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Author Topic: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal  (Read 1732077 times)

havuhung

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #615 on: March 20, 2014, 04:24:12 AM »

I agree with you...Why somebody will spend a lot of money with a system that looks like a scam?
I tested the equipment and it did work in my place, probably because the grounding system was not so good, but the same equipment was tested in a good grounding system before and didn't run either.


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Ariovaldo
Hi All,
Things on my mind and I have also found an answer is: There are some people they like and in any way that they tricked you, if successful with these actions, they are delighted and says, 'I've tricked it really stupid when guys listen to us!

Well, they always cheat people and are proud of what they've done! :(

Havuhung









Collapsingfield

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #616 on: March 20, 2014, 02:07:09 PM »

http://pesn.com/2014/01/30/9602431_PESN-rep_witnesses_Evolucoes-Energia-Captor_off-grid-overunity/:

"They hooked the Captor to a 90 Amp-hour battery with a DC/AC inverter that drew 21 A at 12 Volts DC that, in turn, fed the Captor with 252 W at 230 V. They then hooked a 1,000 W lamp and a 600 W heater with a total load of 1,610 W. That comes to a ratio of nearly 6.4 times the power drawn from the inverter -- not as good as what they observed at a higher power level from the grid, but definitely an overunity effect of a very significant level."[/size]

MenofFather

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #617 on: March 20, 2014, 02:20:25 PM »
Here http://pesn.com/2014/01/30/9602431_PESN-rep_witnesses_Evolucoes-Energia-Captor_off-grid-overunity/TESTE_BATERIA.pdf
Use in to 2000 W iverter [size=78%]11,72 VCC[/size]
55,4 A = 649 W (0,649 KW)
out 237 VCA x 815 A = 193.115 W (193 KW)

Energy amplification, more than 200 times.
If I good understand foreign language. :D ;D


Edit: But seems they meshure closed loop but not amps on load.  :o  seems they use tick iron pipe as resistance, so meashurements may be not wery correct.[/size]

ariovaldo

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #618 on: March 20, 2014, 03:28:41 PM »
Here http://pesn.com/2014/01/30/9602431_PESN-rep_witnesses_Evolucoes-Energia-Captor_off-grid-overunity/TESTE_BATERIA.pdf
Use in to 2000 W iverter [size=78%]11,72 VCC[/size]
55,4 A = 649 W (0,649 KW)
out 237 VCA x 815 A = 193.115 W (193 KW)

Energy amplification, more than 200 times.
If I good understand foreign language. :D ;D


Edit: But seems they meshure closed loop but not amps on load.  :o  seems they use tick iron pipe as resistance, so meashurements may be not wery correct.[/size]


That isn't true. The amps they are getting is in the secondary. If take a look in the movie that I made, I got 80 amps in the secondary, so 80 X 110 volts will be 8.8 kw and that isn't true...


totoalas

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #619 on: March 20, 2014, 06:51:12 PM »
its like a welding machine as shown by Thomas kim video
my 6mm pvc sheath  melt only after 5 minutes so maybe there is still a use for this in heating application

fer123

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #620 on: March 20, 2014, 09:04:01 PM »
Don't give up, maybe something surprise us.
« Last Edit: March 21, 2014, 03:26:31 AM by fer123 »

reniukas

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #621 on: March 20, 2014, 09:46:10 PM »
Hi for all
Don't give up with Barbosa replication .I'm trying too, but still nothing .

I new in this forum but not new in free  energy research .I carefully checked all  Mr Ariovaldo pictures and i found that transformer have 4 wire ends so it's not single wire with 600 turns and there is different size of wire check picture .
And here could be different winding 
Check this links
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BprAyIU6n7k
http://www.videomix.cz/video/-y8GifVM6WA/
May be here is the answer

FatBird

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #622 on: March 21, 2014, 12:12:31 AM »
Here is a NICE site from a WITNESS.  You can even DOWNLOAD a ZIPPED file of 18 Hi RES photos.


http://pesn.com/2014/01/30/9602431_PESN-rep_witnesses_Evolucoes-Energia-Captor_off-grid-overunity/

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havuhung

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #623 on: March 21, 2014, 05:39:42 AM »
Hi All,

Another question is: Why is the device from the company patents were sold to customers, it is fake and it does not work?   ( Here we have a device Ariovaldo of which he spent much effort to decode secret to us ).

Is it a scam plans of this company? or an individual that is also the inventor ? >:(

The tricks used to conceal, witnesses peered into the device's performance they will have a lot of ways and they can hire individuals to speak flattering words for their fake products.

It's really hard to get the insight to avoid being fooled!!!  >:(

Havuhung

MenofFather

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #624 on: March 21, 2014, 05:55:32 AM »
Hi All,

Another question is: Why is the device from the company patents were sold to customers, it is fake and it does not work?   
I think, they probarly getting energy from ground and phase and they bealeave, that here is free energy, so patented this divice. Because then they use energy from inverter, then get amplification not 100-200 times, but only about 6 times if also they good meshure, maybe and not one times. :D

skribat

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #625 on: March 21, 2014, 08:44:19 AM »
I think, they probarly getting energy from ground and phase and they bealeave, that here is free energy, so patented this divice. Because then they use energy from inverter, then get amplification not 100-200 times, but only about 6 times if also they good meshure, maybe and not one times. :D
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does it matter where the energy is coming from if it was lost energy which is being recovered? .. even if the output is only twice the input that can be a 50% saving .. if you could halve your heating bill would you be happy? .. yes me too.

forest

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #626 on: March 21, 2014, 10:13:46 AM »
where is the rest of device ? only captor was inside the box ? this is only passive device  ;)

ariovaldo

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #627 on: March 21, 2014, 12:08:12 PM »
Hi for all
Don't give up with Barbosa replication .I'm trying too, but still nothing .

I new in this forum but not new in free  energy research .I carefully checked all  Mr Ariovaldo pictures and i found that transformer have 4 wire ends so it's not single wire with 600 turns and there is different size of wire check picture .
And here could be different winding 
Check this links
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BprAyIU6n7k
http://www.videomix.cz/video/-y8GifVM6WA/
May be here is the answer


You are sharp.
Yes, the coil had more than one connection, but my assumption was that is not so easy to winding by hand 660 turns in a toroid, so this was done in parts. It was connect in series anyway. Different sizes of wire? Yes, 60 turns with a 20 AWG magnetic wire….

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Ariovaldo

ariovaldo

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #628 on: March 21, 2014, 12:12:19 PM »
Some more pictures


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Ariovaldo

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #629 on: March 21, 2014, 12:15:36 PM »
One more picture..




Cheers


Ariovaldo