Storing Cookies (See : http://ec.europa.eu/ipg/basics/legal/cookies/index_en.htm ) help us to bring you our services at overunity.com . If you use this website and our services you declare yourself okay with using cookies .More Infos here:
https://overunity.com/5553/privacy-policy/
If you do not agree with storing cookies, please LEAVE this website now. From the 25th of May 2018, every existing user has to accept the GDPR agreement at first login. If a user is unwilling to accept the GDPR, he should email us and request to erase his account. Many thanks for your understanding

User Menu

Custom Search

Author Topic: Ernst says he has the "goods" on Tesla and has filed a patent  (Read 38721 times)

conradelektro

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1842
Re: Ernst says he has the "goods" on Tesla and has filed a patent
« Reply #45 on: August 11, 2013, 07:33:05 PM »
@Ramset (Chet) and Ernst:

I want to defend my opinion that Ernst is handing out BS by going through his Video 7 and making remarks aboot its contents.
(Ernst-Video 7:  www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmE61u2zUkY )

Earth Resonance What could Tesla mean by that?
This is how the NASA sees it, it is called Schumann resonance.
That really has very little to do with Tesla's work.
... if an impulse would travel through the centre of the Earth to the other side and back ..
and if we add new impulses at the right moment ...
This impulse gains energy
this is what resonance is all about
(see Tesla's article from 24/12/1909)

[Remark: the Earth resonance theory and the "magnification" of an impulse through the earth is a neat concept but never has been proven. It is pure conjecture! It would need a lot of experiments and many reproduceable measurements to make this an accepted theory. To present this as an accepted fact is BS.]

This gives us a frequency of 11.78 Hz.
using this as a spark gap frequency, with a good ground connection and at least a few 100 Watts ..
You may establish resonance.

[Remark: This is conjecture, Tesla's earth resonance is not an established fact. To pronounce this as fact is BS.]

Spark Gap?
But the working frequency of a Tesla coil may be 400 KHz
that gives us 800,000 polarity changes per sec.
Correct. But What did Tesla say in his article of May 20th 1891?
There is only 1 electricity, not two. Just as there is only 1 pressure.
And that changes this:
Into this: the spark Gap frequency
And this    already unusual voltage rise
Into this:    even higher voltage and more current

[Remark: the pressure and electricity duality is an unproven conjecture and to present this as fact is BS.]

Tesla planned to run Wardenclyffe on a 200 KW generator and to distribute 10,000 HP (= 7.46 MW). 37 times more power out than in ... (please do check his writings)
I believe Tesla would have pulled it off.

[Remark: one can believe whatever one wants, but to present a believe as fact without proof is BS.]

This concludes the power generation part of Wardenclyffe. Then there is distribution and messaging.
Distribution I will explain next.
I have not yet figured out the messaging details.

[Remark: the "power generation part" has not been proven or clearly presented in any way by Ernst. Only some wild speculations have been presented in a cryptic way, this is BS.]


I repeat my simple questions:

Is Ernst claiming OU? (More power out than he puts in?)

Is Ernst claiming energy from somewhere? (E.g. energy from the earth, from the ether or from the electromagnet field around the earth?)


I would like to know precisely what Ernst claims so that we can check the validity of his claims once his patent is out. So far we only get BS (wild conjectures, wild believes, wild assertions as to having discovered something new, no proof whatsoever, no measurements whatsoever).


Greetings from an insulted Conrad

P.S.: The seven Ernst-Videos insult the little intelligence and mind power I have left. My gut reaction is to call it BS. There is no "Angst" (fear), only "Wut" (anger) about the aloof way Ernst presents wild speculations as fact and his high handed way of presenting himself as some sort of teacher.

Pirate88179

  • elite_member
  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 8366
Re: Ernst says he has the "goods" on Tesla and has filed a patent
« Reply #46 on: August 11, 2013, 07:59:21 PM »
Conrad:

Very well stated Sir.  That was an accurate summation in my opinion, for whatever that is worth.

Bill

ramset

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8073
Re: Ernst says he has the "goods" on Tesla and has filed a patent
« Reply #47 on: August 11, 2013, 09:29:47 PM »
Conrad
your First post in this thread we were at Vid number 3
 
Quote
""Is it possible to turn BS into gold by filing a patent?""
 
 
I suppose your use of the term "BS"  in your first post  completely surprised me
we were up to vid number 3 at that time.[now you dissect #7 with a BS prefix].
 
If I have offended you by calling your cussing inappropriate so be it.
  Perhaps we come from a different culture ,I always try to behave in these forums the same as I would if I were in the room with the other fellow and his Wife or Child.[who could very well be reading]
And I always try to treat others the way that I would expect to be treated.
 
It seems This "News" has touched some nerves ,I had hoped to ask Ernst for some more info
and explanation on some of these points.
 
I personally appreciate anyone willing to open source their work ,and I would have expected Ernst to answer Civil questions on his work in a Civil way,it would have been much better than this approach!
 
thx
Chet
PS
I am intrigued By Ernst's work and greatful for his efforts like yourself and others here
we just don't Know How Tesla did what he did.....
 
