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Author Topic: Rosemary Ainslie Quantum Magazine Circuit COP > 17 Claims  (Read 249489 times)

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie Quantum Magazine Circuit COP > 17 Claims
« Reply #270 on: January 20, 2014, 04:09:54 PM »
Sure.

There is an even easier way to "fix" the duty cycle issue in the exact Quantum 17 circuit, though. You will note that in the original circuit the 555 clock is powered by its own battery. This makes the duty cycle invertible by the use of the Secret of DPDT.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVePUJJVAlc   (September 17, 2013)
That's a clever arrangement provided you have separate supplies.  Bad things will happen if you try and use it with a common supply.  Why are DPDT switches a secret?

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie Quantum Magazine Circuit COP > 17 Claims
« Reply #271 on: January 20, 2014, 04:18:36 PM »
Mark,

Do you mean Ah vs. Wh?

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie Quantum Magazine Circuit COP > 17 Claims
« Reply #272 on: January 20, 2014, 04:29:07 PM »
Poynt99 I meant Wh.  there is no reason that I can see for the huge battery banks.  If they were ever to find something with a gain that should be detectable in less than a minute.  Honestly, a good bench power supply would do.

The August 11 demonstration drew ~15W from the batteries.  If they think they need to turn Q1 on part of the time the power will jump by approximately 450W * Q1 duty cycle.  All the power gain they originally reported but the demonstrations showed was mismeasurement is supposed to be from the oscillations.  When Q1 is on it is just a surrogate switch.  So if they do need Q1 on part of the time it should only need to be for a very short time and small duty-cycle.  A 20Wh - 40Wh pack should be plenty.  At 72V they may have trouble finding a Li-ion pack smaller than 100Wh.

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie Quantum Magazine Circuit COP > 17 Claims
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Re: Rosemary Ainslie Quantum Magazine Circuit COP > 17 Claims
« Reply #273 on: January 20, 2014, 04:30:28 PM »
That's a clever arrangement provided you have separate supplies.  Bad things will happen if you try and use it with a common supply.  Why are DPDT switches a secret?

The Secret of DPDT is a poke at Steorn. During their famous Waterways demonstration of their core-effect eOrbo pulse motors, they wanted to demonstrate that the rotation of the motor did not depend on the polarity of the DC pulses provided to the drive coils. This resulted in five minutes or so of screwdriver re-wiring work on their otherwise well-laid-out giant breadboard, and then another interval while the original connections were re-established. Apparently the Secret of DPDT was not yet known by the Lads in Dublin. I have also noted several other occasions when people who might have been expected to know better, were either fooled by a DPDT switch or failed to use one in an obvious application.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Frp03muquAo

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie Quantum Magazine Circuit COP > 17 Claims
« Reply #274 on: January 20, 2014, 04:54:27 PM »
Poynt99 I meant Wh.  there is no reason that I can see for the huge battery banks.  If they were ever to find something with a gain that should be detectable in less than a minute.  Honestly, a good bench power supply would do.

The August 11 demonstration drew ~15W from the batteries.  If they think they need to turn Q1 on part of the time the power will jump by approximately 450W * Q1 duty cycle.  All the power gain they originally reported but the demonstrations showed was mismeasurement is supposed to be from the oscillations.  When Q1 is on it is just a surrogate switch.  So if they do need Q1 on part of the time it should only need to be for a very short time and small duty-cycle.  A 20Wh - 40Wh pack should be plenty.  At 72V they may have trouble finding a Li-ion pack smaller than 100Wh.

The reason for the huge battery banks is obfuscation! According to the Ainslie team, a 12 volt LA or SCLA battery is "fully charged" whenever its open-circuit terminal voltage is 12 volts or more. I know this is hard to believe but I have substantiated it with references many times before. So with a bank of 4 to six nominal "12 volt" silver-calcium LAs with 60 amp-hours rated capacity (as were used for the trials reported in the daft manuscripts), one can run her circuit at high heat values for many trials before seeing depletion in charge using their definitions and instrumentation methodology. Which is just what happened.

Why not use a large capacitor bank? Because it does not obfuscate. Even though the "negative power product" is produced just as with batteries -- in fact, the waveforms are identical -- a capacitor bank discharges at the normally expected rate. Ainslie has used this result to claim that batteries are necessary. Of course.

You may note in the photo below, published by Ainslie in PESN just before the last set of demonstrations.... there is an extra set of red and black cables, terminated by large alligator clips, leading up to behind the oscilloscope, where something is concealed underneath a wadded-up textile, in Ainslie's neat-as-a-pin "laboratory". This "something" is evidently a power supply or battery charger. Odd, isn't it?

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie Quantum Magazine Circuit COP > 17 Claims
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Re: Rosemary Ainslie Quantum Magazine Circuit COP > 17 Claims
« Reply #275 on: January 20, 2014, 04:55:15 PM »
Mark.

I've only seen batteries rated/specified in "Amp-hours", not "Watt-hours".

