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Author Topic: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal  (Read 1502124 times)

Offline FatBird

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #510 on: March 04, 2014, 02:24:32 PM »
@ stupify12   or   Ariovaldo,

Both of you seem to know a lot about the Captor.  Looking at the patent diagram below, is this how they work?

1.  The Captor outputs a LOW voltage and needs to charge a battery.
2.  An invertor boosts the 12V battery DC voltage up to 230 Volts AC.

Does this sound right to you?
I am trying to figure out if the Captor can OUTPUT 230 V AC, ALL BY ITSELF, or just a LOW VOLTAGE and thus needs batteries.

Thanks.
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Offline fer123

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #511 on: March 04, 2014, 02:49:16 PM »
Mr ariovaldo can you show more picture? I'm afraid you despaired from site and keep the information hidden. Thanks.

Offline Shokac

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #512 on: March 04, 2014, 02:50:41 PM »
Just to feed the imagination....






Best Regards


Ariovaldo

Arivaldo!

Good picture!
Can you open all secret?

Shokac

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #513 on: March 04, 2014, 03:27:38 PM »
Arivaldo!

Good picture!
Can you open all secret?

Shokac


As I said, I'm 95% sure the device doesn't work, but there is one more test that needs to be done and I'm waiting to build a good grounding system to test the "grounding loop effect". 



Offline totoalas

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #514 on: March 04, 2014, 06:33:39 PM »

As I said, I'm 95% sure the device doesn't work, but there is one more test that needs to be done and I'm waiting to build a good grounding system to test the "grounding loop effect".
if you had that picture  then no more questions on the validity....  well just wait to hear from you again   thanks for sharing 8)

Offline stupify12

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #515 on: March 04, 2014, 07:08:26 PM »
1. The Electron Charge Funnel(Electron Captor) was design to be step down transformer into a usable Voltage, but the resulting Voltage is still High Frequency on my set up. If they had much more enough imagination they wouldn't need any battery at all ;D they needed only some high value Capacitor Bank as replacement of the Battery.

2. They filter the output into FWBR to charge those battery. The purpose of  DC output is to filter the HF AC that is very difficult to lower the
frequency. They had used the already made device for simplicity.

@ Ariovaldo. Why does your test fails  because you don't understand clearly what is the purpose of the Earth Grounding.

Kapanadze Quote: " The secret is so simple that you'll laugh" LOL  ;D ;D ;D

@ stupify12   or   Ariovaldo,

Both of you seem to know a lot about the Captor.  Looking at the patent diagram below, is this how they work?

1.  The Captor outputs a LOW voltage and needs to charge a battery.
2.  An invertor boosts the 12V battery DC voltage up to 230 Volts AC.

Does this sound right to you?
I am trying to figure out if the Captor can OUTPUT 230 V AC, ALL BY ITSELF, or just a LOW VOLTAGE and thus needs batteries.

Thanks.
                                                                               .

Offline ariovaldo

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #516 on: March 04, 2014, 07:20:59 PM »
1. The Electron Charge Funnel(Electron Captor) was design to be step down transformer into a usable Voltage, but the resulting Voltage is still High Frequency on my set up. If they had much more enough imagination they wouldn't need any battery at all ;D they needed only some high value Capacitor Bank as replacement of the Battery.

2. They filter the output into FWBR to charge those battery. The purpose of  DC output is to filter the HF AC that is very difficult to lower the
frequency. They had used the already made device for simplicity.

@ Ariovaldo. Why does your test fails  because you don't understand clearly what is the purpose of the Earth Grounding.

Kapanadze Quote: " The secret is so simple that you'll laugh" LOL  ;D ;D ;D


Ok, you are right, I don't understand...
 

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #517 on: March 04, 2014, 08:06:21 PM »
Mr stupify12, What do you think about having a toroid whit 600 a 1000 turns in primary( 0.6h is most important) plus big wire  for turns in secondary connected to?( other toroid, plus transformer for load all close loop whit big wire,  plus earth wire connected to load transformer?.

Offline stupify12

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #518 on: March 04, 2014, 08:47:08 PM »
There are Two Transformer. First Transformer Step UP the Low Voltage we input into HV. The HV potential then is feed to a Step Down Transformer, The Secondary output now is LOw Voltage. The Close Loop is Between the Secondary HV of the First Transformer and HV PRIMARY OF the SEcond Transformer Through Conduction of TWO Ground/Earth Points. 

With the Two Ground/Earth Points the Oscillation we input on the First Transformer is being Tranmitted to the Second Transformer which at the same time the Electron they say is being suck up /Charge Pump/ Charge Funnel. The real reason why so many replicator failed to build a
This Transformer is the output seem to be no power delivered because all people think that this guys who posted circuit or diagram really tells them the exact and correct diagram.

For example the Picture which Barbosa and Leal showed on their Patent is not actually the working circuit compared to the Description I have given you on this Post.

We all know that there is a mass and very great energy stored on the Ground/Earth we only need to input a small amount of energy to disturb this Energy.

The Two Transformer is resemble like a AutoTransformer with STEP DOWN and STEP UP COmbination. More like what we have on our Electrical Distribution Line.




Mr stupify12, What do you think about having a toroid whit 600 a 1000 turns in primary( 0.6h is most important) plus big wire  for turns in secondary connected to?( other toroid, plus transformer for load all close loop whit big wire,  plus earth wire connected to load transformer?.

Offline Shokac

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #519 on: March 04, 2014, 09:03:31 PM »

As I said, I'm 95% sure the device doesn't work, but there is one more test that needs to be done and I'm waiting to build a good grounding system to test the "grounding loop effect".

OK!

Can you bay for me and for you ticket for Foudbal game of Croatia and Brazil? :-)

Offline ariovaldo

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #520 on: March 04, 2014, 09:16:58 PM »
OK!

Can you bay for me and for you ticket for Foudbal game of Croatia and Brazil? :-)


Sorry, but I'm living in Florida.


Ariovaldo

Offline forest

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #521 on: March 04, 2014, 09:25:35 PM »
Picture would be better to understand...  ::)

Offline ariovaldo

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #522 on: March 04, 2014, 09:47:28 PM »
Picture would be better to understand...  ::)

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #523 on: March 04, 2014, 10:53:22 PM »
Thanks stupify12, can be a microwave transformer or need modification?,

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #524 on: March 04, 2014, 11:02:18 PM »
from the picture
3 meters of black cable  with a green cable looped around it same size   50 mm dia
the black cable is inserted into 2 big transformers ( like 2 MOT on top of each other )
the secondary  600 to 1000 T  inserted in the black cable loop for secondary output
lv secondary output goes to bridge rectifier then to battery   to  inverter
Loop grounding scenario
1. per stupify  2 grounds/ earth
    Electric company ground  . water tap /  earth wrapped on the HV   loop
2. electric company ground  to the primary  looped
   water tap  to  lv secondary   looped
   earth   connected to the HV  loop
which is which Stupify  Ariovaldo? ??? 8)