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Author Topic: Rosemary Ainslie Quantum Magazine Circuit COP > 17 Claims  (Read 249659 times)

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie Quantum Magazine Circuit COP > 17 Claims
« Reply #330 on: February 01, 2014, 05:33:31 AM »
No, Rose will use something else like white oil, liquid paraffin,, pariffinum liquidum, and liquid petroleum or Baby oil so as to not replicate TK's work.  However, all of the above are other names for mineral oil but, let's not let the facts enter into this.  She never has before.  She will claim that she discovered this new liquid that is easy to measure temperature rise.  Just watch.

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie Quantum Magazine Circuit COP > 17 Claims
« Reply #331 on: February 01, 2014, 05:13:55 PM »
I hope she does use Castrol GTX. May I suggest 20W-50?

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Castrol GTX motor oil consists of two main ingredients. There's base oil (85-90%) and performance additives (10-15%).  Pay attention now because you never know when a buddy with a dirty, clogged-up engine might ask.  The base oil is derived from crude oil.

http://www.castrol.com/castrol/genericarticle.do?categoryId=9014502&contentId=7017078

http://datasheets.bp.com/ussds/amersdsf.nsf/0/740CD019AA22FD6A80257B5800527847/$file/197834Castrol%20GTX%20High%20Mileage%2020W-50.pdf

How much energy does it take to raise the temperature of one gram of Castrol GTX by one degree C?

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie Quantum Magazine Circuit COP > 17 Claims
« Reply #332 on: February 01, 2014, 08:46:55 PM »
No, Rose will use something else like white oil, liquid paraffin,, pariffinum liquidum, and liquid petroleum or Baby oil so as to not replicate TK's work.  However, all of the above are other names for mineral oil but, let's not let the facts enter into this.  She never has before.  She will claim that she discovered this new liquid that is easy to measure temperature rise.  Just watch.

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Bill if she uses any fluid that is clear and insulating, that has sufficient dielectric strength for the voltages she applies and  that does not have such a high dielectric constant or dielectric loss so as to cause problems then she will be able to show her unit operating and she will be able to measure the heat evolved from everything that she submerges in the fluid from the fluid temperature rise.  Since they don't know anything about the electrical properties of materials they would be wise to use a material that is well understood and has been used by others such as mineral oil poured into a clean dry vessel.   My guess is that they thought about using motor oil because they were unfamiliar with mineral oil. 

To Ms. Ainslie and her supporters:  There are hobbyists who submerge entire PC motherboards in mineral oil "aquariums" and circulate the mineral oil for cooling.  Mineral oil is one homogenous electrically well understood material.  It is readily available, and will meet your needs far better than a non-homogenous material such as motor oil. 

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie Quantum Magazine Circuit COP > 17 Claims
« Reply #332 on: February 01, 2014, 08:46:55 PM »
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Re: Rosemary Ainslie Quantum Magazine Circuit COP > 17 Claims
« Reply #333 on: February 01, 2014, 10:56:15 PM »
Bill if she uses any fluid that is clear and insulating, that has sufficient dielectric strength for the voltages she applies and  that does not have such a high dielectric constant or dielectric loss so as to cause problems then she will be able to show her unit operating and she will be able to measure the heat evolved from everything that she submerges in the fluid from the fluid temperature rise.  Since they don't know anything about the electrical properties of materials they would be wise to use a material that is well understood and has been used by others such as mineral oil poured into a clean dry vessel.   My guess is that they thought about using motor oil because they were unfamiliar with mineral oil. 

To Ms. Ainslie and her supporters:  There are hobbyists who submerge entire PC motherboards in mineral oil "aquariums" and circulate the mineral oil for cooling.  Mineral oil is one homogenous electrically well understood material.  It is readily available, and will meet your needs far better than a non-homogenous material such as motor oil.

Mark:

As always, I am still learning.  Before I made the above post I looked up mineral oil and found all of the other names it goes by.  (I had no idea) I was amazed to find that baby oil is just mineral oil with a scent added.  My bet is that Rose will use mineral oil, which has proven thermal properties, which is good.  I was just speculating that she would call it something else so as to not appear be taking TK's suggestion.  I was also guessing that she might not know all of those other names for the same oil.  A good test with good scientific practices is always welcome, and I do hope that she does this.

Bill

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie Quantum Magazine Circuit COP > 17 Claims
« Reply #334 on: February 01, 2014, 11:22:00 PM »
Bill, the one thing that I disagree with TinselKoala on is Ms. Ainslie's faith in her claims.  I think that she really believes them.  That leads me to believe that she really does expect some experiment to vindicate her ideas.  I believe that she is motivated to try as she can to conduct legitimate experiments. 

