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Author Topic: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal  (Read 1472088 times)

Offline tonygiang

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #255 on: December 26, 2013, 04:43:48 AM »
I'm very busy now for my design. I will be post my result to this topic when after filed to uspto and wipo. You should be careful read Tesla's patent and relativety documents (examples Vladimir Utkin) .
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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #256 on: December 26, 2013, 09:16:33 AM »
I'm very busy now for my design. I will be post my result to this topic when after filed to uspto and wipo. You should be careful read Tesla's patent and relativety documents (examples Vladimir Utkin) .
Bye!
Hi All, @tonygiang
Well, thank you tips! I know they will choose to read the documentation! the only problem is: Read to understand and will do anything practical! . . You file a patent soon, we will be happy to have more people (talent) effort devoted to green energy and FE.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #257 on: December 26, 2013, 10:55:15 AM »
Tony
Filing a patent HUH?
 
An old friend used to tell me ,
Never hand a man a stick to beat you with .
 
thx
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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #257 on: December 26, 2013, 10:55:15 AM »
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Offline FatBird

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #258 on: December 27, 2013, 01:45:42 AM »
This O-U invention looks like it is the SIMPLEST EVER in the history of the world, BUT it looks like this thread is DYING OUT.
NO transistors, no IC chips, no 555 chips, no diodes, no capacitors, no SCRs, no motors, no Gravity Wheels, no moving parts, etc, etc.  How much more simple can it get?

BUT it looks like NOBODY CARES because nobody has any ideas or hunches how to wire it up.  What a shame.  Oh well.

If you use the CHROME BROWSER, it will TRANSLATE their Portugese SITE into whatever language you want.
http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=AsdB4vUOpSciPW94UA0.Q.GbvZx4?p=download+chrome+browser&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8&fr=yfp-t-900

http://energiauniversal.eco.br/

You can Download the Patent from the attached PDF file, and it starts on Page 28:

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #259 on: December 27, 2013, 02:15:41 AM »
This could change the world if they would just let it out.
It will eventually go the way of all the others.
Thanks for the link.
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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #259 on: December 27, 2013, 02:15:41 AM »
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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #260 on: December 27, 2013, 04:56:59 AM »
Well, if we try to analyze their video here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRSP7h73u-Q

a bit more, you can see, that they are using such a green wire which comes
from the big black cable where they just fitted the green cable onto, so this seems to be the ground
wire where they say they extract all the power from.

I wonder, why this green ground wire is relatively small in diameter. It seems to go to all the 3 boxes there
and every box seems to have a bigger power output.

At least they show us 6 x 1000 Watts lamp being powered by one of the devices and also the amp
readings fit with about 27 Amps at 220 Volts gives about 6 KWatts.

Also the input Watts correspondens to the claimed 22 Watts, by being 220 Volts x 0.1 Amps.

Now the questions is, how do they wind the green cable onto their transformer core as shown
already here from their patents..
Maybe the patents are just not too revealing in telling the full story ? Maybe they did not publish all
the secrets inside the patents ?
The patents seem to not show any connection from this ground wire to anyof the transformer coil wires,
but claim that the wire is only wound around the other coil wires... Hmm.
maybe then the ground is also wound at least a few windings onto the core to have at least some
kind of magnetic induction effect onto the transformer maybe via standing waves, if it is open ended.

How could that provide any potential where induction current could be drawn from otherwise ???
Very mysterious... probably does not work directly at 50 Hz, must be some kind of RF induction input from the ground,
although the transformer hum is at the the typical 50 Hz tone.
Hmm...hope we will soon hear more about it from the inventors...
If anybody wh speaks Portugeasian language could post a transcripition of the video, that would be great,
would be interesting to know what they are saying in this video.

Many thanks.

Regards. Stefan.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #261 on: December 27, 2013, 07:07:02 AM »
 Hi Stefan, Hi All
The drawing of the patent, only one wire from the ground and wrapped around the open end of the outer insulating the wire loop to which we see. Little to analyze a reasonable power principle: With the frequency of the electrical current in the loop is running 50/60 Hz corresponding to the working frequency of the primary coil is powered from the grid area, one wire wrapped around the outside of this open-ended what ineffective, the result will be quite sure!

