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Author Topic: Self Running Motor Generator - for sale in 3 weeks  (Read 115403 times)

Offline Temporal Visitor

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Re: Self Running Motor Generator - for sale in 3 weeks
« Reply #60 on: October 08, 2013, 02:24:07 PM »
MileHigh, that is kinda cute though ridiculous. - A Magical Mystery tour awaits and it just may "blow your little mind".

I am pretty sure you have read some proposed rules elsewhere, particularly rule #3 the PAY ATTENTION rule:
YES a working mechanical amplifier and NO it isn't in a box. - So what! It is not best of the of what has also been prepared for those "helpers" I hope to meet while still this side of the grass.

While a Prony brake could be used for the mechanical amplifier(s) - So what! - "We don't need no stinking Prony brakes" - because load bank(s) work just fine on complete power plant(s).

For all I know you might be High, in more than one way, thus operating on differing frequencies but that does not mean we cannot become "buds".
Or does it?
Because I don't do hallucinogenics - What sayeth thee O MileHigh ?

So I ask: Since I answered you and you blew off my questions will you tell me directly that you prefer to malinger in the shadows like a dog nipping at my heels or should I plan on you riding your MileHighHorse with your Prony into my future privately???

You don't need to answer here - just make contact to become a "bud"- or "buzz off" - YOU DECIDE, while I go back to my plow.



Temporal Visitor:

Is this the Beatles meeting the Maharishi Yogi in the Himalayan mountains to contemplate Lotus flowers or do you have a box that's supposed to output free mechanical energy?

I'm not getting any harmonic vibrational messages from the five perfect solids telling me that you have a Prony brake in your future.

MileHigh

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Offline MileHigh

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Re: Self Running Motor Generator - for sale in 3 weeks
« Reply #61 on: October 08, 2013, 02:47:29 PM »
Temporal Visitor:

What are you here for?  I am assuming that you are here to discuss your alleged "mechanical amplifier," the one where we see pictures and diagrams on your web site.

So, it's a mechanical device?  What's the power output?  How do you measure it?  Does it require and input and if yes how do you measure the input?  When do you plan on making this alleged device available?

I remember this guy Wayne of HydroEnergy Revolution:

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The key "Principle" on our path to "success" has  been our group working by Faith, Hope, and Determination..... the result has  been an awesome to Collaboration of competent open minds.
The result and character of those "open minds" has  propelled us beyond standard limitations.........we are building onto the understanding of mechanical physics as they are know and taught today - and for  one reason - a better future.

The guy could never answer a straightforward question.  He is still apparently spinning his wheels and going nowhere fast.
You can't answer a straightforward question either.  You allege that you have a free energy device but you balk and do a song and dance when somebody asks you what the power output is and how you measure it.  Those are reasonable commonsense questions.
You won't see me posting in this thread anymore unless you show a working system.  Good luck on that deliverable.

MileHigh

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Re: Self Running Motor Generator - for sale in 3 weeks
« Reply #62 on: October 08, 2013, 04:04:39 PM »
Reasonable scientific discourse goes like this:

A claimant makes some claims, and _PROVIDES EVIDENCE_ from experiments of his or her own or from the work of others.
Interested and knowledgeable parties then discuss the EVIDENCE, that is, the data and the experiments and apparatus that generated the data. They discuss the DATA, its quality, its relevance to the issues, its interpretation. They may discuss the "theory" that motivated the experimenter, or serendipitous discoveries made along the way, or interesting bits of apparatus that further the investigation, or problems and glitches they have experienced. They may discuss problems they see in the work of others, and how to solve them.

What is NOT APPROPRIATE is dropping hints without evidence to support them, making claims based on bogus or improperly gathered evidence, or not providing ANY EVIDENCE AT ALL for the claims made. Also very inappropriate are the ad-hominem abusive attacks and insults against other people, however incompetent, stupid, ugly and smelly, stoned out of their gourds, certifiably insane, they might be.

So... Temporal Visitor.... I challenge you: State your claim clearly, and provide EVIDENCE for it. Then let's discuss your evidence, what it means, how you obtained it and what you plan on doing next. Let's also discuss why you cannot self-loop your system and why your home is still connected to the electricity grid.

 :P




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Re: Self Running Motor Generator - for sale in 3 weeks
« Reply #63 on: October 08, 2013, 04:05:07 PM »
MileHigh, your assumptions are incorrect. I have answered your questions although you may not like the answers.
Remember: In the past I have asked questions you refused to answer. - You continue to refuse to answer. - You are the hit and run type as I told you before. Remember that? - You have nothing over me.

Your silence speaks volumes about you.

Your Silence can only be equated with fraud. ........ so run along. 


Temporal Visitor:

What are you here for?  I am assuming that you are here to discuss your alleged "mechanical amplifier," the one where we see pictures and diagrams on your web site.

So, it's a mechanical device?  What's the power output?  How do you measure it?  Does it require and input and if yes how do you measure the input?  When do you plan on making this alleged device available?

