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Author Topic: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal  (Read 1732242 times)

lancaIV

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #240 on: December 21, 2013, 07:49:41 AM »
From the Herbert Adolf Zielinski list:
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?compact=false&ST=advanced&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&PA=adolf+zielinski
taking out this one:
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=14&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19881212&CC=FI&NR=885754A&KC=A
and there are the coil-winding informations-for 900KW output- bringing down to 5KW output: Kg ?
listend above also the superconductor producing process -thermal shock-


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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #241 on: December 23, 2013, 12:42:40 AM »
 They say their device will power homes and automobiles. With that said and it being noted that it is a mobile device, where does getting electrons from the earth come into play when it is portable and not attached to the earth?
 Something sounds fishy about this. I can see someone being able to build a device that would attract a vibrance that would multiply a vibrance being used to create more power output then input but I dont think this is it. Atleast not as presented. The pending patent does not explain enough. Atleast not for me.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #242 on: December 23, 2013, 07:09:06 AM »
May I ask you this question ? I think it is not simple one or two turns for the earth connection.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #243 on: December 23, 2013, 11:30:08 AM »
May I ask you this question ? I think it is not simple one or two turns for the earth connection.
Hi All,
My idea is likely to be an large surface, thus absorb more charge transfer from the ground up, and see if the idea is reasonable, there will be composed almost a capacitor, not just a few turns of wire!
                                           
Regards.   

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #244 on: December 23, 2013, 03:08:54 PM »
I think you are right, that it will take more than 5 or 10 turns.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #245 on: December 23, 2013, 04:18:54 PM »
A secondary encased in a copper or aluminum tube for induction

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #246 on: December 24, 2013, 04:53:30 PM »
One more question. Where is the best point to put the earth connection?
The best point is in the centre of 2 turns coil. But you may make a mistake. Please don't forget. See these images for more detail.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #247 on: December 24, 2013, 06:38:11 PM »
One more question. Where is the best point to put the earth connection?
The best point is in the centre of 2 turns coil. But you may make a mistake. Please don't forget. See these images for more detail.
Hi @truongcongduc4
Drawing on patent never shown true for all: They kept the (secret technology)! . .


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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #248 on: December 25, 2013, 05:40:06 AM »
Just make the experiment to test this case. :D Think it simple.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #249 on: December 25, 2013, 08:12:36 AM »
Gửi bạn Trương Công Đức , bạn đang ở đâu vậy?

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #250 on: December 25, 2013, 08:20:06 AM »
Gửi bạn Trương Công Đức 4 : bạn không cần thí nghiệm , tôi đã làm rồi . Kết quả đúng là dòng thứ cấp đã tăng lên gần 100 lần. Lúc đầu , tôi cứ nghĩ là do ngắn mạch . Nhưng không phải vậy. Ngắn mạch chỉ tăng được khoảng 30 lần thôi. Tôi là người Việt đang sống ở Hải Phòng. Bạn đang ở đâu vậy : Mỹ, Đức ...(ta có thể nói chuyện bằng tiếng Việt mà!)

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #251 on: December 25, 2013, 09:03:19 AM »
tonygiang



xin lỗi, chúng tôi không thể nói tiếng Việt, chúng tôi chỉ có thể sử dụng tiếng Anh
nhưng nó rất thú vị những gì bạn nói

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #252 on: December 25, 2013, 10:48:10 AM »
Hi all!
I'm sorry , but I think he was Vietnames and love mother tongue .
So, and I don't like Barbosa's design however very high its COP . I think Thane's design best. It undependence to the Earth.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #253 on: December 25, 2013, 10:58:00 AM »
Gửi bạn Trương Công Đức 4 : bạn không cần thí nghiệm , tôi đã làm rồi . Kết quả đúng là dòng thứ cấp đã tăng lên gần 100 lần. Lúc đầu , tôi cứ nghĩ là do ngắn mạch . Nhưng không phải vậy. Ngắn mạch chỉ tăng được khoảng 30 lần thôi. Tôi là người Việt đang sống ở Hải Phòng. Bạn đang ở đâu vậy : Mỹ, Đức ...(ta có thể nói chuyện bằng tiếng Việt mà!)
Chào Mọi Người, bạn @tonygiang

Gặp nhau trên diễn đàn này rất ít người Việt. Bạn đã thực hiện thí nghiệm thiết bị này? kết quả đạt đến mức khã quan thế nào rồi? Bạn hãy chia sẻ cho mọi thành viên cùng biết. Nói thực ra tôi vẫn luôn nghi ngờ thiết bị này không thực sự  làm việc như lời của nhà sáng chế !

Chúc sức khỏe.

havuhung

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #254 on: December 25, 2013, 03:32:54 PM »
Hello @tonygiang;
Please share us your result.
Thanks,