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Author Topic: Keppe is headed to the big show, First exotic product to market  (Read 22764 times)

Offline Pirate88179

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Re: Keppe is headed to the big show, First exotic product to market
« Reply #15 on: September 11, 2013, 03:37:07 AM »
Possibly Sterling will receive a fan for his home and he can run his house from it?
If this stuff didn't repeat so often with him, you might think there was actually something to it.  I had hoped he had learned a thing or two from prior incidents.  Evidently not.

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Re: Keppe is headed to the big show, First exotic product to market
« Reply #16 on: September 11, 2013, 04:03:32 AM »
@ MH
well said
I get into so much trouble for being too hard on Sterling. What amazes me he still can get about $2000 plus every time he puts the hat out
Mark

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Re: Keppe is headed to the big show, First exotic product to market
« Reply #17 on: September 11, 2013, 04:52:27 AM »
If the Fan does the work of an average ceiling fan while only using 10 watts ,that would be something people will buy.
I will call them tommorow and ask how they established this claim .
I see they refer to some test Standards which the fan exceeds [could be a paint standard for all I know].
 
 Perhaps the "Linga" has met some fellows in China that know how to do a good
Test?
 
Thx
Chet
 
 
 

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Re: Keppe is headed to the big show, First exotic product to market
« Reply #18 on: September 11, 2013, 05:36:19 AM »
@Ramset
Hi Chet I received this from Sterling so it answers your question.
Hi Mark,

As far as I know, the Keppe ceiling fan manufacturer doesn't have the cfm/W
data yet.  The next steps will be to do the production prototype engineering
and then get the certifications needed.


Offline tinman

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Re: Keppe is headed to the big show, First exotic product to market
« Reply #19 on: September 11, 2013, 07:38:13 AM »
If i had the spare cash,i'd buy one of the fan kit's.Then we could do some real power calculation's.
The next step would be to convert a standard off the shelf motor to achieve better result's.
This wouldnt take year's to do (as claimed by keppe reserch teams),infact 1 day would be all that is needed.Once we have a kit of the keppe fan,we then have the very fan blade we need to carry out the ! one against the other ! test.
But due to the PMBO donation's,and having to shift house very soon-i have used up all my play money lol.But given a couple of months,i should be able to purchase one-then we can get very accurate measurements.
So for the time being,we will have to rely on the information avalible on the keppe motor video's.

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Re: Keppe is headed to the big show, First exotic product to market
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Re: Keppe is headed to the big show, First exotic product to market
« Reply #20 on: September 11, 2013, 02:18:35 PM »
TinMan
Oh I think we can get you one sooner then That..........
 
Their entire marketing approach and reason for manufacturing is based on "Exotic technology"
capable of doing the seemingly impossibe.
 
They absolutely most step up to the plate if they are to be taken seriously,as Sterling says the first run of 100,000 pieces is a hugh commitment that adds credibility to Keppe's claim.
 
It is also a hugh Liability if not properly Vetted..........
thx
Chet

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Re: Keppe is headed to the big show, First exotic product to market
« Reply #21 on: September 11, 2013, 03:49:14 PM »
The only thing they really want to sell is the ridiculous "advanced fan manufacturing manual". After many clicks and "agreements" your will find that it only costs $75.--

http://www.keppemotor.com/en/storemanualfan.php

http://www.keppemotor.com/en/keppemotorstore.php

I ordered 10 of these manuals and will start my own fan business. I am not doing it for the money, just for world peace and enlightenment. I also want to save the 300 metre long sweet water whales which frolic in the Austrian mountain lakes. ;)

Greetings, Conrad

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Re: Keppe is headed to the big show, First exotic product to market
« Reply #22 on: September 11, 2013, 10:04:54 PM »
http://www.keppemotor.com/en/3-3.php
an example for measuring.


Sincerely
              CdL

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Re: Keppe is headed to the big show, First exotic product to market
« Reply #23 on: September 12, 2013, 09:53:48 AM »
http://www.keppemotor.com/en/3-3.php
an example for measuring.


Sincerely
              CdL

Hi lancaIV, The only flaw I can see in that measurement and test protocol is that the inverter will not allow any reactive power back to the supply, the battery. The inverter also has overhead losses which are accounted for going by the 10% figure adjustment. However if the fan has a power factor of 0.90 when plugged into the wall some energy is returned to the supply when plugged into the wall, then if used from an inverter the energy is lost rather than returned to the supply. The power factor of the unmodified fan must also be considered which would be a complicated calculation considering time extensions on top of more time extensions kind of thing.

Maybe one of the Engineers could chime in here.

Anyway most of us only care about the over 100% efficiency claims. Does the Keppe motor produce more work than it costs to run it ?

Cheers 

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Re: Keppe is headed to the big show, First exotic product to market
« Reply #24 on: September 12, 2013, 03:43:20 PM »
Farmhand
Here is one quick analysis from One Of "OUR" Fiends.
 
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A really bad protocol. Depending on the inverter used and how deeply it was loaded compared to it's rating, the inverter could have been highly inefficient compared to the load, 50% or more. e.g. If the inverter draws 2 amps at idle and we attach a 2 amp load, the 4 plus amps that will be drawn pits 50% inverter loss and 50% delivered to the AC fan motor.

