AM »


 Stivep,


 Let me be perfectly clear I have no issues with you my friend. I know it may have sounded like that but that is not the case.


 I wanted to open a dialogue with you about this to finally nit out the whole system. To get it out in the open.


 I know you have been working on another theory but I think someone has thrown you a great distraction at the perfect time. Going the way you went or is currently going is distracting you from the real power behind this system. Yes resonance has something to do with it but it isn't nuclear resonance. It is a whole system resonance which includes the Earth as well. Didn't you ever wonder why Tesla knew the exact capacity of the earth? There was a reason why and it has to do with the resonance between the earth and the ionosphere. Since the system includes the earth and to a certain extent the atmosphere these things need to be known for the simple fact that he knew that a resonance will pass over a circuit or component like it wasn't there at all. With a whole system approach that includes all of the components like the earth one can pass over any component like it wasn't there and that even means the atmosphere.


 One thing that needs to be focused on is not getting distracted from the projects that show Tesla's work. He, Tesla, knew without a shadow of a doubt that this system was and is the answer. The problem is weather we will be here to experiment any more.


 *deleted comment about Fukushima...*

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Re: Stivep1: Tesla Rehash (Akula device)
« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2013, 03:40:05 AM »

 Stivep,


 Let me be perfectly clear I have no issues with you my friend. I know it may have sounded like that but that is not the case.


 I wanted to open a dialogue with you about this to finally nit out the whole system. To get it out in the open.


 I know you have been working on another theory but I think someone has thrown you a great distraction at the perfect time. Going the way you went or is currently going is distracting you from the real power behind this system. Yes resonance has something to do with it but it isn't nuclear resonance. It is a whole system resonance which includes the Earth as well. Didn't you ever wonder why Tesla knew the exact capacity of the earth? There was a reason why and it has to do with the resonance between the earth and the ionosphere. Since the system includes the earth and to a certain extent the atmosphere these things need to be known for the simple fact that he knew that a resonance will pass over a circuit or component like it wasn't there at all. With a whole system approach that includes all of the components like the earth one can pass over any component like it wasn't there and that even means the atmosphere.


 One thing that needs to be focused on is not getting distracted from the projects that show Tesla's work. He, Tesla, knew without a shadow of a doubt that this system was and is the answer. The problem is weather we will be here to experiment any more.


 *deleted comment about Fukushima...*


I'm obligated to work on Colman, I invested  a lot in to it.
I'm not excluding other  technologies but I admit  I'm preoccupied with Colman.


Actually with electron microscope to bring it to life as that was a gift of heart.
I finished  work with  Vacuum chamber  - Bell Jar   also gift from another man.this one is absolutely  ready fort any vacuum experiment. But I need more connectors.
Feedthrough Double Ended BNC Connector, 10-Pin Feedthrough  and so on.




I will try to help  to this topic  as much as I can




Wesley








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Re: Stivep1: Tesla Rehash (Akula device)
« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2013, 04:15:18 AM »
I am so envious of you atm. I remember the gifting as I saw the video. What a powerful gift. I wish I had it with the crystal batteries I was working on, I bet it would have proved a thing or two that I was saying about the structure of crystals I was seeing in my experiments.


 The nmr experiment is good but let me ask you a question. One that I know was brought up before. The Geiger counters work on ionizing gas. Well what happens next to a Tesla coil? Would this ionization of a florescent tube be the exact same thing? Has anyone used a Geiger counter next to a Tesla coil? I'm betting it will go off just like being exposed to a high radiation source. I'm thinking you are seeing the voltage field and not true radiation like your looking for.
 Besides getting hits on the Geiger counter what tells you it is radiation like you are looking for?




 As for my planned experiments with the Tesla coil and receiver I have quite a lot of work to do before getting under way. First is the move to a new house. Next will be getting the lab area setup and properly shielded. and then I will be starting to focus on the simple experiments first that Tesla shows us and that I have shown previously in this thread.


 Akula did so something right and that was to go back to Tesla and figure out what he did. No matter if he just got lucky or what doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if Akula knows how it works at this point. The only thing that matters to a real extent is that he is getting results. I will be more then happy to recreate the Tesla experiments to prove it and to figure out the means of which it operates.


 But like I posted before we might not have a long time to figure this out. Fukushima is getting worse and the company that is handling the results of the meltdowns is in rough shape. They haven't a clue what they are doing and are doing what they are doing in a hap hazard way. I fear we are not being told the whole truth and real radiation is gonna be our biggest worry. Some of the materials have a shelf life of 1.7 million years and would be extremely hard to clean up once in the pacific ocean. I think we are heading for a major disaster worse then the original event.

