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Author Topic: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal  (Read 1210134 times)

Offline a.king21

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1245 on: April 07, 2015, 02:14:19 AM »
Milehigh:  You come into this thread dismissing it .  Yet you admit you haven't read it all.
That's just damned disrespectful and dishonest.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1246 on: April 07, 2015, 02:18:45 AM »
I am interested in this thread from the point of view of current amplification.
 ie current transformers.
If the Don Smith devices work with HV why not with HA  ie High amps.

Offline MileHigh

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1247 on: April 07, 2015, 02:49:42 AM »
Milehigh:  You come into this thread dismissing it .  Yet you admit you haven't read it all.
That's just damned disrespectful and dishonest.

I read the last four full pages worth of this discussion so I got the "flavour" of the discussion.

I may be hedging my bets, but still:  What's truly disrespectful and dishonest in this thread is the people with no credibility making false claims.  Especially if they expect people to invest time and money in a project that won't work.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1247 on: April 07, 2015, 02:49:42 AM »
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Offline ramset

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1248 on: April 07, 2015, 02:57:10 AM »
HHMMm
I don't believe Clarence is making an intentional false claim ,
and I would like to read more of his reports on this subject and his results , which he says will be forthcoming.

Chet


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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1249 on: April 07, 2015, 05:58:30 AM »

Hello Clarence,

Thank you for offering to help. My goal is 120vac 60hz 25 amp.

The main concern I have is the soil here may not be suitable and I would like to test it.

In your opinion can we safely say that “if you sink two test rods and get .4 volts DC then the soil is good enough”? Do you think .4 volts is a good figure to use?

What total voltage should I be getting from the earth ground system all by itself?

Also how many of your rods are connected 'to ground from the system' and how many are connected 'return to system' ? I ask because I wonder if there is an optimum ratio to hold to.

If you could answer these questions for me then I would know what to shoot for and I can get started on this.

Thank you
Mack


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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1249 on: April 07, 2015, 05:58:30 AM »
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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1250 on: April 07, 2015, 11:39:35 AM »
Hi ,
Enjoykin i left my opinion about the spark gap subject , and the subject of toroidal transformer without the hv coil secondary.
The transformer toroid should have only the original primary in my case is 230v 50hz only the main primary.

about the "spark gap" :
Surge protector mechanism act like a pulse or spark gap. the effect can be achieved  with diodes too.

This discharge will do the work of pulsing .
See :
Primary coil generate a pulse of voltage higher then source , so the surge protector  discharge  to ground. but we have a small coil around the closed loop that go to ground in series with load . This will generate a reversed high voltage because secondary is  low turns so the induced voltage in primary will be very high, and the surge protector will discharge the excess again .
And the process will be repeat. but this is not a overunity is only a more efficiency process .
The closed loop is only to maintain the core of thyroidal transformer saturated. This is a MAG with feedback. Or saturable reactor with feedback.
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Hello nelsonrochaa !!  :D

Yes it have sence all what you have said - but i think spark-gap wiring is wrong in Ariovaldo schematic.

If you want you can try this SR193 old experiment with two toroidal transformers and HV sparks.
For maximum brightness HV spark should be fired exactly on top of positive half of sinusoide or on top of negative if you use negative HV source.

Both transformers are here because galvanic isolation from grid or sinus inverter. You can use LATR  - autotransformer in voltage ratio 1:1.

nelsonrochaa watch old experiments of Russian Persian Princess  :D

Эксперимент с 2 трансформаторами - (same configuration as SR193).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyDszwcuwlQ

Antigravity - It's easy - another experiment by Russian Persian Princess  :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-O_PkNv-pN8

Опыт 12 08 12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jtjgAwXqGg

SR193 Репликация.rar - Replication of HV sparking sinus
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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1251 on: April 07, 2015, 12:08:38 PM »
Well since were all throwing junk together-->here is the Tesla reactor. :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVffZOnerUk

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1251 on: April 07, 2015, 12:08:38 PM »
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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1252 on: April 07, 2015, 12:37:01 PM »
Well since were all throwing junk together-->here is the Tesla reactor. :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVffZOnerUk

Nice junk yard project Tinman, complete with your unique brand of humour.  :) Given that you've labelled it as a Tesla reactor, as opposed to a normal reactor, now wait for the 'is it overunity' questions!  ;D

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1253 on: April 07, 2015, 12:59:32 PM »
I am interested in this thread from the point of view of current amplification.
 ie current transformers.
If the Don Smith devices work with HV why not with HA  ie High amps.