If you absolutely had to have inverters, they should have been applied to both batteries, and one output could have been rectified. But this is an all around bad way to compare things in this day and age of cheap elapsed killowatt meters with power factor correction.

Also comparing a really cheap AC induction motor to a DC motor is not comparing apples to oranges. They need to test against a good DC motor and eliminate the inverter.

So no need for batteries or inverters, an elapsed killowatt meter will separate the men from the boys.

Possibly a rigged race. Real tests for motors provide torque/speed/power family of curves which are standard in the industry.
 
Graph attached.
End Quote......

 
 
 
 
 

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Re: Keppe is headed to the big show, First exotic product to market
« Reply #25 on: September 12, 2013, 04:21:56 PM »
What i need is the fan modle they used,so as i can get the right blade they used.Even better would be one of there kit's,but that isnt going to happen any time soon.
So any one that has any info on the standard fan they used in there comparison video,would be of great help.Also there latest test videos would be good to.

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Re: Keppe is headed to the big show, First exotic product to market
« Reply #26 on: September 12, 2013, 05:32:58 PM »
http://www.keppemotor.com/pt/informacoes-tecnicas.php


They do not give more detailed information !
It will be easier to ask them directly about the wished technical details !


Sincerely
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p.s.I: #23/24: they only calculated with 10% inverter losses for the conventional fan
p.s.II :Farmhand,reading your Energeticforum-keppemotor-input (05-02-2013)
here my "resonant charging circuit" response,also for pulse motors
 [size=78%]http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20100114&CC=WO&NR=2010003394A2&KC=A2[/size]

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Re: Keppe is headed to the big show, First exotic product to market
« Reply #27 on: September 12, 2013, 07:07:21 PM »
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It will be easier to ask them directly about the wished technical details
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Sir thank you for the info ,and yes I will be calling their "Factory" in the next few days..

Chet

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Re: Keppe is headed to the big show, First exotic product to market
« Reply #28 on: September 13, 2013, 03:22:06 AM »
http://www.keppemotor.com/pt/informacoes-tecnicas.php


They do not give more detailed information !
It will be easier to ask them directly about the wished technical details !


Sincerely
              CdL

p.s.I: #23/24: they only calculated with 10% inverter losses for the conventional fan
p.s.II :Farmhand,reading your Energeticforum-keppemotor-input (05-02-2013)
here my "resonant charging circuit" response,also for pulse motors
 [size=78%]http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20100114&CC=WO&NR=2010003394A2&KC=A2[/size]

My motor doesn't use capacitive windings it uses capacitors and normal coils. No bifilarly wound coils in my setup just regular windings in parallel for less resistance considering the wire I used, the capacitance secured in a bifilar coil would be nowhere near the 330 uF my charging coils discharge into. My motor is still in development, i just don't have the time to work on it I am too ill and too busy. I have serious health issues. Debilitating health issues. I get sine waves on the capacitors the charging coils dump into and the charging coils help drive the rotor. The capacitance is separate from the coils. I am using two 330 uF caps one for each motor coil and a dual parallel winding charging coil
I would like to see someone create 660 uF capacitance in a bifilarly wound coil.

Anyway the description tells of a coil itself with an inductive reactance of zero. Mine does not, it does has inductive reactance. It needs the reactance and delay to create the second delayed driving phase I've never seen that patent before and I don't believe it describes my concept. My motor makes two offset phases of driving forces on the rotor the power is delivered to the rotor in two separate phases from one input pulse.

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20100114&CC=WO&NR=2010003394A2&KC=A2

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The invention relates to a capacitive winding which is made of copper wire, has an inductive reactance of zero, is composed of two parallel conductors (1, 2),

And before anyone says, yes the current does stop in both coils when the motor is operated in its optimum "window". however it can be pushed past that by increasing the voltage.

I did make a mistake in the regular version with no charging coil as the inductor between the return cap and the supply cap will not allow the charging then dumping of the return cap, however that is easily rectified by using more inductance in that extra inductor or a switch if not using a charging circuit, if using the charging circuit that inductor is unnecessary. You must remember I am and was working while on heavy medications for my debilitating illness and was pushing the limits of my physical and mental endurance. But I did produce a working prototype even though it is not ideal by a long way it is the concept I wanted to get out there. Someone will probably patent it, Not my fault I shared. Next time I have an idea I might just keep it to myself considering the amount of wasted effort I outlaid to try to convey my intentions. The second driving phase in my setup has similar drive to the actual drive coils. The charging coils are not capacitor coils.

Cheers

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Re: Keppe is headed to the big show, First exotic product to market
« Reply #29 on: September 13, 2013, 11:03:23 AM »
@Farmhand: I did not write that anybody has "occupied/plagiated" your idea I showed you only a feedback circuit wich uses your so called "resonant charging"!


The slowakian inventor Pavel Imris works since several decades in this technical area !

This "windings with capacitors=capacitive windings ;) "-concept has been adapted to several conventional motors but the technicians has not been good enough to reach the theoretical-mathematical efficiency point  ???


"You must remember .." this point let me remembering about the JackH-story several years before.
I did not know before your last post about your personal health issues !


 

Sincerely
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