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Author Topic: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal  (Read 1490659 times)

Offline Google

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #555 on: March 17, 2014, 03:28:57 PM »
A signature campaign by Barbosa and Leil on avaaz.org reads the following :

CEMAR ENERGY COMPANY MARANHÃO IS IN FRANCE TO CHASE THE INVENTORS CAPTOR ELECTRON: NILSON BARBOSA Cleriston LOYAL AND ABOUT TO DETERMINE THE PRISON OF CAUSING THEM BIG Bully

A CEMAR COMPANHIA DE ENERGIA DO MARANHÃO ESTA EM FRANCA PERSEGUIÇÃO AOS INVENTORES DO CAPTOR DE ELÉTRONS:NILSON BARBOSA E CLÉRISTON LEAL A PONTO DE DETERMINAR A PRISÃO DOS MESMOS CAUSANDO GRANDE INTIM

Whats happening guys, anyone knows about this in details ??

Best,

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #556 on: March 17, 2014, 04:28:50 PM »
1. The Electron Charge Funnel(Electron Captor) was design to be step down transformer into a usable Voltage, but the resulting Voltage is still High Frequency on my set up. If they had much more enough imagination they wouldn't need any battery at all ;D they needed only some high value Capacitor Bank as replacement of the Battery.

2. They filter the output into FWBR to charge those battery. The purpose of  DC output is to filter the HF AC that is very difficult to lower the
frequency. They had used the already made device for simplicity.

@ Ariovaldo. Why does your test fails  because you don't understand clearly what is the purpose of the Earth Grounding.

Kapanadze Quote: " The secret is so simple that you'll laugh" LOL  ;D ;D ;D

Dear stupify12,

We all shall be very much obliged to you if you can please tell us in simple words, how to replicate the Barbosa and Leil generator, maybe for 100 to 200 watt output only.

You seem to be quite knowlegeable about Tesla patents and its applications in building free energy devices.

Please make a simple schematic, where we can buy radio shack parts and make a small working prototype with proper earth grounding etc.

Please make a schematic in which we can use a capacitor bank instead of a battery.

Awaiting your kind response.

Best,

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #557 on: March 17, 2014, 10:37:10 PM »
Hello ALL,

The truth is, I believe this device to be a "dead end".  BUT there is something to be learned when playing with closed current loops as it pertains to S.M. Kicks and the TPU is what I will tell you.

I have had over 200 amps in my current loop.  It will not go to ground.  Resistance of any sort kills the effect.  there is NO WAY to use the amperage, but ONLY the magnetic field associated with it.  Or the heat.  That IS the truth of the matter.

Once the current is in the loop, caused by Lenz's Law, it is not coming out.  YOU must think of HOW to use the magnetic field of said current.  That is all I can say.

Ground from the current loop is a WASTE of time.  In my humble opinion after MUCH experimentation in two labs.

Play with closed current loops and think for yourselves.  Tedious, but not hard.

Cheers,

Bruce


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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #558 on: March 17, 2014, 11:20:00 PM »
                     Happy birthday -25 years jubilee- open source :
[0040] To clarify the operation of this embodiment according to the in-vention, the following dimensioning of the transformer windings is given using Figure 17 as an example, the iron cores being dimensioned in accordance with the manner usual for transformers:
- winding 81: 100 windings, 220 V/50 Hz, 5 A at full load;
- winding 82: 1 winding, 5000 A;
- winding 84: 1000 windings, 5000 A;
- winding 85: 1100 windings, 4500 A, 220 V/50 Hz.

 [0041] From the above example it is evident that, with a coil 82 having 5000 ampere windings, a flux variation of 5000000 ampere windings can be generated with the superconducting coil 84. Accordingly, a generated power of 990 kW can be drawn from the terminals 89 for a power supplied to the connecting terminals 88 of 1.1 kW, and this corresponds to a power gain of approximately a factor of 1000                                   

                                                                 superconducting= super low resistance

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hi, do you have a video of this please / and can you prove these findings? thanks.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #559 on: March 18, 2014, 02:22:20 AM »
Dear Bruce,

Can you suggest a simple circuit schematic to make a current loop to generate high magnetic field. Actually most of us are sort of dumb and do not understand riddles. And there are already enough people who have been talking in riddles on the overunity forum since many years.

