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Author Topic: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal  (Read 1377591 times)

Offline MileHigh

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1966 on: December 28, 2015, 12:28:48 PM »
AM ON YOUR SIDE MICROMLOW.. I AM PROUD OF YOU MICROMLOW
KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK AND A PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR TO YOU AND
YOUR FAMILY..

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1967 on: December 29, 2015, 04:31:54 PM »
*** I am Mad at Mile High and so others are also !! READ below...

Acca...

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1967 on: December 29, 2015, 04:31:54 PM »
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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1968 on: December 29, 2015, 04:40:03 PM »
Al/Acca:

Go throw some plates against the wall if you need to get out your frustrations.

If you were a real man you would admit that all of your aquarium videos are wrong and that you understand
my explanation and that it makes perfect sense.

And if you can't do that, where does it leave you?  What are you made of?  What do you have to say for yourself?

Time to give it a rest.  Time to grow and learn as a person.  Time to understand what is going on in your aquarium
clips - it has been fully explained to you with text and diagrams.  What more do you want?

You are the one that is the bad guy at this point - you are the troll - grow up and be a man.

The Clarence stuff is nonsense.  Do you have an account at EF?  Go to his thread and post asking him for
his test data supporting his claim, I dare you.

MileHigh

P.S.:  Watch the freedom of speech clip and let it sink in:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vVohGWhMWs

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1969 on: December 29, 2015, 09:50:15 PM »
User2718218 4 months ago
 Djarno, I am MileHigh on overunity.com.


and later
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He has YouTube channel account that hides his Mile High Identity,
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Acca..

What an amazing find by you Acca, to tie these two IDs together. Who would've guessed ?
Congratulations, Bravo, Well done.


I kind of have to agree with you Acca that MH is a bit of a loose canon.

When trying to hide your identity, according to the CIA/Cabal/NSA/PTB handbook,
the last thing you should ever do is say "I am ..........." and refer to another identity.

It is a basic rookie mistake and has been noticed by the "folks" up on the fourteenth floor.
They will not let it happen again.



Oh, and BTW "Acca", James Lindgaard (aka Hoppfield) might want to contact you soon to turn you into the law
(as he did recently to another member in this very forum).


If your mother did not christen you "Acca" or if she couldn't be bothered to provide you with a last name,
can you provide some other means to "get in touch" with you instead of hiding behind your "Acca" forum handle.

Thx

PIH123 (first name PIH, Last Name 123)




Oh, and one more thing, if you want to try a good experiment, try posting a question
(it doesn't even need to sound negative in any way)
on any free energy claimants youtube video under the Ids :
MileHigh, MarkDansie, TinselKoala, Poynt99.


And see how long the comment stays there.  ::) ::) ::)

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1969 on: December 29, 2015, 09:50:15 PM »
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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1970 on: December 29, 2015, 11:21:15 PM »
Honestly I am much less of a "loose cannon" than I am made out to be.  Look at my comments to Djarno, I am really just trying to help the guy out and I figure he might have no clue about the qualifications or lack of qualifications of the people he was interacting with on the EF thread.  Repeat:  I was trying to help the guy out.  And it turns out I was 100% right.  In reading his subsequent posts it became readily apparent that he would not be able to qualify Clarence and BroMikey and others.  Since he himself was an absolute beginner and barely had any understanding about electricity himself, he could very easily have electrocuted himself.  And yet Acca wants to portray me as a bad guy because I am trying to help somebody out with some frank talk.

I looked back through this thread and I posted all sorts of technical diagrams about the alleged system as well as diagrams explaining how telluric currents work and a diagram explaining how a DC high-voltage transmission system would work.  One of them is attached here.  I made an effort to educate people including marking up a series of drawings.  And I am such a "bad guy."

The sad thing is when presented with a lot of good technical information often the only response you get from the believers is stony silence.  That's what happened here.

I was repeatedly bashed by "Enjoykin."  Nobody was complaining about that.  Then somebody scolded him for the repeated bashing and he instantly ran away never to be seen again.

Nothing will come of this.  The schematic is nothing more than a battery powering an inverter powering a battery.  The ground rods are meaningless, they just use the moist earth to complete one leg of the AC circuit.  It's literally impossible to pick up any energy from the telluric currents in the ground with the setup.

Telling the truth does not make me a bad guy at all.  If Clarence or anybody else doesn't believe me then prove me wrong.  This only applies to those that already have a system, I still strongly advise people considering building one of these systems to not do so.