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie Quantum Magazine Circuit COP > 17 Claims
« Reply #335 on: February 02, 2014, 01:14:21 AM »
I'm sorry that I gave the impression that I might not think Ainslie _believes_ in her claims.

Of course she believes them! She believes in her "thesis" so strongly that she is willing to distort experimental results so that they fit her ideas; she routinely ignores data that falsifies her conjectures due to the opacity of her belief system. She distorts descriptions of events, gets all kinds of details wrong, refuses to correct her obvious errors, and still clings to the conclusions she drew from the horrible computations that I have illustrated, even though she knows that the calculations are wrong. (She can't produce the correct calculations from the data, though, since she still confounds the Joule with the Watt, and simply multiplies everything in sight until she gets an adequately large number.)

If she is now willing to perform adequate experiments and measurements, this is something that is new to her psyche; for the last 5 years at least, people have been giving her advice as to how to do it properly and, until her association with Steve Weir, she has always either flatly refused, stalled indefinitely, or completely botched the process, as when she went out and bought a big expensive motor-start capacitor when Poynt99 was trying to get her to filter her battery supply measurements with appropriate capacitors -- in spite of his providing exact specs and even part numbers for her to order. The idea of doing a literature search, to see how other people do simple calorimetry with precision and accuracy, is completely foreign to her.

I'm all for her using proper experimental technique. That's what I've been trying to demonstrate for years in my videos concerning Ainslie's claims. But she refuses even to believe that my approach or my demonstrations are scientific! Just look at the insults she levies against me, without even knowing what my videos contain. It's laughable in the extreme! She has no clue what the Scientific Method actually means.

One thing is certain: it will be hard for them to top the high comedies of the June 29 and August 11 demonstrations. But I'm eagerly awaiting their next chapter. Here's my prediction: we will see stalling, and delayed reports if any at all, because if they _do_ manage to do some proper work, they'll find _YET AGAIN_ that there is no OU, no unusual behaviour, nothing, nichego, zip, zilch. Nothing but Ainslie's fantasy. Not even this will deter her, though.

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie Quantum Magazine Circuit COP > 17 Claims
« Reply #336 on: February 02, 2014, 03:41:16 AM »
Ms. Ainslie says that she is going to seek Steve's blessing on whatever test set-up that she decides to use.  When I saw him at DesignCon last week, Steve did not mention anything about this.  He told me that the last time he had heard from Ms. Ainslie was around Thanksgiving. 

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie Quantum Magazine Circuit COP > 17 Claims
« Reply #337 on: February 05, 2014, 04:22:10 PM »
Ainslie continues to emit statements that reveal her willfull ignorance and her overweening arrogance.

As anyone _except Ainslie_ knows, I've been using mineral oil for proper thermometric testing of her claims for YEARS, and demonstrating the same on YouTube videos.

Her continuing attacks upon me, her false claims and libels concerning me, have attained such proportions that not even her erotic fascinations with my pickle or my GRE scores can keep up with them. She continues to make a total laughingstock of herself with these absurd pronouncements and restatements of her own ignorance.

Just for example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LMthOsvbVU  (April 12, 2012)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xs_ZsGhK9o  (May 20, 2012)


And of course the graph below, which I have reproduced here several times, is from data obtained from the single-mosfet circuit in 2009.

All throughout this project, from the beginning of my involvement in 2009, I have produced more accurate, more relevant, and procedurally correct temperature data than Ainslie has _EVER_ shown.... since all of her reported temperature data comes from the incredibly naive direct attachment of her thermocouple to the metal housing of the resistor element, dangling in mid-air or perhaps inserted, _after already heating up_ , into a plastic jug of water. By her own admission, Ainslie NEVER actually measured the temperature of the water, in spite of the direct, and false, claims in the daft manuscripts concerning water temperature.

Once again, Ainslie simply lies arrogantly when she misrepresents my work, just as she has done many times before ... or continues to emit her silly statements out of pure willfull ignorance. Or both.






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Re: Rosemary Ainslie Quantum Magazine Circuit COP > 17 Claims
« Reply #338 on: February 05, 2014, 05:48:20 PM »
On record. Yes, indeed... the record shows who is right and who is wrong, and about what.

Ainslie is utterly wrong, and has never been able to refute a single fact that I illustrate in my videos. How could she--- she doesn't even know what they contain, and probably couldn't understand them if she _ever did_ watch them, even though a bright eighth grader probably could.

