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Author Topic: Rosemary Ainslie Quantum Magazine Circuit COP > 17 Claims  (Read 287354 times)

Offline MarkE

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie Quantum Magazine Circuit COP > 17 Claims
« Reply #705 on: March 13, 2014, 01:42:55 AM »
Low power DC load temperature calibration is complete. I've plotted one cool-down cycle on the graph as well as the 10 runs at various DC power settings.

The final plot is nice and linear. Given a measured temperature at the 60 minute mark, one may confidently read the equivalent DC power level from the plot.


Real data has a certain beauty to it. I have always thought that was one of Nature's great truths.
Nice job!  One can certainly resolve down to around a tenth of a Watt or better with that data.

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie Quantum Magazine Circuit COP > 17 Claims
« Reply #706 on: March 13, 2014, 01:48:50 AM »
TK:

If time is not a factor may I suggest 75 minutes.

My logic is as follows:  At about 20 minutes you are at about 90% of the final temperature.  So I mentally shift your cool-down curve  to start at 20 minutes, and I observe how how it "eats" into the temperature rise.  When the shifted cool-down curve is close to zero that indicates when thermal equilibrium would set in with a "head start" of already being at 90% of the final temperature.

So I massage that all in my head and come up with 75 minutes as being "very very close" to thermal equilibrium.  That's in contrast with 60 minutes being within a "few percent" of thermal equilibrium.

Also, since the goal is near-thermal equilibrium, the difference between the ambient temperature and your oil is critical.  Note that if the ambient drops 5 degrees, then the oil at near thermal equilibrium also drops 5 degrees.

Sorry for sticking my nose in!

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie Quantum Magazine Circuit COP > 17 Claims
« Reply #707 on: March 13, 2014, 01:59:28 AM »
TK:

If time is not a factor may I suggest 75 minutes.

My logic is as follows:  At about 20 minutes you are at about 90% of the final temperature.  So I mentally shift your cool-down curve  to start at 20 minutes, and I observe how how it "eats" into the temperature rise.  When the shifted cool-down cure is close to zero that indicates when thermal equilibrium would set it with a "head start" of already being at 90% of the final temperature.

So I massage that all in my head and come up with 75 minutes as being "very very close" to thermal equilibrium.  That's in contrast with 60 minutes being within a "few percent" of thermal equilibrium.

Also, since the goal is near-thermal equilibrium, the difference between the ambient temperature and your oil is critical.  Note that if the ambient drops 5 degrees, then the oil at near thermal equilibrium also drops 5 degrees.

Sorry for sticking my nose in!

MileHigh
I think it is fine the way that it is. 

The longer thermal time constant eyeballs to about 10min.  Even at 80C rise, the rise from 50min to 60min is about 1C.  That is getting into the resolution of a thermocouple based sensor.   I don't think it is worth a day or two of runs to flatten out 1C.

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie Quantum Magazine Circuit COP > 17 Claims
« Reply #707 on: March 13, 2014, 01:59:28 AM »
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Re: Rosemary Ainslie Quantum Magazine Circuit COP > 17 Claims
« Reply #708 on: March 13, 2014, 02:05:52 AM »
I agree. This data is entirely usable for the purpose: read a temperature and find the equivalent DC power dissipation. I can even use the 20-minute temperature for that, since everything is so well behaved (once convection starts, anyway.)

Later on when I'm doing experimental trials and "Joule tests --- because Joules doesn't lie --- " (tm Donny), it may turn out to be important to get all the way to complete equilibrium. We shall see.


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Re: Rosemary Ainslie Quantum Magazine Circuit COP > 17 Claims
« Reply #709 on: March 13, 2014, 02:08:51 AM »
That's fine.  For what it's worth the time constant is about 15 minutes, eyeball + calculator.

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie Quantum Magazine Circuit COP > 17 Claims
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Re: Rosemary Ainslie Quantum Magazine Circuit COP > 17 Claims
« Reply #710 on: March 13, 2014, 02:09:50 AM »
I see that the last 10 posts are NOT copied over to E&SP. They are thereby ENDORSED, it seems.