I am sure the EF crowd peeks in here from time to time.  One of you has to have the courage to start talking about making measurements.  I am not only taking about run times.  I am sure you have seen my power flow diagram, use that as a guide for making measurements.  It's very possible that Clarence is the only game in town, and nobody else will build anything.  Djarno is gone and there is one new guy but I get the feeling that he is losing steam because I don't think he has posted much recently.  If Clarence is the only game in town, then don't expect to see any measurements.

Now, Acca, I want you to stop your freaking out and demonizing of me - period.

MileHigh

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1971 on: December 30, 2015, 07:31:34 PM »
 Earth Currents Experiments CLIPS

What is in that pic  THAT IS WRONG !!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyP_pVtpa9w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTbsr-Lc1go
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zj5spHx_-X8
 
 
 
 
 Acca..[/font]

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1971 on: December 30, 2015, 07:31:34 PM »
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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1972 on: December 30, 2015, 08:09:55 PM »
Earth Currents Experiments CLIPS

What is in that pic  THAT IS WRONG !!

 Acca..[/font]

I am listening.  Please tell me what is wrong in my pic.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1973 on: December 31, 2015, 07:47:43 AM »

theres nothing wrong with milehighs diagram , its S.W.E.R = single wire earth return , based on tesla and introduced / "invented" by Lloyd Mandeno in 1925 in NZ . 
still used in rural areas and in Brazil

anyone can google it  = "mandenos clothesline"

just another variation of transmission , tesla

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1973 on: December 31, 2015, 07:47:43 AM »
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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1974 on: December 31, 2015, 11:17:41 PM »

   Прекрасные Восходящие Молнии !  Amazing Upward Lightning !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zsiyW8l6rs


Energy is flowing up ...



Earth is loaded with ENERGY and very heavy current flows under us..


The Return path for electrons is WRONG....


There is a separation of charges (electrons) by the GENERATOR and the electrons enter the wire at right angles  to the wire ..


PROOF IS HERE !!! YOU ALL WHO STILL THINK THAT THE CONVENTIONAL SYSTEM IS IT YOU HAVE AS A STANDARD EXPLANATION NEED TO WAKE UP... You all have been BRAINWASHED....


Acca...



 On the Principles of Permissible Overunity EM Power Systems




By Tom Bearden July 2001
 
http://www.cheniere.org/techpapers/on_the_principles_of_permissible.htm
 
 
We develop the major principles of emerging overunity EM power systems as open systems far from thermodynamic equilibrium, freely receiving excess energy from the active vacuum.  Such systems were arbitrarily omitted from Maxwell's theory by curtailment.  Heaviside's reinterpretation and simplification of Maxwell's equations did retain such overunity EM systems as one major subset.  Lorentz then regauged the Maxwell-Heaviside equations by arbitrary symmetrical regauging to provide still simpler equations and a further reduced subset of permissible Maxwell-Heaviside systems.  Lorentz regauging erroneously discarded the entire class of Maxwellian EM systems not in thermodynamic equilibrium with the active vacuum.
Generators and batteries do not furnish energy to their external circuits.  Instead, the source dipole, once formed, extracts energy from the vacuum via the broken 3-symmetry of its constituent charges.  The generators and batteries only perform work upon their internal charges to separate them and form the source dipole.  Hence one does not input energy to a conventional power source to power the circuit; instead, the input energy is only for the power source to create its source dipole.  Once made, the broken symmetry of the dipole extracts usable EM energy from the vacuum and pours it out the terminals of the power supply (Figure 1 ).  The extracted energy from the vacuum is in the form of Heaviside/Poynting energy flow, consisting of two components (Figure 2 ).  The portion striking the circuit and diverged into the conductors to power the electron current is the Poynting component.  The remaining Heaviside nondiverged component misses the circuit and is wasted.  Every dipolar power supply is already a COP>1.0 EM converter system.
Closed current loop design of present power systems insures that Lorentz symmetrical regauging is self-applied by every system (Figure 3  ).  The depotentialized electrons in the ground return line are forcibly rammed back through the back emf of the source dipole, scattering the dipole charges and destroying the source dipole.  This kills the flow of energy being extracted from the vacuum by the former dipole.  Such systems use their collected energy to destroy their free energy mechanism (the source dipole) and its extraction of energy from the vacuum, faster than they can power their loads.  Hence present EM power systems are self-crippling systems inherently self-limited to COP<1.0.
 Classical EM still erroneously assumes any charge as existing in an inert vacuum and creating—right out of nothing—all the EM energy flow it continuously pours out in all directions across the entire universe, providing the EM energy in the fields and potentials associated with the charge.  [/font]This erroneous assumption that every charge is a pure source and a perpetual motion machine was resolved over 40 years ago in particle physics by the discovery of broken symmetry (Figure 4 [/font]).  [/font]However, classical electrodynamicists have never changed their century-old model to incorporate the proven active vacuum exchange.