It's just symbolic, purpose distract those who are looking into it.

Kind Regards

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #261 on: December 27, 2013, 07:07:02 AM »
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Offline Schiko

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #262 on: December 27, 2013, 08:19:01 AM »
Full transcript would be wasting time.
They do not talk about operation of the device, only data input and output power and yield of the devices.
About the green wire, 10mm flex cable, it says it is related to the load (6 KW) if load is greater wire has to follow.
The machine does not pull from the ground 6 KW, the ground just a little help (if you ask me if I believe it, I say, only seeing with my own eyes)   ::)
The third box (larger) can feed up to 200 KW load, ground wire is 240mm, and this value would be to the ground if the load was 200 kW (his words).
The rest just propaganda, we Brazilians are also very curious to know for work, but we all know when we can only see an open device ... unfortunately we have to be more patients, there is no other way.
I am pretty sure that the patent does not say anything relevant about the functioning of the "Captor" ...

Regards

ps: mas enfim vamos esperar os caras, eles tem o benefício da dúvida até prova em contrário!

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #263 on: December 27, 2013, 11:32:45 AM »
Stefan,
Guessing on any device without knowing the correct theory of operation is USELESS. I learned that hard following "free energy" last 14 years.
They are now is stalemate situation as always. Here is the real problem : it is very simple with very simple theory behind, but based on simple principle which almost everybody is taught to immediately dismiss ; that Earth magnetic field is HUGE energy coming from space and powering the rotation of our planet. The wheelwork of nature.... They can't explain it in detail because their effords to commercialize invention would be destroyed as for every inventor during last 120 years, however in such situation they are also at the power of commercial regulations controlled by elite who controls energy market..... They should not act this way, by direct opposition to the multibillion dollars bussiness...don't get me wrong - I like the idea, but direct opposition without any remedy it's like
Bolshevik Revolution -  may be a disaster without social changes...[/font][/size]

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #263 on: December 27, 2013, 11:32:45 AM »
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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #264 on: December 27, 2013, 05:34:17 PM »
@ forest

forest I'm inclined to agree with you.  ;)
The other day I was reading a Russian forum a guy demystifying Kapadze device.
He built the device making use of conventional calculations using "reactive power" to produce more energy and system feedback, no "esoteric" energy or ground, and was soon criticized by his peers and even then he showed how to make and yet some people did not believe him.  >:(
This situation favors the powerful guys in control of world energy.  :'(
While humans do not learn to share things of value, because only share what we do not have more value to us, things remain the same.  :-X  :-\

Regards

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #265 on: December 27, 2013, 06:09:15 PM »
@ forest

forest I'm inclined to agree with you.  ;)
The other day I was reading a Russian forum a guy demystifying Kapadze device.
He built the device making use of conventional calculations using "reactive power" to produce more energy and system feedback, no "esoteric" energy or ground, and was soon criticized by his peers and even then he showed how to make and yet some people did not believe him.  >:(
This situation favors the powerful guys in control of world energy.  :'(
While humans do not learn to share things of value, because only share what we do not have more value to us, things remain the same.  :-X :-\

Regards


Can you post a link to this please?

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #265 on: December 27, 2013, 06:09:15 PM »
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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #266 on: December 27, 2013, 06:53:58 PM »

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #267 on: December 27, 2013, 07:38:04 PM »
Hi Schiko,

Thanks for sharing

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #268 on: December 29, 2013, 03:32:57 AM »
I try to make the experiment with this device. But nothing happen. The current in the loop does not increase. Maybe the earth connection must have more than 100 turns.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #269 on: December 29, 2013, 04:59:06 AM »
I try to make the experiment with this device. But nothing happen. The current in the loop does not increase. Maybe the earth connection must have more than 100 turns.
Hi @ truongcongduc4

You will accomplish a lot wrapped wire loop on it! or any other idea. Just testing! . . ( You are traveling to the legend in the fantasy world created by two authors Land BRASIL! )

havuhung
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