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Author Topic: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal  (Read 1480955 times)

Offline totoalas

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #270 on: December 29, 2013, 04:47:40 PM »
Increase the induction conductivity in the secondary loop with ground
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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #271 on: December 30, 2013, 06:41:58 AM »
Think about this image. Extract free electrons from the ground base on the high current in the loop. How to make the current in 5 increase ?

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #272 on: December 30, 2013, 12:23:10 PM »
Hi @truongcongduc4,
 Think about this: The law of conservation of energy is still present, you want to extract from the ground up charge your device (temporarily considered negative charges), you must have a corresponding positive charge to pull it up! Why? As the negatively charged surface did not (generous) to run up to you for free! So how are you (with interest) in terms of energy use??? :D

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #272 on: December 30, 2013, 12:23:10 PM »
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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #273 on: December 30, 2013, 01:37:07 PM »
If I were working on this I would bifilar the secondary one end to ground through diode, pump energy out of the ground.
There's lots of options using bifilar coils on both the primary and secondary, ground connections, antenna connections, outside coils to draw power in, capacitors to bounce energy.
Pump the bemf(positive energy) from a coil into a ground wire and see what you get back.
Im not saying any of this works but open up the system let it breath give yourself options to work with.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #274 on: December 30, 2013, 01:43:39 PM »
Hi @truongcongduc4,
 Think about this: The law of conservation of energy is still present, you want to extract from the ground up charge your device (temporarily considered negative charges), you must have a corresponding positive charge to pull it up! Why? As the negatively charged surface did not (generous) to run up to you for free! So how are you (with interest) in terms of energy use??? :D
Now your talking, I like it.
Use pos to attract neg

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #274 on: December 30, 2013, 01:43:39 PM »
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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #275 on: December 30, 2013, 01:57:56 PM »
Setup a simple device where the coils are easy to change out, build a pump
The maid thats me needs to clean up  ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #276 on: December 30, 2013, 02:07:11 PM »
Lets toast some transistors blow up some capacitors,
Lets get this energy revolution going  ;D
Play safe boys and girls roflmao
seriously be careful this stuff can kill.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #276 on: December 30, 2013, 02:07:11 PM »
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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #277 on: December 30, 2013, 02:31:44 PM »
Im gonna cut the outer coils and replace them with a bifilar or maybe even a trifilar wound on ferrite rods to increase capacitance and self inductance.
pull energy out of the environment, or at least thats the goal,
I have the secondary setup bifilar as well, will be adding external coils and trying ground connections, antenna connections on that side too.
Its time to get serious, if they can do it we can too.


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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #278 on: December 30, 2013, 03:53:13 PM »
Yes we can  Dave
The gap in the ferrite and a neodyne in between the gap.... please test also....  the KML you can add a telescopic antenna as well
 :)

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #278 on: December 30, 2013, 03:53:13 PM »
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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #279 on: December 30, 2013, 04:30:23 PM »
Yea Iv been wanting to try the KML coils, novel idea

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #280 on: December 30, 2013, 09:22:42 PM »
Has anyone seen this replication from a fellow in Brazil, he has a couple of recent vids up. He has everything but the kitchen sink hanging off of it. He does however, seem to be achieving moderate success with a claim of 275 % efficiency. A ways to go yet... but this cannot be that difficult to figure out.  Apparently somewhere in the patent it mentions two ground rods placed at least ten feet apart, it must be where this fellow got the idea to use three. (multiple rods does not make much sense to me...)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mAWlAODvxc

« Last Edit: December 31, 2013, 04:36:21 AM by earthenergy »

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #280 on: December 30, 2013, 09:22:42 PM »
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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #281 on: December 31, 2013, 02:01:41 AM »
Trying to wrap my head around this, its got to be about charge/potential, the output is giving me trouble, if wires 4/5 are interwound then the output is due to interwinding capacitance?? Anyway, check out the section on Induced Electric Fields, if 5 wire is wrapped between coil 6/7 shouldn't the induced E create a diff between the open end and ground?

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #282 on: December 31, 2013, 05:23:00 AM »
I'm very busy now for my design. I will be post my result to this topic when after filed to uspto and wipo. You should be careful read Tesla's patent and relativety documents (examples Vladimir Utkin) .
Bye!

Tony you are wasting your time filing patents, you might as well show everyone what you have learned, that is if you have actually figured it out. How do you know that you have done anything unique? They never put everything in their patent to begin with, and are now figuring out no doubt, that they made a mistake in not doing so. If people cannot replicate, the patent is not enforceable.
 
They are also doing things differently now as they are connecting the ground to the bare wire of the secondary. There are also technical improvements added to their patents that no one knows the details of. There is also talk they have filed a new patent.

If Barbosa and Leal do not wind up dead before this hits the market, it will immediately be available to anyone who can wind a transformer with a closed loop secondary. They cannot continue to hide the simplicity of this device in a box.

Their plans right now are to license manufacturers. Manufacturers will wind up showing everyone how it is constructed. You cannot put a product like this on the market and keep it's design secret, this is not a bottle of coca cola. Their plans of charging 5000.00 for a one hundred dollar device will never work, never in a million years!  Nor will yours. You are not going to be able to enforce a patent on a simple device that anyone can build from scrap parts and sell to their neighbor.

This technology is a freebie for everyone once the design gets out! Wise up and share what you have learned, free energy does not belong to anyone.

P.S. Would you have figured anything out without Barbosa and Leal?




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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #283 on: December 31, 2013, 05:42:49 AM »
Yea Iv been wanting to try the KML coils, novel idea
Hi All, Hi Dave45
Thank you, I have two ideas towards point, you look at the positive direction is OK, the other point is the conclusion for two creators of the legendary Land Brasil... :D


                         Happy new year to you and yours



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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #284 on: December 31, 2013, 06:45:06 AM »
Just want to remind everyone that the device has evolved, the "Captor" now also capture electrons from the air.
So not only is the earth leaving things.  ;)
And this is a little more complicated.  ;D
In my opinion all these devices work on the same principles, if you discover how one works, will know how they all work.
And it should be a very simple thing indeed, for all the masters in the art, ancient and modern say the same.  8)

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