Ainslie has YET AGAIN made statements that are easily demonstrated to be utterly WRONG. She has emitted so many such statements that it is impossible to count them all. Practically with every post she makes she makes YET ANOTHER lie, YET ANOTHER misrepresentation, YET ANOTHER simply WRONG statement. Many times, as at present, she piles them up until practically every _sentence_ of her posts contain these silly and idiotic "mistakes".

Ainslie has no basis for objecting to any of the work of her critics, because she simply has not the educational background or the practical experience necessary to do so. She cannot even follow the simple math, nor understand explanations of common terminology of her chosen topic as given in textbooks or even on Wikipedia. We've demonstrated this utter ignorance of hers many times, using her own words. "No such animal as inductive reactance!" "A Joule is a Watt, the terms are interchangeable!"  "Castrol GTX !" If I listed them all in one place it would take pages.

Her only real contribution to the research concerning her claims is the comedy value. Literally _everything_ we actually know and trust about the Quantum single mosfet circuit, the later circuit that appears in the Box today, and the 5 mosfet circuit is _in spite_ of Ainslie herself, and actually comes from her strongest critics. Ainslie has contributed literally nothing to the understanding, except lots of LOLs.

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie Quantum Magazine Circuit COP > 17 Claims
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Re: Rosemary Ainslie Quantum Magazine Circuit COP > 17 Claims
« Reply #339 on: February 05, 2014, 06:53:18 PM »
TinselKoala it is plain as day that in your various videos you state that you use mineral oil in your heater vessels.  I guess you could have used a: ladle or honey dipper to visibly demonstrate the viscosity of the oil.

The good news is that Ms. Ainslie says that she is going to use mineral oil.  The not so good news is her declaration that she does not intend to perform rigorous tests.  I think that she should reconsider.  She is already going to take considerable time and expense to do her new tests.  It is not particularly more difficult to perform rigorous tests that would be accurate to a few percent than it is to conduct sloppy tests that suffer very poor accuracy.  She can use your videos as a guide on how to perform good quality tests at low expense and moderate effort.

She is talking about using a liter vessel.  That will hold one of her heater elements, but will not hold the existing circuit board.  The perforated paperboard material if immersed will also absorb quite a bit of oil.  So I think the plan is to just immerse the heater element of the existing circuit and compare that to an immersed control experiment resistor.  In that case, she is going to find out rather quickly that the results replicate the ~20% power efficiency measured August 11.

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie Quantum Magazine Circuit COP > 17 Claims
« Reply #340 on: February 05, 2014, 08:01:46 PM »
Here's an example of how Ainslie's belief system causes her to emit silly claim after ridiculous claim. Do check out the videos she has linked in the posts imaged below:

http://www.overunity.com/14071/simple-overunity-electricity/msg378493/#msg378493
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uP7yOFIHJPA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3qF9E_fWCQ


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She also claims that they will be able to produce the continuous oscillations using the main batteries alone:

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THEN.  We'll be redoing our Q-array tests with ESPECIAL emphasis on Test 3 paper 1.  But this time we propose to apply a continual negative signal to Q1 - to induce a perpetual oscillation.  We'll be driving the switch from the same battery supply that powers the resistor.  Here we predict a CONSIDERABLE gain to standard application.  But we'll need to rethink our heat measurements as the applied wattage will be minimal.  That will be the final VINDICATION.

Perhaps she means Q2, but who really knows. If she's talking about "perpetual", that is, continuous Q2 oscillations... once again she will be attempting to replicate work that I did, in 2012 and 2013.  The negative bias supply must come from a source that is _more negative_ than the "same battery supply that powers the resistor". Of course, since Ainslie cannot fathom how a mosfet could be turned on by _lowering source voltage_ while the Gate is pinned to Zero volts, she can't see the difficulties in her proposed operation.

Here's the playlist, AGAIN, where I explain the configuration, how the Q2 mosfets are turned on by lowering the source voltage (that is, applying a "negative signal to Q1 - to induce a perpetual oscillation." The playlist takes the viewer through the entire sequence, breaking it down into the simplest component parts, illustrating each tiny step, in terms even our bright eighth-grader would have no difficulty understanding.

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLml9VdOeqKa8hSDVrRWjmJ2WxgzRvMt7V

And here's the single video from that playlist that pulls it all together, showing how the continuous "perpetual oscillations" are produced... and why a separate current source is needed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kV2ePEbJ76I

(In other videos I demonstrate a simple 555-based Charge Pump Inverter that _does_ allow the main batteries to provide the necessary negative bias current. It will indeed be interesting to see how Ainslie's mob solves this little problem.)

