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Author Topic: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal  (Read 1741597 times)

phoneboy

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #360 on: January 19, 2014, 09:51:06 PM »
@havuhung, just musing so don't shoot me on this. The single loop "secondary" has an induced current in it resulting in a magnetic field, the grounded conductor/coil wrapped around it is parallel to the magnetic field/perpendicular to the induced  e-field and experiences charge separation. These charges are influenced by the magnetic field of the loop causing them to spin like in a cyclotron, emitting radiation?? Maybee that's the emission there are showing in one of the illustrations??

FatBird

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #361 on: January 19, 2014, 10:51:54 PM »
Click on the Link below to see some guys working on this at a different site:
Maybe we can get some FRESH IDEAS to post here?

http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php


The Thread Title there is:   Overunity With NO Diodes, No Transistors, No Chips, No Gravity Wheels.
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FatBird

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #362 on: January 20, 2014, 01:58:50 AM »
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a.king21

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #363 on: January 20, 2014, 02:24:30 AM »
There is one thing we are all missing and it is staring us in the face.
The diagram is NOT an ordinary trafo.
I know of no trafo with so much space around the coil.
Could that be the "secret"?

truongcongduc4

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #364 on: January 20, 2014, 02:33:14 AM »
@truongcongduc4,
These questions and your ideas prove that you do not have in-depth knowledge of the electricity industry class! . .
Những câu hỏi và ý tưởng của bạn chứng tỏ rằng: Bạn không có kiến thức trường lớp chuyên sâu về ngành Điện! . .
Yes. You are right. So I need your help.

forest

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #365 on: January 20, 2014, 10:49:08 AM »
Yes. You are right. So I need your help.


Don't give up. Edison has no formal education , ...me too..... ::)

truongcongduc4

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #366 on: January 20, 2014, 04:13:57 PM »
@havuhung, just musing so don't shoot me on this. The single loop "secondary" has an induced current in it resulting in a magnetic field, the grounded conductor/coil wrapped around it is parallel to the magnetic field/perpendicular to the induced  e-field and experiences charge separation. These charges are influenced by the magnetic field of the loop causing them to spin like in a cyclotron, emitting radiation?? Maybee that's the emission there are showing in one of the illustrations??
Yes, that's what I want to tell you. Please think about it.

havuhung

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #367 on: January 20, 2014, 06:29:23 PM »
Yes, that's what I want to tell you. Please think about it.
@truongcongduc4
With a power transformer primary winding and secondary curricula simply refer to electricity is done. (No need to consider in which electrons do! Because generally we've inherited the master formula retransmission.)
With a FE device you look objectively reasonable if it is or not! for example: You stand on the shore of a lake, holding your hand alone (that is not a force any) a tube dipped into the water in the lake, you will guide your hand above the head tube in a cup of water to flow into the ly for you! Same thing for you to extract electrical equipment from the ground! Let's try a little thought about this.

Với một biến thế điện có cuộn sơ cấp và thứ cấp chỉ cần tham khảo giáo trình điện là xong.(Không cần phải xem xét electron chạy trong đó như thế nào! vì  nói chung ta đã được thừa hưởng công thức của các bậc thầy truyền lại.)
Với một thiết bị FE bạn hãy nhìn khách quan xem nó có hợp lý hay không! ví dụ: Bạn đứng trên bờ một hồ nước,tay bạn cầm yên(có nghĩa là không bất kỳ một lực) một chiếc ống nhúng sâu vào nước trong hồ, bạn sẽ hướng đầu ống phía trên tay bạn vào một chiếc ly để nước chảy vào chiếc ly cho bạn !!! Điều tương tự cho bạn với thiết bị trích xuất điện từ mặt đất ! Hãy thử một chút suy nghĩ về điều này.

havuhung

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #368 on: January 20, 2014, 07:05:57 PM »
@havuhung, just musing so don't shoot me on this. The single loop "secondary" has an induced current in it resulting in a magnetic field, the grounded conductor/coil wrapped around it is parallel to the magnetic field/perpendicular to the induced  e-field and experiences charge separation. These charges are influenced by the magnetic field of the loop causing them to spin like in a cyclotron, emitting radiation?? Maybee that's the emission there are showing in one of the illustrations??
Hi @phoneboy,
With the frequency of the loop diagram indicates it will be equal to the frequency of the regional electricity grid (50/60 Hz). With this frequency will not happen effects you're talking about!  :D

Neofln

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #369 on: January 20, 2014, 10:05:55 PM »

"IMO if Barbosa and Leal really wanted to impress the people they would use a small, pure sinewave inverter, to power the device, after all they are claiming 22 watts input and 6000 out, why would they want to use the grid to power the device? It does not make sense." earthenergy

Sorry friend, but like they, i live in Brazil, use the grid to power the device is the unique way to do something like this work and get some money, without die.

FatBird

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #370 on: January 21, 2014, 01:44:09 AM »
@ Neofln,

Since you live in Brazil, is there any way you could take a camera photo, or cell phone picture of the inside of their smallest unit?
Maybe tell them you want to make sure there aren't any batteries in there??

Thanks.


                                     

ariovaldo

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #371 on: January 21, 2014, 02:29:56 AM »
Those boxes has epoxy all the way over :-X .




truongcongduc4

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #372 on: January 21, 2014, 12:09:29 PM »
I wish that Barbosa and Leal will sell their products in this month and we can discover their secret.

FatBird

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #373 on: January 24, 2014, 05:11:30 PM »
Does anybody have any new news, or new ideas?

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FatBird

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #374 on: January 24, 2014, 09:11:22 PM »
There must be something wrong with this site,
because photos aren't showing up anymore.


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