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Re: Stivep1: Tesla Rehash (Akula device)
« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2013, 05:30:47 AM »
  Excuse me for butting in...  just wanted to say that this has been a very interesting chat.
  You all have good ideas, towards forwarding this to new levels, possibly even not contemplated by Tesla himself.
  If we all put our heads together on this, we'll be able to figure it out. Maybe Kapanadze or Akula, Barbosa, or others, would like to help out. Maybe not. I know that Igor Moroz is hot on the track. And is telling and showing all. So, in time we'll see the Light, one way or another.
  I'm one of those that will not easily give up on this, against all odds.
  Even though we may have different opinions, at times, and may not see eye to eye on everything, we all want the same thing, in the end.
  Free energy for yourselves, and others as well.
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« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2013, 08:38:45 AM »

System of reception of energy from a surrounding medium.

For reception of energy from a surrounding medium it is necessary to create system in
Conformity with the stated theoretical concept for making of process,
Proceeding according to the equations 1 and 2.
The main device of system is a generator of a primary impulse divU0. In quality
Impulse it is necessary to create very powerful impulse of magnet field with steep leading edges
(Similarly δ - functions). Feature of an impulse with the steep leading edges, similar δ -
Functions in that at decomposition of such signal in a harmonic series Fourier
The perpetual number of harmonics is gained. Each harmonic is a constituent
Hologrammes of structure and it is simultaneous - one of the perpetual variants of development
Structures. The structure to which the magnetic impulse divU0 gets, will begin
To resound on frequencies of eigentones, and therefore such resonance will be
To create the harmonious signal which will be a constituent volume
Projections of the hologramme of structure. Structurally, as the generator primary
Impulse it is necessary to use the reel from several coils of a thick wire, and
The reel should be in-series to the discharger - to the nonlinear component,
Creating a powerful current pulse with very steep leading edges. Also it is collateral
To the reel and the discharger the condenser, for accumulation of an electric charge and formation of a powerful current pulse should be included. All contour of the generator should be fed by a constant voltage 10000 - 20000 Century
The second integral device of system are resonators - them should be
Necessarily a little. Each resonator includes the reel having
Considerably большее number of coils, than the reel of the generator-shaper primary
Impulse and with more thin wire. One extremity of such reel is earthed, and another -
Remains to free. As a whole each resonator is the system consisting of the reel and
"Parasitic capacity" - containers between the free extremity of the reel and the earth. Through this
"Stray" container so-called "displacement currents" will proceed. The resonator is
The system inductance-capacity, it represents an oscillating circuit, which
Will resound on frequency of eigentones and it is essential to strengthen
Oscillations from a primary impulse divU. Frequencies of eigentones of resonators
Should be certainly multiple each other to provide “an enclosure
Waves ”. Resonators should settle down in pairs in each of three mutually
Orthogonal planes. In each pair at the first resonator frequency of the natural
Oscillations should be f1, and at the second resonator - f2, and the relation of these frequencies
Should yield an integer. Each pair of resonators will create modulated on
To amplitude oscillations with a carrier frequency f1 and modulation frequency f2 (drawing 1 see)

Drawing 1 - the Vortex, as sruktura-attraktor at which the exterior surface has
The plus curvature, and an interior surface - the negative curvature.

Drawing 2 - the Projection of the hologramme created by a pair of resonators

Resonators with identical frequencies of eigentones f1 or f2,
Located in different orthogonal planes should have phase shiftings 90 °
In coordination working resonators, that is when waves of each resonator
Are harmoniously enclosed each other, and disposed orthogonally from each other
Will shape hologramme projections (drawing 2). Each projection will be
To develop with other orthogonal projections and as a whole, generated
The volume hologramme finally forms structure (drawing 1).
The created structure will be similar to a globular lightning or a mega-electron. This
The structure will start to grow in volume, at each new impulse to involve
(поляризовывать) all new and new volumes of universal medium. Thus energy on structure formation will undertake from environmental universal medium. To remove energy it will be necessary by its pumping out from the generated structure.
Thanks to that in the generator of a primary impulse divU0 there is a discharger,
Which clears after impulse passage, energy from resonators will not be
To leave revertively in the reel of the pulser at the expense of a common reactance of reels.
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