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TinselKoala

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Re: Self accelerating reed switch magnet spinner.
« Reply #435 on: January 05, 2014, 10:47:49 AM »
@Milehigh,

Have a look at this video on the "Macroscopic Aharonov-Bohm effect":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugxmtT4FUME


This relates to the "Vector A potential" of Dr. Richard Feynman; The vector A potential is not confined to the magnet core, and is located along the axis of symmetry in the toroid schematic below!


Conradelectro sadly failed to harness this charging effect because he overwound his "Synchro coil".

This video does not show what it says it is showing. Both parts are simply wrong, they are misinterpretations of what is actually happening.

A "Bloch wall" has no more reality than isobars on a weather map. All magnetic field lines are closed loops.
This is the physical meaning of "div B = 0". To claim a "frequency" of a "Bloch wall" sounds like nonsense to me. Cut a bar magnet in half at the "Bloch wall" with a hacksaw and what do you get: you get two, smaller, bar magnets and now "suddenly" you have two "Bloch walls", one in the center of each of your new short bar magnets. Pretty strange behaviour for something that you think is "real" and has a "frequency".

conradelektro

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Re: Self accelerating reed switch magnet spinner.
« Reply #436 on: January 05, 2014, 11:03:17 AM »
Conrad:

That's a nice looking first setup.  I hope that you have fun with the DC motor and look forward to seeing what kinds of tests you end up doing.

MileHigh

@MileHigh: My intention is to test for differences between bi-filar and mono-filar coils with the same physical size and the same number of turns of identical wire (same wire length).

For such tests I need a "test bed" which allows to spin a diametrically magnetized magnet (as a rotor) with a predefined speed (rpm) to test for differences in "picking up electricity" as in a dynamo and to test for differences in "Lenz drag".

Now I have two such "test beds", a puls motor (which should react very well to "Lenz drag") and the set up with the 12V DC motor (which should provide a constant rpm even under some drag).

There are of course other measurements to do, like impedance, self resonance, phase angle, parasitic capacitance. I read so many fantastic stories and claims about bifilar coils, I want to see myself , if there is anything to it.

Since synchro1 made such outrageous claims about his "synchro coil", I tested a replication of such a "synchro coil". And it does not show any interesting effects. Therefore all further tests with a "synchro coil" are not very pressing for me and will be done as an unimportant "side show".

Once I have wound a set of "coils to be tested" I will create a new thread for discussion. I also want to make the "magnet spinner with the 12 DC motor" a bit better (a better coupling between the 12 V DC motor with the spinner axis).

In the meantime this crazy thread will do. Nobody is in a hurry besides synchro1. He can do his own tests in case he needs them urgently. I am not his tester. I test what interests me at my own slow speed. And I am always grateful for ideas and suggestions, as long as they are not too crazy and too insulting.

Synchro1 has clearly overstepped my tolerance. I have not made any claims, I even admit that my tests are not disproving the "synchro coil" in any general way (negative proof is never possible; one can only prove that "something is", never that "something is not"). My tests of a "replication of the synchro coil" show nothing special, that is the only result. One can draw conclusions, but not more. May be synchro1 can build one that is special. But it is up to him.

Greetings, Conrad

synchro1

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Re: Self accelerating reed switch magnet spinner.
« Reply #437 on: January 05, 2014, 05:10:00 PM »
@MH, TK & CE,


I'm amused by you three stodgy cynics; To imagine a magnetic field is solid and not dynamic is utterly ludicrous to me. I tested the "Cook Effect" thousands of times, spoken about it constantly on the web site. A grade school kid could get the test to work.  Conradelectro says his experiment's on the "backburner" because I'm crazy. The Schumman constant turns out to be imaginary; We have Magnetic resonance imaging in medicine and recently I saw a bifilar pancake wireless energy receiver in a Samsung cell phone that's the highest state of the art, charging the phone off Wi-Fi signals at the airport, and Conradelectro's building some paleolithic "flintstone" contraption to demystify the coil. The three of you guys are just a set of inveterate "Cranks", and you all just "Chickened out" on my hot plate bet while all the time going on with endless reams of rubbish. I started this thread and I want you creeps to stay on topic.      

conradelektro

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Re: Self accelerating reed switch magnet spinner.
« Reply #438 on: January 05, 2014, 06:09:21 PM »
I did another test with the synchro coil. It is about the claim that the "synchro coil" charges up a capacitor by just sitting there.

Please see the attached photo and drawing which depicts the test.

I did the test also with a "normal coil". And I moved a strong magnet left and right (several times) in front of the coils which induces a small Voltage into the cap (up to 1 Volt if you do it fast and long enough) which dissipates soon through the Voltmeter. This is to prove that everything was connected correctly.