Entire humanity shall be grateful to you if you could free us from the shackles of energy elites ruling the world. Your name shall be written in golden words in the history of energy generation.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #560 on: March 18, 2014, 09:30:28 AM »
A signature campaign by Barbosa and Leil on avaaz.org reads the following :

CEMAR ENERGY COMPANY MARANHÃO IS IN FRANCE TO CHASE THE INVENTORS CAPTOR ELECTRON: NILSON BARBOSA Cleriston LOYAL AND ABOUT TO DETERMINE THE PRISON OF CAUSING THEM BIG Bully

A CEMAR COMPANHIA DE ENERGIA DO MARANHÃO ESTA EM FRANCA PERSEGUIÇÃO AOS INVENTORES DO CAPTOR DE ELÉTRONS:NILSON BARBOSA E CLÉRISTON LEAL A PONTO DE DETERMINAR A PRISÃO DOS MESMOS CAUSANDO GRANDE INTIM

Whats happening guys, anyone knows about this in details ??

Best,
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I have a little news which I am not happy to hear .. ... ... my contact says ..
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The news i have are not so good at all.

A man i know little has been in contact with with Barbosa by cellphone. After some talks this man reached the conclusion that the Barbosa´s  device is just a way to fool the meters and not a really energy amplifier as seem to be the Kapanadze.

Anyhow we will invite him to be  here at our city to the Free Software event at May. It he comes and if he bring with him a Captor we will have the opportunity to really exam this piece of equipment.

By the way, do you know any reposts about people trying to replicate the Kapanadze´s device ?

That report by  Jean-Louis Naudin about Kapanadze was not so good at all as he reached only COP < 1.

Best
Thomas .... ....  [ remember they ran the device from a battery also, fool the meters?]
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My personal feeling is that they do have something, if they just wanted to take the money and run they would have gone by now they are getting a lot of agro .. also I think the same of Kapanadze and the other devices, there is something.  Maybe they are using the energy source as an earth battery or a capacitor and by using a pulse generator they are magnifying the natural frequency to pump it out or release it. Imagine the device as a water pump taking water from the ground, for example the heat pump like the ' Thermo-Syphon '  it is not over unity or perpetual but it is very useful, note it does not use a common energy source.   I am thinking that people such as the Brazilians, Kapanadze and others are using the same principles lets say magnifying natural frequencies to cause flow in one direction for example, a/c current. translation of pendulum movement into rotational etc. the principle is always there use of an outside energy source to magnify a resonant frequency. one more example  remember when you used to go swimming and make waves in the pool with your pals? .. a few people can move an enormous amount of water which splashed out of the pool and you were only a few kids (an outside energy source) 

I think they have something which they don't fully understand yet, I also think there are people who will try to make them look ridiculous so that people won't believe what is happening and won't take it seriously.  It was said when the motor car was invented that if you were to travel faster than 20mph you would not be able to breath and would die .. they said man would never be able to fly, and that if you walked too far you would fall off the edge of the earth.  We are explorers, whatever we can dream has the potential to become possible one day .. remove the resistance.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #561 on: March 18, 2014, 10:38:34 AM »
Just an update, I'm almost ready to run my second experiment. Almost setup, unless I see something interesting I won't bother with any video.

I've decided this test will be to use the grid neutral (which is grounded by the house ground) and the High current loop (which will be grounded to my own personal ground stake) as the output, ignoring the existing LV windings on the transformer. I'm looking at it and visualizing the circuit in operation and all I see is a small difference in potential or Phase between the two grounded points. I do not see what else could happen, both output lines are connected to the ground. I fail to see how anything unconventional will happen. The neutral line from the grid is grounded and the high current loop is grounded if both grounds are good then the potential difference should be small, a few volts at most, likely less than 1 volt. But I'll try it anyway. It just doesn't make any sense.

I've got one loop of 8 mm cable for the loop around the transformer with a air loop for measuring the current in the loop.

The circuit will go from the grid to a safety switch then the energy meter then the variac then the transformers 240 volt winding. The neutral of the grid will be one output leg and the grounded high current loop will be the other output leg as shown in the drawing in my previous post, the drawing in the red box.

Cheers

P.S. when I look at the device opened up in the pictures does it show the thick cable wrapped around the outside of the toroid core and not through it ?

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #562 on: March 18, 2014, 10:56:56 AM »
Just an update, I'm almost ready to run my second experiment. Almost setup, unless I see something interesting I won't bother with any video.

I've decided this test will be to use the grid neutral (which is grounded by the house ground) and the High current loop (which will be grounded to my own personal ground stake) as the output, ignoring the existing LV windings on the transformer. I'm looking at it and visualizing the circuit in operation and all I see is a small difference in potential or Phase between the two grounded points. I do not see what else could happen, both output lines are connected to the ground. I fail to see how anything unconventional will happen. The neutral line from the grid is grounded and the high current loop is grounded if both grounds are good then the potential difference should be small, a few volts at most, likely less than 1 volt. But I'll try it anyway. It just doesn't make any sense.