We Will !!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

conradelektro

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1842
Re: Ernst says he has the "goods" on Tesla and has filed a patent
« Reply #48 on: August 11, 2013, 09:58:08 PM »
Conrad
your First post in this thread we were at Vid number 3
 
Quote
""Is it possible to turn BS into gold by filing a patent?""
 
 I suppose your use of the term "BS"  in your first post  completely surprised me
we were up to vid number 3 at that time.[now you dissect #7 with a BS prefix].
 
If I have offended you by calling your cussing inappropriate so be it.


The term BS in my first post was based on the ravings of Ernst in http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/11952-wardenclyffe-teslas-true-intention-17.html and on the videos up till then. I refuse to go through every utterance of Ernst, my remarks about Video 7 are an example which should suffice to make my point.

You did not offend me. Ernst's teaching style and his unfounded assumptions offend me.

Well, I tend to be emotional in the face of BS. Everybody has his shortcomings.

I come from a culture where it is allowed to call BS by its name. Also children and nice old ladies do that. May be in a nicer way than I do.

I now admit to a bad habit: I sit at my PC and read OU-forums. Every now an then I cry out loud "Mann, das ist doch Scheiße!". But then I find something interesting and will be rewarded for wading through tons of nonsense or BS.

Why is it, that everybody has to be well behaved while the people who make the most outrageous and egomaniac claims can offend to their hearts content. You know, it is extremely offensive to claim something extraordinary without proof. It means that the reader or counterpart in a discussion is assumed to be stupid. Well, I am only slightly stupid, so please take that into consideration when you say something outlandish to me. I can spot embellishments and boasts quite easily. One learns that already in kindergarten and our modern society hones these skills every day.

Yes, I write too much. Sorry, I will now wait till I can spot something tangible in this thread.

Greetings, Conrad

ramset

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8073
Re: Ernst says he has the "goods" on Tesla and has filed a patent
« Reply #49 on: August 11, 2013, 10:18:47 PM »
Conrad
May be its time for a group Hug......? :o
 
AnyHoo, I will reach out For Ernst and See if he can address some of the points highlighted in this thread.
thx
Chet

conradelektro

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1842
Re: Ernst says he has the "goods" on Tesla and has filed a patent
« Reply #50 on: August 11, 2013, 10:24:22 PM »
Conrad
May be its time for a group Hug......? :o
 
AnyHoo, I will reach out For Ernst and See if he can address some of the points highlighted in this thread.
thx
Chet

Hug, hug, hug, ...

Mea Culpa, Mea Maxima Culpa ...

I have knelt down and begged for forgiveness ...

Greetings, Conrad

ramset

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8073
Re: Ernst says he has the "goods" on Tesla and has filed a patent
« Reply #51 on: August 11, 2013, 10:50:18 PM »
We're Not allowed to Kneel before men here [House rules].
 
Have a good Day Conrad.
thx
Chet
 

Eniac5state

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 28
Re: Ernst says he has the "goods" on Tesla and has filed a patent
« Reply #52 on: August 13, 2013, 06:54:06 PM »
I overcame my sadness a bit. My and the mistake of others is that we can't imagine how far Tesla was ahead of his time !   <
I agree to dismiss video 7 but video 5 is valuable after 5 minutes of my thoughts. What is shown here is a regenerative oscillator. Very bold for that time but nevertheless it looks to be one. Such a spark is not possible with only 800 watts input.  ???   
But what is needed to get immortal is a bolder video. An example, it starts with a perfect title, like 'Powering a t.v. with a penlite battery'. Total b.s. offcourse but the guy got over 2 million hits with that video. Eric Dollard also made a catchy video first, what got him famous. The rest goes automatic these days. Thumbs up Ernst.

forest

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4076

Eniac5state

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 28
Re: Ernst says he has the "goods" on Tesla and has filed a patent
« Reply #54 on: August 18, 2013, 10:04:22 AM »
Chet how are you doing ?  Got light yet ?  If Tesla spend one year with six assistants to get it workin how are we supposed to do it with that schematic ?
What is that run and stop movement of that Ernst all the time ? What kind of teacher is that ?

TinselKoala

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 13958
Re: Ernst says he has the "goods" on Tesla and has filed a patent
« Reply #55 on: August 18, 2013, 02:04:33 PM »
Quote
Such a spark is not possible with only 800 watts input.

Of course it is.

ramset

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8073
Re: Ernst says he has the "goods" on Tesla and has filed a patent
« Reply #56 on: August 18, 2013, 02:28:47 PM »
Eniac5State
Sir I suppose you could imagine how much effort has gone into what Ernst is Sharing?
And I suppose You could imagine how much Energy it might take to get the Planets attention and a reasonable reponce in a system designed to work that way [the planet
and "Surrounds" being an integral part ].
 
For the Flea to steer the Elephant would take much more than strong desire........
 
Ernst hasn't gone anywhere ,He just doesn't have all those "assistants" ....takes a bit of time !
thx
Chet