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Author Topic: Proof of Overunity From Magnets Fixture, No Negative Work Aspect, LaFonte  (Read 57980 times)

gammarayburst

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Re: Proof of Overunity From Magnets Fixture, No Negative Work Aspect, LaFonte
« Reply #90 on: October 20, 2013, 02:53:55 AM »
@GammaRayBurst

I have a question, that I am not sure if you know the answer to or not.

Please see the attached file "PsuSol3.JPEG" drawings and question.

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Floor, Yes I would think so. The magnets without the plates for sure would want to so I think they would want to with the plates attached.
Butch

gammarayburst

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Ok, this should do it
« Reply #91 on: October 20, 2013, 02:57:33 AM »
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gammarayburst

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Additional note for previous post
« Reply #92 on: October 20, 2013, 03:04:55 AM »
Note that section A and B could be just two separate plate sets of any length and do not have to be divided into smaller sections as shown.
[size=78%]Thanks,[/size]
Butch LaFonte

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Up dated drawing
« Reply #93 on: October 20, 2013, 03:55:58 AM »
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Second reply to Floor
« Reply #94 on: October 20, 2013, 04:04:19 AM »
Floor, Yes I would think so. The magnets without the plates for sure would want to so I think they would want to with the plates attached.
Butch
Floor, I think the plate set would rotate if hinged in the middle but would stop when set went from repulsion to attraction mode. I am thinking that would vary with the geometry of the plate. I doubt it would do a total 180 degree flip.  Maybe more like 45 degrees?
Butch LaFonte

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Re: Proof of Overunity From Magnets Fixture, No Negative Work Aspect, LaFonte
« Reply #95 on: October 20, 2013, 06:52:28 PM »
@ GammaRayBurst

Floor, I think the plate set would rotate if hinged in the middle but would stop when set went from repulsion to attraction mode. I am thinking that would vary with the geometry of the plate. I doubt it would do a total 180 degree flip.  Maybe more like 45 degrees?
Butch LaFonte

MAGNETS would flip to 90 deg,  if hinged,  or if upon an axle.  I don't know if the two magnets and  plates in (SET B) would behave the same way....  But I think they would also rotate 90 deg. off.

Also I wonder if the magnets in (SET B) could be easily reversed (pseudo solid fashion) WHILE AT 90 DEG. TO (SETS A and C)?
Considering that they would  be under the influence of both (SETS A  and C) ? If so,  (SET B) could then rotate an additional 90 deg. and so on.

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gammarayburst

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Re: Proof of Overunity From Magnets Fixture, No Negative Work Aspect, LaFonte
« Reply #96 on: October 20, 2013, 08:18:34 PM »
@ GammaRayBurst

Floor, I think the plate set would rotate if hinged in the middle but would stop when set went from repulsion to attraction mode. I am thinking that would vary with the geometry of the plate. I doubt it would do a total 180 degree flip.  Maybe more like 45 degrees?
Butch LaFonte

MAGNETS would flip to 90 deg,  if hinged,  or if upon an axle.  I don't know if the two magnets and  plates in (SET B) would behave the same way....  But I think they would also rotate 90 deg. off.

Also I wonder if the magnets in (SET B) could be easily reversed (pseudo solid fashion) WHILE AT 90 DEG. TO (SETS A and C)?
Considering that they would  be under the influence of both (SETS A  and C) ? If so,  (SET B) could then rotate an additional 90 deg. and so on.

                  Thanks for your time/response
                         Keep up the good work
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Floor, I will do a test and see just exactly what will happen. It's a very interesting question you have come up with.
Butch

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Re: Proof of Overunity From Magnets Fixture, No Negative Work Aspect, LaFonte
« Reply #97 on: October 21, 2013, 01:55:57 AM »
@GammaRayBurst

Hey, thank you for the response.  Based upon your last set of drawings posted,  it looks to me like you've got it worked out.  I hope my ideas will not be a distraction from where yours are going.  This might be premature, but congratulations. 

I presume that the ends of the bar sets"A and B" IN YOUR LAST DRAWINGS, where they touch each other, will need to be very flat.  I have some ideas about this,  I will do some drawings and post them when I have time.

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Re: Proof of Overunity From Magnets Fixture, No Negative Work Aspect, LaFonte
« Reply #98 on: October 21, 2013, 05:28:03 PM »
@GammaRayBurst

Please fin the attached Jpg file "pseudo solid lap joint"

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gammarayburst

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Floor, there may be something hidden in the question you asked!
« Reply #99 on: October 22, 2013, 06:05:09 PM »
@GammaRayBurst

I have a question, that I am not sure if you know the answer to or not.

Please see the attached file "PsuSol3.JPEG" drawings and question.

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Floor, I made a big mistake when looking at your drawing the first time. I thought that all magnets were in repulsion. I can't believe I didn't look close enough to see that each plate set has two magnets in attraction to each other. This way I hate to say the flux will flow in a straight path between plate magnet sets and run parallel to the next plate set magnets and not offer much repulsion. But, I think I see a design coming out of this that would really open up " Pseudo Solid Principle " so the public will be able to grasp it. I will make a drawing and post.
Butch
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gammarayburst

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Re: Proof of Overunity From Magnets Fixture, No Negative Work Aspect, LaFonte
« Reply #100 on: October 22, 2013, 08:12:09 PM »
@GammaRayBurst

Please fin the attached Jpg file "pseudo solid lap joint"

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That is a very good idea floor, it just may be an improvement. Much appreciate your input and help with the Pseudo Solid principle.
Butch

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Re: Proof of Overunity From Magnets Fixture, No Negative Work Aspect, LaFonte
« Reply #101 on: December 19, 2013, 10:28:21 PM »
See attached

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Re: Proof of Overunity From Magnets Fixture, No Negative Work Aspect, LaFonte
« Reply #102 on: January 01, 2014, 08:01:28 PM »
@Gammarayburst

Greetings

    Have you looked at ferro fluids as lubricants / magnetic field transfer mediums  (wikkipedia)


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norman6538

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Butch and others I think there is some material of interest in this thread.

http://www.overunity.com/14876/permanent-magnet-ou-machine-working-today/new/#new

I have achieved OU of 170% and there is an annimation showing the basic
principle of my working device.

Norman

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@Norman6538

Thanks bud.

Were watching.

I'll have a few questions for you when I have time / get done
with some personal business.

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