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie Quantum Magazine Circuit COP > 17 Claims
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Re: Rosemary Ainslie Quantum Magazine Circuit COP > 17 Claims
« Reply #341 on: February 05, 2014, 11:10:41 PM »
When Ms. Ainslie says that she will be applying a negative voltage to the gate of Q1 I expect that she means that she will still be using a function generator for that purpose as she has before.  The external power that the function generator supplies as seen August 11 was around 300mW.  It's non-zero but not very significant compared to the ~15W drawn from the batteries, the ~3W dissipated by her heater resistor, or the ~12W shortfall in between.  In order make up the ~12W deficit the impedance of the negative bias source has to come way down.  It is beyond the capability of any off the shelf function generator.

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« Reply #342 on: February 05, 2014, 11:42:01 PM »
When Ms. Ainslie says that she will be applying a negative voltage to the gate of Q1 I expect that she means that she will still be using a function generator for that purpose as she has before.  The external power that the function generator supplies as seen August 11 was around 300mW.  It's non-zero but not very significant compared to the ~15W drawn from the batteries, the ~3W dissipated by her heater resistor, or the ~12W shortfall in between.  In order make up the ~12W deficit the impedance of the negative bias source has to come way down.  It is beyond the capability of any off the shelf function generator.

In the manuscripts and the blog posts she indicated that the period set in the Figure 3 scopeshot was the longest "on" , i. e. the slowest frequency or longest period, with longest duty cycle proportions, that their IsoTech/Instek GFG-8216 FG could attain. Of course we cannot take Ainslie's word for this.... at one time she called in experts to "repair" her FG when in fact all she needed to do was to pull out the offset knob to engage its function. I don't see any capability for straight DC output from this FG, from looking at the FG manual. (My Interstate F43 does have a straight DC output setting, as well as being able to deliver 40 V p-p, with 50 ohm output impedance.)

So if they indeed want continuous oscillations, they are going to have to use some other source for the negative bias current than their present FG. How would they run the FG from the same batteries that are "powering the resistor" though? Stick an inverter in there to supply the line voltage to the FG?  Actually I doubt if any of the "more knowledgeable" members of Ainslie's mob have even confronted the issue, just as they were caught completely by surprise when they were tasked to reproduce the Figure 3 scopeshot with the wiring as claimed in the daft manuscripts.

(By the way... it is another abject lie of Ainslie, when she claims that Glen Lettenmeier has "withdrawn" his data. It is all still posted publicly, with full explanations and many many scopeshots, as Glen (FuzzyTomCat) has explained many times. He "withdrew" his permission for Ainslie to use the data in her attempts at submission for publication of manuscripts that make false claims.)

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie Quantum Magazine Circuit COP > 17 Claims
« Reply #343 on: February 06, 2014, 02:34:43 AM »
I don't think that they will have any problem getting the oscillations going continuously.  I think that all they need to do is pick a waveform type (any will do) such as the square wave they have been using, set their amplitude to zero, and set the offset to maximum negative. The GFG-82xx generators can drive -5V offset into 50 Ohms.  That implies that the open circuit offset range is -10V which as you know from your own demonstrations is more than enough bias voltage to get the oscillations going.  Here is a link to the basic specifications for their function generator.

http://www.gwinstek.com/en/product/productdetail.aspx?pid=5&mid=73&id=99


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Re: Rosemary Ainslie Quantum Magazine Circuit COP > 17 Claims
« Reply #344 on: February 06, 2014, 03:13:37 AM »
I don't think that they will have any problem getting the oscillations going continuously.  I think that all they need to do is pick a waveform type (any will do) such as the square wave they have been using, set their amplitude to zero, and set the offset to maximum negative. The GFG-82xx generators can drive -5V offset into 50 Ohms.  That implies that the open circuit offset range is -10V which as you know from your own demonstrations is more than enough bias voltage to get the oscillations going.  Here is a link to the basic specifications for their function generator.

http://www.gwinstek.com/en/product/productdetail.aspx?pid=5&mid=73&id=99

I attached the complete manual for the FG in the post up above.

Of course there is no difficulty making continuous oscillations once one has some kind of continuous DC bias source. Your suggestion might work with the Instek FG... but if so, one wonders why she had such difficulty doing so. She has spoken of wanting continuous oscillations for a long time, but the FG seemed unable to deliver them. Perhaps it's just because she didn't experiment enough with the settings available.

The trick, of course, is to get the continuous oscillations _without_ the FG. It's easy to do by using some other DC bias source. Ainslie thinks they can do it with the same batteries that are powering the element resistor. This is what I am interested in seeing.

And of course, without some Q1 fully ON time, there will be no high heat in the load.

 

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