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VIDEO BY TOM BEARDEN..below...[/font]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wleifp3Fbe0[/font]

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Here is a video of his award ..
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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1975 on: January 01, 2016, 03:02:54 PM »
No, the diagram I posted is 100% correct.

Here is some good "anti brainwashing" for you:

https://www.youtube.com/user/lasseviren1/videos

Watch every single one of that guy's clips and do all the background work that you need to do to understand them.  For example, if you don't understand basic calculus, then undertake to learn it and understand it.

Understand all of that guy's clips - even if it means working your ass off - and then you will be in a position to make reasonable and rational evaluations of the things you see around here.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1975 on: January 01, 2016, 03:02:54 PM »
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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1976 on: January 01, 2016, 05:39:00 PM »
I have the same video too ..

The math is very good and easy to understand..

Thanks for the pointer !!

Acca..  and a Happy New year from Poland..



here is my math as this is my electronics math .. btw it's electronics..
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23EiyhJaqEw
 
https://www.youtube.com/user/KhanAcademyPolski/videos
 
 

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1977 on: January 01, 2016, 09:25:06 PM »
theres no such thing as a conventional energy system , there is an industrial/commercial profitable venture.


a society can not be built around free energy system , only a small break away commune can function that way

Beardens info and videos are well worth looking into
http://www.cheniere.org/books/efv/index.htm

http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates/1957/


there are large telluric currents in the ground .     all of electrical conductors , semi conductors and non conductors are extracted from the earth = the mining industry

the free electron of a copper atom exists whether the copper atom is in a store bought roll of wire or burried deep in the ground.
there are free electrons everywhere especially in the ground


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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1978 on: January 02, 2016, 02:30:03 AM »
There is nothing practical that can be done with the telluric currents in the ground.  On the EF thread they make references to telluric currents and this nonsensical B&L system as if it means something, but they never try to say what that something actually is.  It's the same thing they do for "where you are located on the geomagnetic map."  It's meaningless data that that they try to imply means something but they never try to say what that something actually is.  This is evidence telling you that they are just groping around in the dark clutching at straws.  The related issue is to have the courage to state that there are serious issues and problems with the whole affair as exemplified by meaningless discussions about telluric currents and the geomagnetic map..

It's a fair statement to say that telluric currents, your location on the geomagnetic map, and the Schumann resonance are tangible things that exist in Nature but have no practical application towards the goal of the production of energy.  Yet people use these buzz words as if they mean something.  Probably the worst and most abused is the Schumann resonance which will have no affect whatsoever on some kind of experiment done on the bench.

If you do a "bad search" on Tom Bearden you will learn a lot about how he is not what many people believe he is.  I am sure he still pays his electrical bill.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1979 on: January 03, 2016, 04:30:23 PM »
Mile high, you're just a disinformer paid by someone, or in the worst case you do not perceive free.
You have too much time to put your bucket of poop and throw it in front of the fan to anyone who does not write what you like to read.
Major advances in science have been made mainly by people who do not think and do the same to everyone, but most can not achieve anything of significance.
Your attitude is too obvious (they are talking to resist?)
If your goal is to keep the attention of the forum engaged in polemics only to prevent any real progress is made, I think you do very well because they already did that several participants contributing something very interesting, are elsewhere, where their information are welcomed, for the benefit of everyone.
I spent two weeks reading the 133 pages to catch up, with great effort, since English is not my language and the last 100 pages are filled with personal attacks and I am surprised that the forum moderators have allowed this.
I'm about three years researching what B & L and I think there is something that can be achieved either equal to what pose, Barbosa Leal, or with what is being discovered by many experimenters who have achieved results with different methods.
I hope you change your attitude, albeit late, because you managed to ruin this forum, but can regain the attention of many who dream of seeing disappear the elites who rule the world
A hug and that this new year will bring a new and great for everyone.
Lalo2      :'(

 

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