I've got one loop of 8 mm cable for the loop around the transformer with a air loop for measuring the current in the loop.

The circuit will go from the grid to a safety switch then the energy meter then the variac then the transformers 240 volt winding. The neutral of the grid will be one output leg and the grounded high current loop will be the other output leg as shown in the drawing in my previous post, the drawing in the red box.

Cheers

P.S. when I look at the device opened up in the pictures does it show the thick cable wrapped around the outside of the toroid core and not through it ?

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Hi at the moment we are experimenting so anything goes if it seems to be safe yes .. did you try reversing the ground connections. and did you try dissimilar materials/ metals for the earthing rods,  maybe as with the earth battery it makes a difference, eg one copper and one zinc (galvanised) this is what Kapanadze used (a copper radiator buried in the ground and the galvanised steel water pipe. if you look at the best metals for the earth battery electrodes there is a list of best pairs/ combinations to use. maybe it won't make a difference unless somebody tries it we won't know. just another possibility, I assume also it requires and oscillator or as with Kapanadze again a spark device and a load, it seems to not produce current unless you are drawing it off in use.  maybe you have already thought of all this.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #563 on: March 18, 2014, 11:20:18 AM »
Yes, well my ground stake is a 6.5 foot galvanized steel fence picket all the way in the ground but the house grounds are copper rods, the house wiring system has two ground stakes, one at the house by the fuse box and one at the work shed by the circuit breaker box there. My ground stake is in permanently moist ground about 10 meter from the closest house ground. My electric fence for the animals has two gal. steel pickets it is about 50 meters from my ground stake, I can pick up the electric fence impulse by scoping my ground stake connected to a coil.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #564 on: March 18, 2014, 12:25:12 PM »
WOWEE, With only 100 volts to the 240 volt winding the input goes to 33 Watts and the single loop of 8mm cable has 188 amperes of current flowing in it and it gets quite warm. Usual idle power input for the transformer is a couple of Watts. In my opinion if I took it to 240 volts input it would hit the current limit of the 8mm copper cable, not sure what that would be, any idea's ? The input would be fairly high as well, maybe 80 to 100 Watts. Maybe I need thicker wire or two of them paralleled. Anyway I'll continue and see if the insulation melts or not. hehehehe

I think it's a fire hazard.  :(

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #565 on: March 18, 2014, 12:28:12 PM »
Farmhand: I am finding it hard to visualize what you are experimenting with. Any chance of a schematic?

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #566 on: March 18, 2014, 01:05:56 PM »
OK I think I might video tape this, with about 50 volts into the transformer 240 volt winding I'm getting a small voltage 1.7 to 1.8v which seems to have some impedance behind it because when I tried to short the grid neutral line to my ground the safety switch tripped open and cut the grid power, the active line was not touched, this means there was at least 30 mA of current that went between the grid neutral and my ground stake,either out of the house current loop or into it, which in turn caused a current mismatch on the house wires and this trips the safety switch. Which is not a good sign for the device if a safety switch is used, I cannot tell which way the current went though. My intuition says it went from house neutral to my ground, if it went the other way that would be interesting. Thinking...... Maybe an isolation transformer would stop the safety switch from tripping but also negate the effect.

AKing, It's exactly as Barbosa and Leal drawing on the previous page, the small schematic with the red paint square I put around it. I will post a schematic soon, hand drawn to make it quick, but it will be clear, and if I do make a video clip it will show the entire setup. please bear with me.  :)

If anyone experiments with the grid power without proper caution the risk is death, please, everyone stay alive. I don't recommend it, but I am nobody's boss. reminders to be careful cannot happen too much in my opinion, sorry to ramble about safety. I know were risk takers but getting dropped by the grid is not fun.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #567 on: March 18, 2014, 01:15:21 PM »
Dear farmhand,

Please be careful of what you are doing. You are actually playing with official gridline and earthing.

We need you on the forum, please take all the safety precautions. If barbosa and leil are clandestinely stealing grid power, not many people will be interested in buying their product, IMHO.

Best,

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #568 on: March 18, 2014, 01:23:09 PM »
Google
It would seem from your comment that you have not been following Farmhands work on this, nor his opinion on the topic and their claims.
 
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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #569 on: March 18, 2014, 01:28:37 PM »
The comment is only as a well wisher. No undertones in it please.

Best,

 

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