Measuring just 0 Volt is not very indicative. But showing that a coil produces electricity if a magnet is passed rapidly passed it, proves what is commonly known.

Of course, synchro1 will see a conspiracy, so be it. Sorry, I do not have a diode which can rectify Terahertz.

What did I show: in my house a "replication of the synchro coil" does not produce electricity by just sitting there. It behaves like a "normal coil" and only produces electricity if a magnet is moved passed it.

Conradelectro says his experiment's on the "backburner" because I'm crazy.

I did not write that, but you speak the truth this time. You are either trying to be funny in a strange way or you have a serious mental condition.

Greetings, Conrad
« Last Edit: January 05, 2014, 08:32:28 PM by conradelektro »

synchro1

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Re: Self accelerating reed switch magnet spinner.
« Reply #439 on: January 05, 2014, 08:47:54 PM »
@Conradelektro,


Try one layer of wire on the magnet stack. There's a spin field outside the magnets, Dr. Richard Feynman calls it the A vector potential. He also says you have to give the coil a bit of thought to harness it. Daniel Mcfarland Cook used one layer of 32 gauage wire, and a second of 16. There's way too much wire on the coil. I pointed this out over and over. Try "A Little bit of thought"!  

conradelektro

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Re: Self accelerating reed switch magnet spinner.
« Reply #440 on: January 05, 2014, 09:30:56 PM »
@Conradelektro,
Try one layer of wire on the magnet stack. There's a spin field outside the magnets, Dr. Richard Feynman calls it the A vector potential. He also says you have to give the coil a bit of thought to harness it. Daniel Mcfarland Cook used one layer of 32 gauage wire, and a second of 16. There's way too much wire on the coil. I pointed this out over and over. Try "A Little bit of thought"! 

@synchro1: so, what is it, one layer of wire or two layers (one 32 gauge and the second 16 gauge)?

How do I wind "a little bit of thought" onto the magnet stack?

Why do we need the spinning magnet if the coil does it all by itself? Make up your mind. Give it a little bit of thought.

Greetings, Conrad

synchro1

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Re: Self accelerating reed switch magnet spinner.
« Reply #441 on: January 05, 2014, 10:27:24 PM »
@Conradelektro,


The coil I got my best results with is in this picture with green wire on it. The magnets I used were very powerful 1" radials of high quality. You can see one mounted over the brown coil. Two of those coupled in the radio shack spool with the green wire. This is home sitting on my test bench and I find it a bit amusing that you're encountering such enormous difficulties getting the charge that's so easy for me.


You may have to start over with two of your more powerful rotor magnets. The A vector spin's close to the magnets, so it really doesn't help to build the wire to far away from the surface of the magnets. Somebody else will probably succeed before you do at the rate your going. I like to poke a little fun at you guys, don't take it the wrong way!  

conradelektro

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Re: Self accelerating reed switch magnet spinner.
« Reply #442 on: January 05, 2014, 11:00:41 PM »
Now I have a "one layer synchro coil".

And you do not have to guess, it is exactly the same, zero output, same set up as in my previous test with the "overwound synchro coil".

And of course, if I wave a magnet over the coil I can induce a few mV.

So synchro, what is it now, any excuses?

Quick, write some excuses before I hold the "one layer synchro coil" near the spinning magnet. It has about 2 Ohm DC resistance.

Greetings, Conrad

conradelektro

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Re: Self accelerating reed switch magnet spinner.
« Reply #443 on: January 05, 2014, 11:22:49 PM »
I tested the "one layer synchro coil" with the spinning magnet (with the 12 V motor magnet spinner) and the highest output over a 3 Ohm resistor is about 7 mV at 3000 rpm very close to the spinning magnet (3 mm).

If I go further away from the spinning magnet the output rapidly goes below 1 mV (which is the lower limit of my scope).

Synchro1, I am through with you. You have to find an other fool for your strange concepts. It was fun as long as it lasted. Best is you show your own tests and measurements in this thread. I can not do it to your liking.

Yes, I know, bigger magnets, faster spinning. It always needs something bigger and faster to do the impossible.

In a few days, once I have wound a set of pan cake coils, I will start a new thread for the discussion of the differences between bi-filar and mono-filar pan cake coils (the coils having the same physical dimensions and the same length of identical wire).

Greetings, Conrad

MileHigh

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Re: Self accelerating reed switch magnet spinner.
« Reply #444 on: January 06, 2014, 02:39:40 AM »
TK:

Certainly Bloch walls can exist in real life under the right set of conditions.  But my first response to that is "So what?"

