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Author Topic: Keppe is headed to the big show, First exotic product to market  (Read 22769 times)

Offline ramset

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Re: Keppe is headed to the big show, First exotic product to market
« Reply #45 on: September 15, 2013, 05:28:51 PM »
MH
I Like you I always have, your input is always appreciated.
""It is hoped that some preliminary third party evaluations can be performed to establish the Claims validity and scope prior to arranging the "University" testing .""
 
If after the above Is performed to ""proper"" standards there is something showing promise.
 
The Universities will beat the path to Keppe .......not Vice versa.
 
I suppose that is self evident.
 
Thx
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Re: Keppe is headed to the big show, First exotic product to market
« Reply #46 on: September 15, 2013, 05:45:45 PM »
Chet:

Okay I get your point.  You need to see third-party evaluations showing something interesting first.

I think that you are going to find that you are in a kind of Catch-22 situation there.  The Keppe people will not permit their fan to be evaluated by a qualified third party.  That would spill the beans right there and show that they have nothing special.

Take your cue from Bob Rohner and his ridiculous plasma pulse motor.  I haven't checked his crowd funding page recently but he may have gotten $3K out of the $200K (?) he was asking for.

You ask Bob Rohner about output vs. input power measurements and he will either say that he will be doing them soon or he is not qualified to do them himself.  So he has intentionally delaying doing proper measurements on his system for 30 years.  He doesn't want to make measurements because they would show that he has nothing and that would stop him cold in his racks.  No more going to the trough, no more begging, no more crowd funding.

Expect the same thing for the Keppe cultists.

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Re: Keppe is headed to the big show, First exotic product to market
« Reply #47 on: September 15, 2013, 07:48:27 PM »
MH
I have read the Keppe pages associated with their "belief system"
They cling to High personal standards and Moral ground and have instituted all manner of checks and balances in their daily lives and business practices so as to maintain
impeccable character within their ranks
 
I will be shocked if they would not tolerate an honest third party examination !
 
Stupified Even.........
 
By the way, As of this Date they are completely ready and willing.
 
Thx
Chet

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Re: Keppe is headed to the big show, First exotic product to market
« Reply #47 on: September 15, 2013, 07:48:27 PM »
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Offline MileHigh

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Re: Keppe is headed to the big show, First exotic product to market
« Reply #48 on: September 15, 2013, 10:03:33 PM »
Chet:

I seem to recall a fair amount of pseudoscience talk when they discussed the actual pulse motor for the table fan.  Including something about making cats purr and stopping babies from crying if I recall correctly.  To me that means that they will be on a collision course if any serious and reputable people analyze their new fan.

Best of luck.

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Re: Keppe is headed to the big show, First exotic product to market
« Reply #49 on: September 16, 2013, 01:51:37 AM »
MH
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""serious and reputable people""
 
Anything less would be a serious waste of everyones time!
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Re: Keppe is headed to the big show, First exotic product to market
« Reply #49 on: September 16, 2013, 01:51:37 AM »
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Offline CuriousChris

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Re: Keppe is headed to the big show, First exotic product to market
« Reply #50 on: September 16, 2013, 11:01:11 AM »
@chet

Milehigh is on the money here. If you think about it what have they said?

"We have a fan that uses less power than other fans."

There is no context. compared to what other fans? what was the power requirement for the other fan, what was the power output of the fan, how was it measured?

"Look we can plug in some LED's and the power doesn't change"

Wow! Well perhaps that's because the fan base has batteries in it. perhaps the wiring is rigged perhaps the LED's are powered from a different source all together. Who cares anyway, LED's don't use much power its pretty negligable and yes it could be driven off the back emf of an inefficient motor. Even one that's more efficient than the cheap mass produced rubbish they say they are comparing it to.

Why even use a fan as the comparison? Why not use the motor to do a simple task like lift a 1 kilogram weight 1 metre in x seconds. Then you can get a real sense of what power its putting out and it is as simple as connecting the motor to a bicycle wheel with a weight and a piece of string. I have done that before to do very quick tests of theories.

Introducing the fan into the equation can be nothing more than misdirection. In fact its so stupid it must be deliberate misdirection.

Currently electric motor efficiency can be around 97% with careful design.  So to improve that by 4 fold means overunity. Do you think any reputable organisation is going to take longer than say 5 seconds to dismiss it as being worth looking at, and based on what? a spinning fan.

Lastly I am sure they are great honest people. That doesn't mean they are not clueless. some of the nicest people I have met are particularly clueless. And if you are in it for the money it pays to appear nice and honest.

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Re: Keppe is headed to the big show, First exotic product to market
« Reply #51 on: September 16, 2013, 05:14:08 PM »


"We have a fan that uses less power than other fans."


There are no short cuts.

They should power the unit from a battery and measure over a period of time the reduction in its content whilst measuring the power output to a prony brake or alternator.

Any 5th form Physics pupil could tell them this and/or do it for them.

My guess is that they have, and have found that it has a respectable efficiency but no OU.


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Re: Keppe is headed to the big show, First exotic product to market
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Offline lancaIV

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Re: Keppe is headed to the big show, First exotic product to market
« Reply #52 on: September 19, 2013, 11:00:56 AM »
common Q.  ??? :     What can we do with a Keppe-motor-fan and other TMs-fans ?
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Re: Keppe is headed to the big show, First exotic product to market
« Reply #53 on: September 19, 2013, 11:56:52 AM »
common Q.  ??? :     What can we do with a Keppe-motor-fan and other TMs-fans ?
dwilson   A. ::)  :       http://www.patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=9318


LOL too funny :)

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Re: Keppe is headed to the big show, First exotic product to market
« Reply #53 on: September 19, 2013, 11:56:52 AM »
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Re: Keppe is headed to the big show, First exotic product to market
« Reply #54 on: September 27, 2013, 11:34:02 AM »
An update on keppe.
Here is there description of the differences between the keppe motor,newman,and berdini/cole motors.
Oh dear ::)
http://keppemotorclub.bestforumpro.com/t25-basic-differences-between-newman-and-bedini-cole-motors-and-the-keppe-motor

And here is an up and rising star over on my forum.
4xAAAA fan
Look out keppe-the beginers are on your tail.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-m7ZuPiMRPg

 

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