I remember this guy Wayne of HydroEnergy Revolution:

The guy could never answer a straightforward question.  He is still apparently spinning his wheels and going nowhere fast.
You can't answer a straightforward question either.  You allege that you have a free energy device but you balk and do a song and dance when somebody asks you what the power output is and how you measure it.  Those are reasonable commonsense questions.
You won't see me posting in this thread anymore unless you show a working system.  Good luck on that deliverable.

MileHigh

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Re: Self Running Motor Generator - for sale in 3 weeks
« Reply #64 on: October 08, 2013, 05:04:08 PM »
Yawn ......... and only because you still have yet to rise up to the challenge put to you, and back on or about August 09, 2013.

Please recall the one wherein I wrote: "Let's see you show the math to be incorrect. With or without any digits of precision."

Did you do that? Can you? ....... Respectfully I do not think you can - or you would have already jumped on that opportunity.

I am going to repeat myself to ANY and ALL "UNHEALTHY skeptics" - go read this in its entirety! http://www.backgauges.com/Gen-E-Sys%20II/skeptic.html
I did not come here to fight. - I just have no time for "challenges" from the "challenged", or any who have previously failed to "man up".

FYI - I'll excuse you and welcome you to "Contact" me through the website. That's being reasonable.

Reasonable scientific discourse goes like this:

A claimant makes some claims, and _PROVIDES EVIDENCE_ from experiments of his or her own or from the work of others.
Interested and knowledgeable parties then discuss the EVIDENCE, that is, the data and the experiments and apparatus that generated the data. They discuss the DATA, its quality, its relevance to the issues, its interpretation. They may discuss the "theory" that motivated the experimenter, or serendipitous discoveries made along the way, or interesting bits of apparatus that further the investigation, or problems and glitches they have experienced. They may discuss problems they see in the work of others, and how to solve them.

What is NOT APPROPRIATE is dropping hints without evidence to support them, making claims based on bogus or improperly gathered evidence, or not providing ANY EVIDENCE AT ALL for the claims made. Also very inappropriate are the ad-hominem abusive attacks and insults against other people, however incompetent, stupid, ugly and smelly, stoned out of their gourds, certifiably insane, they might be.

So... Temporal Visitor.... I challenge you: State your claim clearly, and provide EVIDENCE for it. Then let's discuss your evidence, what it means, how you obtained it and what you plan on doing next. Let's also discuss why you cannot self-loop your system and why your home is still connected to the electricity grid.

 :P
« Last Edit: October 08, 2013, 07:05:51 PM by Temporal Visitor »

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Re: Self Running Motor Generator - for sale in 3 weeks
« Reply #64 on: October 08, 2013, 05:04:08 PM »
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Re: Self Running Motor Generator - for sale in 3 weeks
« Reply #65 on: October 08, 2013, 05:14:34 PM »
Yawn .........


@@Temporal Visitor,
clearly you are rude and arrogant, with nothing real to offer this group apart from your own ego trip,
you are not the first with this approach and unfortunately you won't be the last.

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Re: Self Running Motor Generator - for sale in 3 weeks
« Reply #66 on: October 08, 2013, 06:20:12 PM »
Hi ariovaldo,

nice attempt to replicate!... Thanks for making a video of your device under test.

I noticed that you don't have the components in your device that can be seen in Valy's video which I think could be responsible for creating the -90 degrees phase shift between voltage and current (reactive power) condition needed for the motor to turn the generator without causing a load to the generator.

I find it interesting that so far no one has mentioned anything about that unusual component.

At this time I cannot confirm for sure if the principal works but what I can tell you is, a week prior to seeing Valy's video I was doing some tests on a reactive circuit and seeing that unusual component leads me to believe it could possibly work as I've described in my post on page 2 of this topic.

Unfortunately, I will not be publicly sharing information until I have made all the tests to prove it can work or not.
Once I have confirmed it, I will be freely shared the information (working or not) so others can try if they wish.

So until you have identified that component and know what to do with it, your replication attempt may not be complete.

Thanks for sharing

Luc


First off, thank you ariovaldo for posting your build, nice work!
Hope you can continue your "free energy" research if your wife lets you  :)


Luc, interesting suggestion on  creating the -90 degrees phase shift between voltage and current (reactive power). 
Something like that is needed to bring this simple mechanical off-the-shelf design to the marketplace.
Maybe phase shift the voltage and current to be in phase like Tesla Longitudinal wave?




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Re: Self Running Motor Generator - for sale in 3 weeks
« Reply #66 on: October 08, 2013, 06:20:12 PM »
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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Self Running Motor Generator - for sale in 3 weeks
« Reply #67 on: October 08, 2013, 11:25:28 PM »
Yawn ......... and only because you still have yet to rise up to the challenge put to you, and back on or about August 09, 2013.

Please recall the one wherein I wrote: "Let's see you show the math to be incorrect. With or without any digits of precision."

Did you do that? Can you? ....... Respectfully I do not think you can - or you would have already jumped on that opportunity.

I am going to repeat myself to ANY and ALL "UNHEALTHY skeptics" - go read this in its entirety!

I did not come here to fight. - I just have no time for "challenges" from the "challenged", or any who have previously failed to "man up".

