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Author Topic: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal  (Read 1437406 times)

Offline pavqw

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #855 on: July 21, 2014, 07:59:28 PM »
So I did some tests with separated ground (directly to ground) and results are same.
No free energy here. I can measure input consumption very precisely.
Even isolants are conductive to some point.
If you do same tests be sure you are measuring AC, because there is no input DC consumption of course.
My final statement for now is, its not worth to build Lorrie Matchett device, because there is no free energy at all.
But it was nice to learn something new.

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Offline nelsonrochaa

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #856 on: July 22, 2014, 11:15:12 PM »
So I did some tests with separated ground (directly to ground) and results are same.
No free energy here. I can measure input consumption very precisely.
Even isolants are conductive to some point.
If you do same tests be sure you are measuring AC, because there is no input DC consumption of course.
My final statement for now is, its not worth to build Lorrie Matchett device, because there is no free energy at all.
But it was nice to learn something new.


Hi pavqw , soon has i can i will try to make a model to compare some notes with you.
Thanks for the tips .;)

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #857 on: July 31, 2014, 09:27:22 PM »
One more joke??


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFY4PqcSAAw


Cheers


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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #857 on: July 31, 2014, 09:27:22 PM »
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Offline nelsonrochaa

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #858 on: July 31, 2014, 11:21:49 PM »
One more joke??


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFY4PqcSAAw


Cheers


Ariovaldo





Ola Ariovaldo ,
este video já tem algum tempo (1mês) ,a não apresenta grandes novidades , aparentemente.
Ainda não entendi o porque de tanto segredo por parte deles.O meu inglês é péssimo e por isso vou postar em português já que ainda não tinha tido oportunidade de falar contigo dado que tinhas ido de ferias :) Espero que tenham sido boas , sabem sempre a pouco.

Aquilo que pude constatar em todos os testes que fiz (Alguns não foram publicados) é que o efeito é similar a outros projectos baseados em energia livre como por exemplo Ismael Aviso,kapanadze, akula etc.
Todos estes projectos tem algo em comum :ressonância, BACKEMF e ground  .
Após alguns testes que fiz com DC pulsado , pude observar alguns efeitos interessantes e que continuarei a explorar, dá uma vista de olhos no ultimo video que publiquei.
Existe um efeito de "swing" ou ressonância no circuito que mantém o circuito a oscilar . Vê e da-me a tua opinião .   
Em relação a testes na rede ac :

O circuito que demonstrei no video , não esta apenas a enganar o medidor como muita gente aqui referiu.
A razão para o qual apresenta aqueles valores é simples :
O circuito esta a devolver energia a rede e o medidor apenas mede entre os seus terminais a energia real que é consumida mas quando o circuito gera um excedente de energia (Reactiva) a mesma é absorvido no loop criando um acoplamento indutivo com o primário devolvendo energia para a rede  .
Inicialmente o fluxo magnético gerado no loop pelo primário cria um fluxo magnético fixo e sempre referi que a amperagem medida no loop não é a disponível tal como quer dar a entender o Barbosa ,mas o efeito magnético criado pelo  loop é importante para gerar o efeito observado .
 O medidor que uso é true rms, ele mede corrente aparente,real e também factor de potencia.
O circuito tem uma redução em geral de 58% em relação ao consumo normal das cargas que testei variando consoante o tipo de carga , pois no caso de cargas indutivas geradas em motores eléctricos o efeito é mais visível , pelo facto de criarem energia reactiva e essa é necessária para criar o campo magnético entre o loop e o primário do transformador dado que o fluxo magnético é invertido no sentido da rede.
Já testei com várias fontes de medição inclusivamente com um contador da fornecedora eléctrica que tem os dois medidores disco e digital por impulsos , e o que é curioso é veres o disco realmente andar muito mais lento , ou em pulsos :) e as vezes parar e não existir os pulsos.
No entanto se a mesma carga fosse ligada directamente a rede o contador alem de aumentar os pulsos (dez por cada volta da roda analógica) era visível que a roda analógica rodava de forma uniforme. algo esta a acontecer ..
Quero assinalar que o meu sistema de Protecção DN do quadro eléctrico esteve sempre ligado ao contrario do que vi em alguns testes feitos por outras pessoas. È muito imprudente desligar o sistema de Protecção DN e por esse motivo assim que puder vou publicar um video exactamente a demonstrar, que o meu sistema DN esta activo e funcional e que não faz sentido desligar o mesmo .

 Volto a referir que a patente de Barbosa é apenas uma mescla ou mistura de patentes.
Se leres as referencias que usaram para conseguir fazer a patente , são todas já conhecidas e essas sim são importantes para perceber o efeito.
Vou receber um osciloscópio :) uma doação feita por um subscritor que vai possibilitar outro tipo de analise .

