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Author Topic: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal  (Read 1732244 times)

kpannic

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #465 on: February 22, 2014, 12:27:55 AM »
Hi, first excuse my English. I looked carefully this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRSP7h73u-Q

and diagrams from the patent.

1. They say in patent: the ground not a direct contact with the device. Take a look of the pictures with ground. I do not think that thick cable could do looping inside over the secondary looping. It's the same cable where measures the amps.

2. It measures only a single cable (blue) with that clamp meter. why not the black wire? see pic. Only the first device have input wire with two colors the rest not? Why the power cable have two color and the guy watch carrefuly when connect the plug???

3. At the last device, they show as the input 10amps (2200Watts) without loading and the looping wire with 128amps...again without loading.

4. My conclusion is that it is a scam. See my diagram and make the experiment on your risk. Look the diagram

P.S. Now I hope not as I think and is really a good invention.


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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #466 on: February 22, 2014, 02:56:45 AM »
I am just wondering is there anyone else other than myself who still prefers the CRT to the LED / plasma / LCD
I still use CRT for my computers also I find them more comfortable and natural, much easier on the eyes.  sk

I have sent another message for news of Barbosa and Lea . Energia universal and will post it when I have it.
They never respond to my emails or FB message(s).  ???

skribat

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #467 on: February 22, 2014, 06:52:11 PM »
hi mx1000 .. I don't know them but I had emails from them in december .. I have two contacts in Brazil who can contact them by telephone, I email for news then must wait until I receive a reply, there is still the accusation of possessing the electric meters and they are defending this case in the court, at the moment I don't have any more news but I am waiting for a reply to my last email.

FatBird

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #468 on: February 23, 2014, 01:40:53 AM »
@ Skribat


THANK YOU for keeping us up to date with the Brazil news.


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skribat

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #469 on: February 23, 2014, 11:02:56 AM »
a true sceptic is one who qeustions the questionner .. 
I think they have been working on this for too long for there to be nothing ..  and they had working units installed in locations, why would the police be sent to confiscate them if they didn't work?  and why aren't the people who had them shouting fraud .. because they are not. I think they have something the claimed overunity (6.4) is within the range of other claimed devices of the same type, anything up to 10 times.
Remember  Paul Pantone the Geet inventor who was sent to jail for three and a half years when the authority said he was working a scam? .. after other people began replicating the Geet device they had to release eighteen months into his sentence. .. .. and what about Cold fusion, now a reality after the original scientist inventors were ridiculed for forty years ..

Believe, just a little .. it is only natural that after working many years and at considerable cost inventors want to try to protect the investment they have put in .. eventually like the Geet and others the design principles may become open source.
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Cap-Z-ro

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #470 on: February 23, 2014, 12:14:27 PM »
a true sceptic is one who qeustions the questionner .. 
I think they have been working on this for too long for there to be nothing ..  and they had working units installed in locations, why would the police be sent to confiscate them if they didn't work?  and why aren't the people who had them shouting fraud .. because they are not. I think they have something the claimed overunity (6.4) is within the range of other claimed devices of the same type, anything up to 10 times.
Remember  Paul Pantone the Geet inventor who was sent to jail for three and a half years when the authority said he was working a scam? .. after other people began replicating the Geet device they had to release eighteen months into his sentence. .. .. and what about Cold fusion, now a reality after the original scientist inventors were ridiculed for forty years ..

Believe, just a little .. it is only natural that after working many years and at considerable cost inventors want to try to protect the investment they have put in .. eventually like the Geet and others the design principles may become open source.
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" a true sceptic is one who qeustions the questionner .. "


Nailed it !


I hope the boys from Brazil soon realize that their best move right now would be to open source their work, and derail the corrupt global elite's plans for human domination.

They would be heros around the world, and be well taken care of wherever they traveled on the planet.

Regards...


FatBird

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #471 on: February 23, 2014, 01:36:07 PM »
@ Cap-Z-Ro


Excellent point about how they should just Open Source everything.


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Cap-Z-ro

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #472 on: February 23, 2014, 01:43:54 PM »
And what better way to respond to the repression they are experiencing FB.

If but a small fraction of people receiving 'freedom' energy from their technology were to donater a dollar to them, they would be rich beyond their wildest dreams...without havin g to lift another finger on production and marketing.

Sure hope they see this and see the wisdom in taking this action.

Regards...



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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #473 on: February 24, 2014, 07:36:44 AM »
Hi All,

Well, I always agree with the point about the OU community will join hands to buy Open Source Products, inventor FE devices actually have it for sale. With a large community development in many countries, not a force of any government can suppress this energy source. . .

skribat

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #474 on: February 24, 2014, 11:38:39 AM »
If it is all this simple as shown in their patent then why do they fill their units with red epoxy to hide their device from reverse engineering?   I think they have left something out of the patent as many inventors do and that is the secret of their 'energy Captor'.    I would suspect some fort of oscillator using high power MosFets.

if you listen to the video ..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=SvcrqODpDY4#t=40

it works like this .. after an initial power up from an external source a magnetic sensor begins to rotate creating what is known as over-unity power ..

fer123

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #475 on: February 25, 2014, 11:34:58 PM »
This guy call Djeson from brasil did advance a lot in barbobasa leal replica this is the link   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mAWlAODvxc&list=UUzmFHz5VoNAdTBcNHlYrZVg&feature=share enjoy.

Shokac

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #476 on: February 27, 2014, 01:30:58 PM »
Look this pictures!

Is this energy from ground or energy to ground without power meter? ???

DaS Energy

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #477 on: February 27, 2014, 01:41:57 PM »
"Look at the pictures"

Five wires to the device top picture! Three wires to the device bottom picture!

Correction by page expansion! Actually five wires present both picture!!

Shokac

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #478 on: February 27, 2014, 02:22:28 PM »
"Look at the pictures"

Five wires to the device top picture! Three wires to the device bottom picture!

Correction by page expansion! Actually five wires present both picture!!

I see that you do not understand what I'm saying!

dllabarre

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #479 on: February 27, 2014, 08:07:35 PM »
Look this pictures!

Is this energy from ground or energy to ground without power meter? ???

I know that with clamp meters the direction the wire goes through the clamps determines which direction you're measuring the current.
And the difference between the pictures is that all the wires do not go through the clamps in the same direction.
So he is measuring one of the wires with the current going in the opposite direction.
I don't use clamps meters so I can't tell you from the picture which way the current is flowing.

How about you just tell us in detail what you are seeing?   ;D

DonL