FYI - I'll excuse you and welcome you to "Contact" me through the website. That's being reasonable.

Yawn..... so I am refuted thusly? I laugh at you. If you want to pay me my daily consulting fee then I will gladly look at your website and tell you the other places where you have made a foolish error or an ignorant claim. Otherwise, you will have to capture my interest with something other than BS and veiled insults.
And again you lie: you most certainly did come here to fight. But you won't fight fairly, by openly discussing your claims and ideas, refuting your challengers with references and data that can be confirmed.

And YES, your "math" is incorrect because it claims FALSE PRECISION, and I have given you plenty of references as to why and how. No charge for this one, you get another freebie from me.

Offline tinman

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Re: Self Running Motor Generator - for sale in 3 weeks
« Reply #68 on: October 09, 2013, 09:03:00 AM »
Yawn ......... and only because you still have yet to rise up to the challenge put to you, and back on or about August 09, 2013.

Please recall the one wherein I wrote: "Let's see you show the math to be incorrect. With or without any digits of precision."

Did you do that? Can you? ....... Respectfully I do not think you can - or you would have already jumped on that opportunity.

I am going to repeat myself to ANY and ALL "UNHEALTHY skeptics" - go read this in its entirety! http://www.backgauges.com/Gen-E-Sys%20II/skeptic.html
I did not come here to fight. - I just have no time for "challenges" from the "challenged", or any who have previously failed to "man up".

FYI - I'll excuse you and welcome you to "Contact" me through the website. That's being reasonable.
Your a true peanut TV,nothing more.
The reason you wont show anything that is OU,is because you have nothing that is OU-never did,and never will. Your lies are just to redirect trafic to your website.
You took some one elses work,and called it your own-just to get a name for yourself.Then you start dodging all questions asked of you ,about your device,and answer with dribble.

So why dont !you! just run along now,as we have far to many con men already out there in the FE comunity.
Your first mistake was saying that you had pulled the original apart for part's. Who in there right mind would dissaemble a self running machine for parts??-thats right,one that never had a self runner in the first place.

What you are now,is number one target for those that have had enough of scamers trying to take hard earned cash away from those that know no better.

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Re: Self Running Motor Generator - for sale in 3 weeks
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Re: Self Running Motor Generator - for sale in 3 weeks
« Reply #69 on: October 09, 2013, 01:26:27 PM »
I talked to this guy on Skype.

He doesnt have a working device, he has an idea and needs investors.

Do not give any more attention to temporal.

Back to the original intention of this thread, the Valy machine.

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Re: Self Running Motor Generator - for sale in 3 weeks
« Reply #70 on: October 09, 2013, 04:51:26 PM »
Just see the Valy Machine, and temporal's words as related and a puzzle for you figure out if you got the brains and the tools. IF you think you can do it alone ?

Helping hand should not be reciprocating help. Sometimes you have to raise other people around you and they will raise you afterwards, in gratitude. You are turning this concept upside down.

So many ways to be a THINKING man, why bother with OVERUNITY ( Pardon me if I said OVERUNITY  :o :o OOPS!! I meant free energy  ;D ;D) I thought we were ALL created equal no matter if we have such a device or not ?






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Re: Self Running Motor Generator - for sale in 3 weeks
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Re: Self Running Motor Generator - for sale in 3 weeks
« Reply #71 on: October 10, 2013, 12:29:28 AM »
The Valy machine is just as bad if not worse.  It's nothing more than a small electric motor powered from the mains, and then he switches over to the large electric motor powered from the mains.  There is a three second interval where there is no power applied.  It's just a con to get wire transfers of down payment money.  The guy will never deliver anything.  It's just another variation on the Nigerian email scam industry where if you give them all of your banking information including a copy of your signature, you will make hundreds of thousands of dollars in "assisting" a government financial transaction.  The reality is that they will clean out your bank account.

MileHigh

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Re: Self Running Motor Generator - for sale in 3 weeks
« Reply #72 on: November 11, 2013, 11:30:11 AM »
new video released by ValiEnergyStar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qa3MmdqdQ0

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Re: Self Running Motor Generator - for sale in 3 weeks
« Reply #73 on: November 11, 2013, 04:22:01 PM »
Hey,he even went to the trouble to paint the concrete floor under the device-while the device was inplace,as he painted the timber under the legs aswel lol.

I also see the upgrade-we now have a blue welder stuck on the side of the frame-looks flash.

Come on guys-this one has to be for real.
I mean ,it has bearings, and belts, and motors, and flywheels,and a speacial box where all the magic happens-it's even got two switch boards.

I wonder if he would agree to mount it on a trailor,so as once its up and running,he could wheel it out of the shed-then i would take a little more notice.
But hey,nothing like watching a comedy at 11pm.

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Re: Self Running Motor Generator - for sale in 3 weeks
« Reply #74 on: November 12, 2013, 05:24:45 AM »
Looks to me like it's based on the Bedini Watson motor of 1984, so it's patent free (if Bedini patented it).
Romero, do you have any plans to visit Romania in the near future?
Most of us would trust your opinion.
Thanks for posting the link.

 

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