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie Quantum Magazine Circuit COP > 17 Claims
« Reply #276 on: January 20, 2014, 05:09:13 PM »
The Secret of DPDT is a poke at Steorn. During their famous Waterways demonstration of their core-effect eOrbo pulse motors, they wanted to demonstrate that the rotation of the motor did not depend on the polarity of the DC pulses provided to the drive coils. This resulted in five minutes or so of screwdriver re-wiring work on their otherwise well-laid-out giant breadboard, and then another interval while the original connections were re-established. Apparently the Secret of DPDT was not yet known by the Lads in Dublin. I have also noted several other occasions when people who might have been expected to know better, were either fooled by a DPDT switch or failed to use one in an obvious application.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Frp03muquAo
Do the DHS or NSA know about this DPDT secret?  It seems so powerful that it might be dangerous if it fell into the wrong hands.  A shudder to think what a determined cheese maker might be able to do with something that powerful.

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie Quantum Magazine Circuit COP > 17 Claims
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Re: Rosemary Ainslie Quantum Magazine Circuit COP > 17 Claims
« Reply #277 on: January 20, 2014, 05:10:25 PM »
Mark.

I've only seen batteries rated/specified in "Amp-hours", not "Watt-hours".
Poynt99, cells are usually rated in Ah.  There are many batteries that are rated in Wh particularly in the rechargeable battery space.

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie Quantum Magazine Circuit COP > 17 Claims
« Reply #278 on: January 20, 2014, 05:28:11 PM »
Do the DHS or NSA know about this DPDT secret?  It seems so powerful that it might be dangerous if it fell into the wrong hands.  A shudder to think what a determined cheese maker might be able to do with something that powerful.

Unfortunately... I ran out of that fine mouldy cheese, had to use all my remaining stash on a pasta emergency. And now I can no longer find any cheeses that will work in the Cheese Power demonstration.    :-[ :-\ ::) 8)

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie Quantum Magazine Circuit COP > 17 Claims
« Reply #278 on: January 20, 2014, 05:28:11 PM »
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Re: Rosemary Ainslie Quantum Magazine Circuit COP > 17 Claims
« Reply #279 on: January 20, 2014, 05:31:44 PM »
Have you considered the possibility that the DHS, or NSA quickly moved in and neutered available cheese so that what you showed would no longer be possible?

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie Quantum Magazine Circuit COP > 17 Claims
« Reply #280 on: January 20, 2014, 05:33:49 PM »
The reason for the huge battery banks is obfuscation! According to the Ainslie team, a 12 volt LA or SCLA battery is "fully charged" whenever its open-circuit terminal voltage is 12 volts or more. I know this is hard to believe but I have substantiated it with references many times before. So with a bank of 4 to six nominal "12 volt" silver-calcium LAs with 60 amp-hours rated capacity (as were used for the trials reported in the daft manuscripts), one can run her circuit at high heat values for many trials before seeing depletion in charge using their definitions and instrumentation methodology. Which is just what happened.

Why not use a large capacitor bank? Because it does not obfuscate. Even though the "negative power product" is produced just as with batteries -- in fact, the waveforms are identical -- a capacitor bank discharges at the normally expected rate. Ainslie has used this result to claim that batteries are necessary. Of course.

You may note in the photo below, published by Ainslie in PESN just before the last set of demonstrations.... there is an extra set of red and black cables, terminated by large alligator clips, leading up to behind the oscilloscope, where something is concealed underneath a wadded-up textile, in Ainslie's neat-as-a-pin "laboratory". This "something" is evidently a power supply or battery charger. Odd, isn't it?
The results could be very different if one accidentally left a charger connected and running.

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie Quantum Magazine Circuit COP > 17 Claims
« Reply #280 on: January 20, 2014, 05:33:49 PM »
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Re: Rosemary Ainslie Quantum Magazine Circuit COP > 17 Claims
« Reply #281 on: January 20, 2014, 05:41:57 PM »
Poynt99, cells are usually rated in Ah.  There are many batteries that are rated in Wh particularly in the rechargeable battery space.
Oki. Did not know that.

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie Quantum Magazine Circuit COP > 17 Claims
« Reply #282 on: January 20, 2014, 06:02:10 PM »
Have you considered the possibility that the DHS, or NSA quickly moved in and neutered available cheese so that what you showed would no longer be possible?
I knew it had to be rats, of one sort or another.

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie Quantum Magazine Circuit COP > 17 Claims
« Reply #283 on: January 20, 2014, 10:22:41 PM »
I've updated my Burst Oscillator Circuit to get rid of the 5V bias supply, and to simplify the design somewhat.

Many MOSFETs could be used, especially if a high Fo was desired. The PG50 is certainly no the best choice, but I designed around it for the sake of you know who. An IRF840 works just fine, in fact the peak voltage is about double the PG50.

I've posted this over at Rose's forum for Greg if he should be interested in trying it.

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie Quantum Magazine Circuit COP > 17 Claims
« Reply #284 on: January 20, 2014, 10:50:50 PM »
That's a simple enough solution.

Since he is chasing an energy gain idea I think he should concern himself with either using a switching amplifier, or figuring out how to measure the oscillator's losses fairly accurately.

 

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