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Author Topic: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal  (Read 1732225 times)

vrand

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #120 on: October 08, 2013, 09:34:09 AM »
Barbosa leal replication  081013  yt  totoalas      using carlos schematic


You mentioned earlier of using 6 mm stranded wire for the loop, did you find that the power output was higher with the larger wire?
What was your input to output power level results?
Thanks for sharing your experiment results on this very interesting design.
Cheers

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #121 on: October 08, 2013, 01:53:56 PM »
Is the energy coming from the ground or the long transmission line, if you notice their ground line is long as well.
Would a long bifilar connected to ground work  ;)

Are we seeing a common denominator here with all these devices.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #122 on: October 08, 2013, 03:03:44 PM »
Maybe  :D

totoalas

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #123 on: October 08, 2013, 05:08:40 PM »

You mentioned earlier of using 6 mm stranded wire for the loop, did you find that the power output was higher with the larger wire?
What was your input to output power level results?
Thanks for sharing your experiment results on this very interesting design.
Cheers
Yes on the loop only .... never measured on the light bub yet   but the loop cable surely will melt with this current just like touching a hot iron

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #124 on: October 08, 2013, 05:42:55 PM »
Maybe  :D


Talking about windings on an earth ground  ;)


Here is a youtube on
Stubblefield Earth Cell Battery Demonstration
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmNoLfjIEac
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This is a demonstration of Nathan Stubblefield's invention, the Earth Cell Battery, patented in 1898 (patent no 600,457). It is a coil that when immersed in the earth's surface taps telluric currents of the earth that can be read with a voltimeter.
Two different wires wound on coil then berried in ground, insulated copper wire and iron wire.


vrand

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #125 on: October 08, 2013, 05:51:07 PM »
Yes on the loop only .... never measured on the light bub yet   but the loop cable surely will melt with this current just like touching a hot iron


Any special ground designs used? Barbosa also had an aerial patent design that did not need a ground connection? 

totoalas

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #126 on: October 08, 2013, 06:31:19 PM »

Any special ground designs used? Barbosa also had an aerial patent design that did not need a ground connection?
Output current measured on the bulb is 0.3 Amps
The loop cable temperature rise from 25 to 70 deg C at the termination point of the end loop cable in 5 minutes which melted the plastic in the terminal block
The reason for the heat at the termination end of the loop is it must pass to a coil to absorb the heat and not to a 2 turn coil I made   ...  Carlos used the third coil to close the loop....   mine used the two turn coil from same wire loop
 

The earth ground is another circuit   thats another test
from my tests   we just need to put the right size of third transformer  for ex   1 kw for air conditioning   never tried it yet
 

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #127 on: October 08, 2013, 06:56:26 PM »
Output current measured on the bulb is 0.3 Amps
The loop cable temperature rise from 25 to 70 deg C at the termination point of the end loop cable in 5 minutes which melted the plastic in the terminal block
The reason for the heat at the termination end of the loop is it must pass to a coil to absorb the heat and not to a 2 turn coil I made   ...  Carlos used the third coil to close the loop....   mine used the two turn coil from same wire loop
 

The earth ground is another circuit   thats another test
from my tests   we just need to put the right size of third transformer  for ex   1 kw for air conditioning   never tried it yet


Is your setup with 2 transformers, or 3 like Carlos?  If 2 do you plan on trying out with 3 transformers?




totoalas

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #128 on: October 08, 2013, 06:59:52 PM »
my set up used 3 transformers with the third   as output tothe 60 watts lamp
Carlos has confirmed the set up and in the right direction and explore
 
 

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #129 on: October 08, 2013, 07:08:11 PM »
my set up used 3 transformers with the third   as output tothe 60 watts lamp
Carlos has confirmed the set up and in the right direction and explore


Okay, thank you for the description. Please post a photo or video when you get a chance, as a picture is worth a thousand words  :)

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #130 on: October 08, 2013, 07:09:50 PM »

Is your setup with 2 transformers, or 3 like Carlos?  If 2 do you plan on trying out with 3 transformers?


I tried several configurations and none of them got OU. I got some others ideas and I share with you guys.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=yp57lgCXc4I


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Y3E5gLvc25o


In the first video, 2 transformers having 110 volts input in the primary ( transformer 1) and one 100 watts light bulb in the secondary ( transformer 2). The amps in the primary is 4.8A.
In the second video, the same 2 transformer but I put one of them in the top of the other. The amps drops to 2.4 A. The voltage in the secondary still the same.
This was just a test. I connect 3 transformer as my friend Carlos did and I had the same results.
By the way, using 1 transformer ans put 2 turns in the secondary in short circuit, the current goes to more than 100 Amps....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=x8Fo-rjD1ys


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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #131 on: October 08, 2013, 07:22:07 PM »
Maybe  :D


Good. Thinking out of the box.....
I tried that with copper. I will try using different material...Copper and iron for example....


Best Regards




totoalas

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #132 on: October 08, 2013, 07:31:10 PM »

Okay, thank you for the description. Please post a photo or video when you get a chance, as a picture is worth a thousand words  :)

ps check barbosa leal replication  081013  youtube   totoalas

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #133 on: October 08, 2013, 07:41:42 PM »

ps check barbosa leal replication  081013  youtube   totoalas


Thank you for posting the videos.  Was there a separate ground wire connection (loops?) to your added large closed loop coil wire?  Where did the ground wire tie to?  Building ground wire system or separate ground rod outside?

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #134 on: October 08, 2013, 07:42:08 PM »

ps check barbosa leal replication  081013  youtube   totoalas


Good job my friend.
Thanks for sharing.