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johnny874

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Explanations
« on: December 01, 2012, 05:59:38 PM »
The basic principle that Johann Bessler may have been trying to convey in this picture is simple.
A weight hanging froma fulcrum has downward force. And if the weight is allowed to swing on it's fulcrum as a pendulum will do when it's fulcrum rotates past top center ona wheel, it will also have lateral force.
And as 2 opposing levers would cancel each others behavior, the question then would be how much force is required to rotate 2 such arms with weights ?
If the force necessary is less than the lateral force of a swinging weight, then such potential exists within the "frame work" of his drawing.

Jim

edited to add Bessler's drawing. the arrows show the directions that his weight would have useable force.

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Re: Explanations
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2012, 05:53:27 PM »
reposted from besslerwheel.com.
 As Stefan has asked me to make some more videos about what Bessler knew, I will do so.
This will give someone the opportunity to complete a Bessler type wheel before I do and I hope they are someone who has not been critical of my work on Bessler. That is about all I ask as my build will take some time to complete. In a way, it is my homeage (way of showing respect for Bessler and his work) to Bessler.
 The 3 videos in the thread are each a part of what bessler had incorporated into one or all of his wheels. An example is, not all of his wheels had their weights working together. This would be why one of them made a loud kncking noise 8 times per rotation.
 The wheels he demonstrated can probably be seperated one from another so his work might be better understood, basically as he realized more about his wheels and made improvements to them.
Quote from: daanopperman
daxwc ,
             The pendulum will destroy the wheel if any decrease or increase in wheel rpm takes place .
   daanopperman,
  I'll give away what Bessler has said many times, the weights work together. When both pendulums are falling together, one on each side of the wheel, their blows to the wheel will be cushioned by the water they are pumping.
 This also allows the pendulum moving upwards towards top center to do as much work as the one moving downward not wasting any potential.
 With a 4:1 ratio and to weights working together, the ratio baloons up to 8:1. And if you have as an example 98n-m's of torque, it would easily move 5kg's of water.
 The torque would be equivalent to 10 kg's at 1 meter. It would take 1.25 kg's at a ratio of 8:1 to generate that much force.
 And as Bessler would say, simple enough for him to understand. I'm still amazed by what the guy knew.
 Kind of why I am willing to spend the money and what time it takes me, his work is worth more than what it will cost me  :-)
edited to add, when Bessler said he made more pulleys and levers, the pulleys would be for connecting the levers/pendulums so they work together. Where you have pulley's, you also have lines/chords/ropes, etc.
edited to add; Stefan Hartmann, moderator of overunity.com has let me know he is interested in seeing me post more videos detailing different aspects of Bessler's wheel. Since it will take time for the build I am doing, I will in the next week r so be posting some vidoes show how Bessler's water pumps worked as well as how his levers/penulums might have worked together. I have let Stefan know that I think Bessler would be something close to a genius for the work he accomplished.
 
                                                                 Jim
edited to add; made a quick video showing how 2 opposing levers move in a wheel and suggest how they might work together.
 The other links are for how much over balance is required to rotate a wheel and also a demonstration of a basic water pump shooting water which Bessler did mention that his weights "shot out".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFE9Gz8A-c8&feature=youtu.be
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJRhqXdRrbg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOl2dJaavS8
with pumps, when one pumps or discharges, it will be into another pump above it on the wheel. If you watch the first link, imagine as the wheel rotating that it is constantly pumping water upwards into an empty chamber. And once you can understand that, then you can start to understand everything Bessler said. And hopefully everything he wrote won't be made known so some people can realize some things for themselves.