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie Quantum Magazine Circuit COP > 17 Claims
« Reply #711 on: March 13, 2014, 02:11:57 AM »
That's fine.  For what it's worth the time constant is about 15 minutes, eyeball + calculator.
I did it in my head:  63% of 80C ~= 50C rise.  YMMV

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie Quantum Magazine Circuit COP > 17 Claims
« Reply #711 on: March 13, 2014, 02:11:57 AM »
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Re: Rosemary Ainslie Quantum Magazine Circuit COP > 17 Claims
« Reply #712 on: March 13, 2014, 02:15:40 AM »
I see that the last 10 posts are NOT copied over to E&SP. They are thereby ENDORSED, it seems.
Official Bill from Big Oil to Rosemary Ainslie.
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Re: Rosemary Ainslie Quantum Magazine Circuit COP > 17 Claims
« Reply #713 on: March 13, 2014, 02:45:08 AM »
Sorry I was looking at the decay time constant!

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie Quantum Magazine Circuit COP > 17 Claims
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Re: Rosemary Ainslie Quantum Magazine Circuit COP > 17 Claims
« Reply #714 on: March 13, 2014, 03:36:58 AM »
The room temperature varies between about 23.7 C and 24.7 C indicated on that thermometer,  but all the data in the graphs is "normalized", that is, each run is displayed as the temperature above the ambient room temperature at the start of the run.

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie Quantum Magazine Circuit COP > 17 Claims
« Reply #715 on: March 13, 2014, 03:50:49 AM »
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I have a couple of ideas:  If your thermal resistance is low enough then you could perform a 100% Q1 on, and 25% Q1 on w/o any Q2 oscillations.  You could run 100% Q2 oscillations.  And you could run 25% Q1 on w/ 75% Q2 oscillations.  If your thermal resistance is too high then you will need to think of something else.

I have a slight problem and that is the power handling capacity of the load resistor stack I am using: 5 ea. 50 Ohm, 12 Watt wirewound hollow tubular ceramic power resistors in parallel, for a measured 10.5 Ohms total resistance and nominal 60 W power handling rating. By immersing in oil I should think that I could go to 100 Watts input without chancing blowing a resistor, maybe.

So with 100 percent Q1 on, and a total circuit resistance of about 13.5 or 14 Ohms, even just four main batteries (48V nominal) would take me well over the 100 Watt power level at the load resistors.

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie Quantum Magazine Circuit COP > 17 Claims
« Reply #715 on: March 13, 2014, 03:50:49 AM »
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Re: Rosemary Ainslie Quantum Magazine Circuit COP > 17 Claims
« Reply #716 on: March 13, 2014, 03:57:58 AM »
If this post is not reprinted on ESP, then it is endorsed.
AND, guys, if it's not reprinted tomorrow, then it is endorsed TWICE. And here's the thing: That's a quite STRONG endorsement. Almost irrefutable. So.


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Re: Rosemary Ainslie Quantum Magazine Circuit COP > 17 Claims
« Reply #717 on: March 13, 2014, 04:11:56 AM »
I have a slight problem and that is the power handling capacity of the load resistor stack I am using: 5 ea. 50 Ohm, 12 Watt wirewound hollow tubular ceramic power resistors in parallel, for a measured 10.5 Ohms total resistance and nominal 60 W power handling rating. By immersing in oil I should think that I could go to 100 Watts input without chancing blowing a resistor, maybe.

So with 100 percent Q1 on, and a total circuit resistance of about 13.5 or 14 Ohms, even just four main batteries (48V nominal) would take me well over the 100 Watt power level at the load resistors.
It's the maximum temperature that you need to limit.  Typically, resistors top out at 125C heated temperature.

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie Quantum Magazine Circuit COP > 17 Claims
« Reply #718 on: March 13, 2014, 04:20:49 AM »
Sometimes little reminders are in order:

"The experiments conducted:  June 29, August 10, and August 11 failed to reproduce the results reported here."

"We therefore obtained heat output that was only a fraction of the input power."

"As we are unable to replicate our earlier reported results, we respectfully withdraw this paper in both of its parts."



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Re: Rosemary Ainslie Quantum Magazine Circuit COP > 17 Claims
« Reply #719 on: March 13, 2014, 05:03:04 AM »
Official Bill from Big Oil to Rosemary Ainslie.
For lottery tickets not purchased, and storage of suitcase of money not found in Amsterdam, please remit $200,000. via Western Union to:
Dr. Joseph Zimgala
Lagos, Nigeria

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