Likewise certainly there are no Bloch walls in bar magnets.  In an ideal world when you state that to someone that believes that there is a Bloch wall inside a bar magnet, they would be curious and go and do the research.  It's so ridiculously easy to do in this day and age.  They would educate themselves and come back and post stating that they realize that they were wrong.  Perhaps more importantly they would realise that they were being misled by other people.  They might even start to question the motives of the people that misled them.

Very sadly, that almost never happens.  Even more sadly, some of their more informed peers that they consider colleagues with the same views and aspirations, they won't tell them that there are no Bloch walls in bar magnets.  Fear has many manifestations.

I think there is also a "rebel" angle.  It feels "cool" to go against the grain and just parrot incorrect and misleading concepts because some dude with an alternative energy cult following says it's true - without offering a shred of proof.  Many people wil continue to believe that there are Bloch walls inside bar magnets when it doesn't even make any sense.

MileHigh

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Re: Self accelerating reed switch magnet spinner.
« Reply #445 on: January 06, 2014, 03:10:59 PM »
@Milehigh,


Do you own any bar magnets? I purchased the full range of neodydmium spheres, tubes, and disk magnets
from the largest to the smallest and own hundreds of bar magnets. My theories followed my test results not the other way around. Every magnet has two poles and a neutral zone between the fields of opposite spin wherein there is no attraction force in either direction. 


Conradelektro has proven something of value; Weak low grade magnets won't produce the "Cook effect".
The only experimenters who can contribute worthwhile results are the ones who can afford to buy powerful high grade magnets to experiment with. Why can't you afford to buy magnets of this kind to help?

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Re: Self accelerating reed switch magnet spinner.
« Reply #446 on: January 06, 2014, 03:37:29 PM »

Conradelektro has proven something of value; Weak low grade magnets won't produce the "Cook effect".
The only experimenters who can contribute worthwhile results are the ones who can afford to buy powerful high grade magnets to experiment with. Why can't you afford to buy magnets of this kind to help?


@synchro1: why do you always twist the facts? Attached find the specification of the magnets I used to build both versions of the "synchro coil", they are "high grade" Neodymium NdFeB / N45 (6 stuck together to form a tube).

Greetings, Conrad

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Re: Self accelerating reed switch magnet spinner.
« Reply #447 on: January 06, 2014, 04:04:14 PM »
Synchro1:

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Why can't you afford to buy magnets of this kind to help?

WHAT?  Did I ever say that I can't afford to buy magnets?  You have to stop putting words in people's mouths.

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My theories followed my test results not the other way around. Every magnet has two poles and a neutral zone between the fields of opposite spin wherein there is no attraction force in either direction.

Your test results are correct but your theories are wrong.  "I see no attraction therefore there must be a Bloch wall" is wrong.  Please do the research online or get some books on electricity and magnetism.

MileHigh



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Re: Self accelerating reed switch magnet spinner.
« Reply #448 on: January 06, 2014, 05:51:36 PM »
@synchro1: why do you always twist the facts? Attached find the specification of the magnets I used to build both versions of the "synchro coil", they are "high grade" Neodymium NdFeB / N45 (6 stuck together to form a tube).

Greetings, Conrad


Don't you think accusing me of "Always twisting facts" is putting a bit too much on it?


Get serious! Your magnets are a full five times smaller then the ones I used in length and half the width. That's a factor of at least 10 times less powerful. You need to link twenty of those magnets together to equal the strength. Cook's ferrite cores were six feet long. Try and couple as many large diametric magnets as you have together, place a wrap of dielectric tape around them, give them a light coil wrap and retest for the spontaneous charge!  


The magnet core coil won't work as a flux field generator if it fails to generate the spontaneous charge from the "A" vector potential. It doesn't matter how large it is! You can get this to work if you try hard enough.

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Re: Self accelerating reed switch magnet spinner.
« Reply #449 on: January 06, 2014, 06:24:29 PM »

Don't you think accusing me of "Always twisting facts" is putting a bit too much on it?


Get serious! Your magnets are a full five times smaller then the ones I used in length and half the width. That's a factor of at least 10 times less powerful. You need to link twenty of those magnets together to equal the strength. Cook's ferrite cores were six feet long. Try and couple as many large diametric magnets as you have together, place a wrap of dielectric tape around them, give them a light coil wrap and retest for the spontaneous charge! 


The magnet core coil won't work as a flux field generator if it fails to generate the spontaneous charge from the "A" vector potential. It doesn't matter how large it is! You can get this to work if you try hard enough.

Why the great push to have Conrad do tests that you say you have done yourself? Why cant you show 'your' results first?  Something is weird here. ???

Are you afraid to show the results??  So you want someone else to show them so they can take all the risks of showing, if it works at all?  Thats the only reason I can come up with. ???

Mags