Something that might be worth experimenting with. Take a MOT with re-wired secondary for high current (welding trafo style). Then step-up the very low voltage, very high current output, through a Tesla type transformer and charge up caps, to then pulse discharge into lamps. This is another junk yard type project, that might just shed some light on the modus-operandi of the 'its so simple you'll laugh Kapanadze box devices.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1253 on: April 07, 2015, 12:59:32 PM »
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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1254 on: April 07, 2015, 01:46:49 PM »
Nice junk yard project Tinman, complete with your unique brand of humour.  :) Given that you've labelled it as a Tesla reactor, as opposed to a normal reactor, now wait for the 'is it overunity' questions!  ;D
Hey,the OU bit is comeing for sure lol.
Here is the second video,and we have moved a bit of bedini in there now. We are also running on batteries,and now ready for the big loop system setup. :D Note how the run battery voltage has climbed,even though we are drawing power from it,and not returning any ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWPJXqUFD4o

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1255 on: April 07, 2015, 02:25:46 PM »
Hey,the OU bit is comeing for sure lol.
Here is the second video,and we have moved a bit of bedini in there now. We are also running on batteries,and now ready for the big loop system setup. :D Note how the run battery voltage has climbed,even though we are drawing power from it,and not returning any ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWPJXqUFD4o

Well... that's impressive! You've got nearly all the requirements for an electrical OU device: A maze of colored clipleads, a handful of DMMs, and of course.... batteries !!

But where are the light bulbs? Gotta have light bulbs.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1255 on: April 07, 2015, 02:25:46 PM »
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Offline ramset

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1256 on: April 07, 2015, 02:53:04 PM »
Clarence
Too many ground rods can have side effects [shot from "EnJoy's" Villa during energy harvesting =]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8mSwCwZO1o&feature=youtu.be

**courtesy of Jim Boot  ,with a question
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""What causes that path of least resistance and why does it grow in length? Ionized gases producing a pressure difference?""
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Offline tinman

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1257 on: April 07, 2015, 03:25:37 PM »
Well... that's impressive! You've got nearly all the requirements for an electrical OU device: A maze of colored clipleads, a handful of DMMs, and of course.... batteries !!

But where are the light bulbs? Gotta have light bulbs.
The bulbs are comeing TK,and LED's at that :P
Were also moving to the B modle,and i expect a far greater output from this one.
It's sure to go OU ;D

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1258 on: April 08, 2015, 12:40:37 AM »
SSsssoo
I get the feeling that Clarence may have left the building, I surely hope this is NOT the case,
however I would greatly appreciate it if those who are not interested in replicating or experimenting would allow those who are interested to continue .

To whom it may concern
next time a commercial comes on during your SpongeBob Squarepants show go visit another thread....
Please leave this one alone.

thx
Chet





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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1259 on: April 08, 2015, 03:10:03 AM »
One more time, you are misguided Chet.  The last few pages of this thread were filled with unsubstantiated nonsense from Clarence.  When somebody talks junk, and balks when people ask him for proof, and tells people to go out and spend time and money to build it themselves, then you have all the trappings of a classic nonsense thread.  Beyond that, from what I saw, Clarence wouldn't even be able to make a convincing demo clip and generate solid data because in all likelihood he doesn't possess the knowledge or the skills to do that.

If you have no idea how to bake a cake, and you do it anyways, and then present it to people to taste it and comment, they are going to say the cake was crap.  Who is going to object if someone presents crusty goop instead of a cake and people comment and say the cake was awful?  Clarence is doing the same thing with respect to electronics.

You can put on your blinders and put your hands over your ears and hum loudly when when people with some experience in electronics say something is crap.  You are disrespecting people that have accumulated knowledge and experience and instead are supporting electronics clowns that don't even know what they are talking about in the unfounded and unreasonable faint hope that somebody is going to pull a rabbit out of their hat.

The only solution is to just let people say what they want to say.  Stop being a bouncer.  There is a difference between straight no-nonsense comments about some implausible electronics fantasy and outright mean-spirited trolling.  Myself and others have made our comments for the benefit of all reading.  Some might not like reading the comments, tough luck for them.

Where is Clarence to defend himself?  Where is Clarence to acknowledge that he has to demonstrate competence in electronics, make his case with a convincing argument, and produce data that is honest and credible and verifiable?  What about "saving the world" and "preventing millions of people from starving to death because of the advent of cheap, plentiful free energy?"

So far, the answer is that he is nowhere.  There is a decent chance that my earlier comments about his silly motivations and incompetence in electronics are 100% true.  If that is the case, then his little "magic pitch" is just a farce like I stated.

Just let people speak their minds.  If Clarence wilts and fades away, then with almost 100% certainty he was pure BS.  The net result is that yet another useless "noise maker" has disappeared.   Just look at the recent example of Chris/EMJunkie and his silly funky transformer circuit.  It quickly became apparent that Chris could not punch his way out of a wet paper bag when it came to electronics.  You should have seen him boast about his supposed knowledge and demonstrate a lot of fake arrogance.  He was exposed for the real truth about his circuit and he ran away and now he probably continues to BS from the confines of his web site.  At least on this forum he is not wasting anybody's time anymore.

MileHigh

 

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