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I think that it is possible, that under some conditions OU  results may require a certain minimum of size and strength of magnets.
Of course, if one has a self looped device, that is delivering a percentage of excess energy,  on might reasonably expect bigger magnets to give a bigger excess. 

In general, I think that what will work with large or powerful magnets, will also work with smaller magnets.  For purposes of testing and experimentation, and to save on costs I use cheap ceramic magnets.  But the strong magnets sure are fun to play with. Be aware that they can chip or even shatter if they collide. It's a real heart breaker to loose an expensive magnet this way. The risks can tend to take the fun out of playing around with them.  Best of luck to you.  Let me Know as things progress.

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I have also wondered that / if some other person had tried this mag. field arrangement before. I have never seen it before.  That is part of the reason, I thought it was worth exploring. 

No one at OU has come forward to say they "have seen it before". 

Nearly all experimenters I have observed in my examinations, appeared to me, to be way too preoccupied with

1. The conservation of energy, usually by conservation of momentum through rotation.
2. The use of stronger and stronger magnets.
3. Alignments that use only the most powerful attracting or repelling potential, ie. more or less direct north to south alignments.
     I guess that even scientists tend to get stuck on "bigger is better.
4. I don't know.

I don't understand "BTW". does this mean the best of two worlds?  Engineering mathematics is not among my skills. I am really just beginning it as a study.  Correct me if I am wrong, but as I understand it, the curves in my graphs and the areas under the curves, can give only an approximation of the forces.  The correct equation will reveal a much more accurate value for those forces ?   As to what equation best fits the purpose, I don't even know where to begin.

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Hi floor,
btw stands for "by the way".

The formulas can only approximately describe the process, but your measurements
are describing them exactly, so your measurements are more important.
What I've noticed from your graphs, is that the excess of work is almost constant at
any distance, therefore it is not really important to integrate, after all. Lets won't worry about the math.

It would be interesting to see what happens with two Neo magnets, or two magnets of different strength, or a very strong magnet and a weak solenoid.

Magnet strengths could affect the ratios,  Particularly so , if the two magnets are of greatly different strengths. 

One reason for this is that no piece of iron is completely magnetized.  Groups of atoms within a magnet, are aligned magnetically with each other in regions, (magnetic domains). The combined mag. fields of these domains, collectively, are aligned as the overall  magnetic polarity / field  of the iron or magnet.   Regions within a magnet that are not  magnetized (are not magnetic domains) will be attracted to either
the north or south poles of another magnet. If the one magnet is very much stronger than the other, this effect can even cause the two
north (or south) poles to stick together. 

I think that stronger magnets will have no effect on the ratio, if they are very nearly the same strength.  I don't know absolutely that this is so. 

A permanent magnet and an solenoid (with an iron core) would have constant attraction and so this would not work in this configuration   Two solenoids would work just as with two magnets.


 

Here are  those graphs again


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I agree,
this may be a shape related fenomena.
I personally have a full trust in your data.

You mentioned that you are planning another set of experiments.
May be you can describe the jig you are planning to use, so some people could build it concurrently?

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I am posting some drawings that are of changing perspective of rotating objects. They are my as yet incomplete notes, on interacting spiraling fields.  Please just ignore them if you wish as they are off topic, in regard to the physical mechanics of the TD test unit, except for in a convoluted / abstract way.