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Author Topic: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal  (Read 1582486 times)

Offline hanon

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #315 on: January 01, 2014, 11:53:34 PM »


Finally I had a good look at their other patents.
One is a Figuera copy, another is a mechanical Bedini copy without the switching.


@a.king21,

Hi, Could you explain the similarities that you have found between the Figuera┬┤s patent and the one by Barbosa and Leal ?

Thanks,

Hanon

Offline a.king21

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #316 on: January 02, 2014, 02:25:46 AM »
Figuera has a 4 trafo at right angles patent. It's not the one we normally look at it's an earlier one.
Barbosa Leal have a similar one.
Just my opinion.
I am not a nay sayer, just a realist. I was hoping they had the Kapanadze secret, but  I don't think so.
However if someone provides some experimental evidence that proves ou I am all ears.
Look, we are all experimenters. Their patent applications will not hold up.
How can a trafo work on DC?
Would you pass such a patent without evidence?
Also their motor generator patent is nonsense.
If anything Bruce De Palma and Bedini have precedence.
I am just being realistic.
But I am also interested in anyone's experimental results, if meaningful.

Offline Shokac

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #317 on: January 02, 2014, 03:24:54 PM »
Watch this video in 1:38 and 2:40.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsPeceaPTUo

Current loop in hoot wire and neutral wire. ????

Offline a.king21

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #318 on: January 02, 2014, 06:47:22 PM »
I am afraid you just cannot trust clamp meters. Dave 45 made a classic mistake with one on the energy amplification
forum just today. It happens to the best of us.
That's one reason why Verpies is designing a foolproof test circuit on the Dally thread.
Of course, a clamp meter is enough to fool would be investors. That is the problem.
Barbosa Leal have also not shown any convincing evidence of a device self running for any length of time.
If someone can post just one piece of independent experimental evidence
then I will be the first to replicate.
There are plenty of patents that have been replicated.
One is by Carlos Benitez.
Another is a Tesla variation on the igniter patent by Tito Oracion.
Another is the TPU by the late Otto
Another is the Colorado Springs variation by the Old scientist.
Then there are the many Bedini replications where individuals are up to COP > 2 at present.
Then there is Angus Wangus who is putting Bedini energy back into the grid - although the jury is still out on that one.
And we have the Akula Kapanadze variations which are self runners.
Also Leedskalin's pmh has been replicated. (I've done 2 myself)
Not to mention the water HHO Stanley Meyer replications by people like Dave Lawton.
Please don't ask me to provide links. I am not a librarian.


Offline romerouk

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #319 on: January 03, 2014, 01:11:37 AM »
@a.king

Looking to patent WO2013185198A1 we must understand that they are referring to a component of a system not the entire generator (Electromagnetic Equipment Capturing Electrons and Generating an Electromagnetic Field)
The transformer shown is not powered with a continuous DC power. Below I am attaching a picture with my view about this part of the generator.
Another possibility is that the transformer shown is not a transformer at all, I mean no iron or other metals core but air core. I understand that the smallest generator is below 2kg. If that is true then 100% there is an air core transformer, just like Kapanadze, in reality air core it the best.
All other Barbosa patents are linked to this one or WO2013104039A1 depending on the source of additional power, Earth or Air.

Best regards,
Romero

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #320 on: January 03, 2014, 01:17:55 AM »
I've never trusted Barbosa leal ever since I spent 2 weeks on an unsuccessful replication attempt.
You can't get a trafo to work on dc. It has to be at least pulsed DC.


BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY:


Brazil uses a system of single wire earth return.
In these countries with SWER you can put 2 earth rods into the ground and steal the grid's electricity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-wire_earth_return


I know someone who did it in New Zealand and he told me how the experiment was conducted. It's better
if the earth rods are far apart.


Sorry to upset you, but truth is better than false hopes.

This is the most significant post in this thread.

Offline FatBird

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #321 on: January 03, 2014, 01:37:23 AM »
Great Post Romerouk,

Yeah, I too am wondering if it has an AIR CORE because just the EMPTY METAL BOX should weigh 3 or 4 pounds.

Looking at the Spec Sheet below (posted on their site) their SMALLEST UNIT weighs 1.5 KG.

http://energiauniversal.eco.br/


Offline earthenergy

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #322 on: January 03, 2014, 02:54:47 AM »
@a.king


Another possibility is that the transformer shown is not a transformer at all, I mean no iron or other metals core but air core. I understand that the smallest generator is below 2kg. If that is true then 100% there is an air core transformer, just like Kapanadze, in reality air core it the best.
All other Barbosa patents are linked to this one or WO2013104039A1 depending on the source of additional power, Earth or Air.

Best regards,
Romero

Thanks for pointing out the weight, that makes sense.

Offline earthenergy

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #323 on: January 03, 2014, 04:38:16 AM »
Here is an exciting overunity transformer, perhaps it is on another thread, but thought I would post here regardless. It is called a joule ringer. No amp meters needed to verify the efficiency of this device.

Not sure how to embed here on OU.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=homZvbKZHlU

This is a newer version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcFHZMhnV2g

Here is the latest, very amazing....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3YWB-noPNo




Offline truongcongduc4

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #324 on: January 03, 2014, 06:42:35 AM »
I have a question. Is there any difference between 2 circuits ?

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #325 on: January 03, 2014, 06:57:28 AM »
Hello all,
Could you please translate these videos to English please? (Full translate)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fujfam9GAQI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11OHuYleYQ4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSTteYaztGk

Maybe we will understand how they can extract free electrons from the ground.

Offline forest

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #326 on: January 03, 2014, 08:01:14 AM »
Nowadays patenting is a tricky process - for example why not just a simple spark gap to ground instead of "captor" ?  :o  Maybe because it was in 1000 patents before ?

Offline romerouk

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #327 on: January 03, 2014, 12:49:10 PM »
More pictures and info about Barbosa generatorThe Electron Captor should use pulsed DC or AC. Best candidate for a quick test is an MOT using the high voltage coil as primary and a secondary loop coil made of coax cable.
In the patent WO2013104043 the system is powered from batteries this way we can eliminate the idea of stealing power from the grid.
What if the plus and minus signs are actually pointing to phase and neutral?

Offline FatBird

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #328 on: January 03, 2014, 01:10:10 PM »
@Romerouk

Great post disclosing the Jumper connection between Coil 3 and Coil 4.
Maybe that's one of the secrets for electrical operation they accidentally disclosed?

Offline Shokac

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #329 on: January 03, 2014, 03:27:24 PM »
Look patent with capturing electron from space. And this picture.

In presentation captor from ground, Barbosa have 3 box connect with ground cabel?!?!?

Secret is in the air captor patent?