Eles (Barbosa) apenas criaram uma manobra de diversão para desviar a atenção das pessoas daquilo que realmente é importante . É possível que eles saibam já algo mais e por razões óbvias não querem difundir .
Eles apenas descobriram um efeito mas precisam de $ para poder avançar nas suas pesquisas e parece que não o têm por isso criaram este show para captar as atenções de alguém capaz $ garantir financiamento um investidor , tal como kapanadze.
Eu dedico-me a este hobby com muito poucos recursos e sei que é complicado quando queremos avançar em algo e ficamos parados porque não existe $ para os equipamentos para material etc.
Aguardo uns mosfets de ultra baixa resistência para testar os pulsos em DC  :) assim que puder publicarei resultados.

Boas experiências   

Offline nelsonrochaa

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #859 on: August 10, 2014, 12:25:57 PM »
For people that want reproduce the circuit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paJeF8TxjB0

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #859 on: August 10, 2014, 12:25:57 PM »
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Offline nelsonrochaa

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #860 on: August 26, 2014, 01:08:08 PM »
For people that want reproduce the circuit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paJeF8TxjB0


Some interesting effect when pulse the dc current in the circuit with a vibrator .The gap created is green .
I thing can be any relation with Cherenkov radiation .see the video and comment. Thanks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfxEAQNOjp0

Offline nelsonrochaa

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #861 on: August 28, 2014, 01:12:47 PM »

Some interesting effect when pulse the dc current in the circuit with a vibrator .The gap created is green .
I thing can be any relation with Cherenkov radiation .see the video and comment. Thanks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfxEAQNOjp0

Hi another test to see the gain in the output with a motor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf_qUlwSZl0

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #861 on: August 28, 2014, 01:12:47 PM »
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Offline nelsonrochaa

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #862 on: August 29, 2014, 01:37:31 AM »
Hi another test to see the gain in the output with a motor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf_qUlwSZl0

Another test with a resistive load https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9daYU4JBMu4
thanks

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #863 on: November 28, 2014, 08:55:52 AM »
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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #863 on: November 28, 2014, 08:55:52 AM »
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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #864 on: December 02, 2014, 01:52:04 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUtRFSqj504

This is a video in Spanish that modifies the circuit Barbosa and place a capacitor instead of a ground wire screwed. Very simple to prove.

Cheers..

I

Offline Neofln

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #865 on: December 02, 2014, 10:53:28 PM »
Like i said to @Enric Toledo in a private email some time ago, u have the wire of closed loop the thicker one, when u put the ground cable around the thicker wire what u get? A primitive capacitor, two metalics surfaces separated by a isolator... Right?
But our friend Ariovaldo got one of these "captor de elétrons da terra" disassembled and nothing special in the connection if i remember right...

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Offline Clarence

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #866 on: December 04, 2014, 09:10:52 PM »
@ ALL

new to the forum - but I started a the first post and covered everything to present - IMHO the material that was stated to be gravel in the "junk captor" photos appears to be quartz crystal fragments which can be purchased globally. these crystal fragments can give out a piezzo electric effect - they supply the electric spark to fire starters and most cigarette lighters nowadays. since I see a heavy concentration of them poured in the primary toroid area before the resin was added it could be possible to have an extra effect on both the primary and the heavy wire loop in that area. If the other areas of the resin did not have them it would be somewhat of a confirmation.  just a thought.

also why was the captor a " junk captor" ?

LOL Clarence

Offline hanon

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #867 on: December 08, 2014, 11:22:16 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUtRFSqj504

This is a video in Spanish that modifies the circuit Barbosa and place a capacitor instead of a ground wire screwed. Very simple to prove.

Cheers..

I

I have found really interesting this modified design with a capacitor instead of the turns done with the ground wire, and connecting the secondary to the primary from the outlet instead in the inlet.

The input is not affected when adding a load. Please watch the video.

Regards

Offline Kator01

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #868 on: December 09, 2014, 05:53:04 PM »
Hanon,

this design only demonstrates  a mag-amp-effect. The small shorted coil ( 160 t0 200 A) has the effect of saturating the torus-core.
Because of this the reluctance of the big coil is reduced drastically. Without shorting the loop-coil the reluctance of the big primary coil is so high ( 1- 2 Henry) that no active current is flowing but only reactive current. Without load and the small coil shorted the clamp-meter thus shows 0.9 A but what the clamp-meter does not show is the phase-shift between voltage and current. In this phase still only reactive power is oscillating although the inductance of the primary has dropped down ( by saturation) to about 0.1 Henry . Without the capacitor this would come close to a short circuit-situation.
Once you put on a load a respective active power ( and current ) is flowing into the load but still the clamp-meter can not distinguish between active and reactive current. You have a mixture of active and reactive power which does not exceed 115 Watt ( 115 V * 1 A )
There is no overunity effect here and certainly no current drawn from the ground.

I myself have done extensive continuous testing ( more than a year) with this kind of setup ( even without the capacitor) in order to dim loads up to 1 KW. Standard transductor technique dated back to 1930.
This guy has no clue what is going on in his setup

Regards

Kator

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #869 on: December 10, 2014, 09:02:51 AM »

 

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