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Author Topic: Ernst says he has the "goods" on Tesla and has filed a patent  (Read 38734 times)

ramset

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Ernst says he has the "goods" on Tesla and has filed a patent
« on: August 05, 2013, 02:30:23 PM »
 http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/11952-wardenclyffe-teslas-true-intention-17.html#post236394

Apparently a movie tutorial  will be forthcoming.

part one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeHnyg8GqHA
part two
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPCQFDriZs0
part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6d7QdPDAfBU&feature=youtu.be
more coming
thx
Chet
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I believe the filing is for "release protection" this will be Open source......
« Last Edit: August 05, 2013, 04:30:45 PM by ramset »

tinman

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Re: Ernst says he has the "goods" on Tesla and has filed a patent
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2013, 03:00:39 PM »
Maybe like this??.

TinselKoala

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Re: Ernst says he has the "goods" on Tesla and has filed a patent
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2013, 04:15:29 PM »
Take a look at your expert Ernst's best efforts and explanations here, with dual MOTs at 800 W 10 kV (according to him):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYpYfJe3mNA

And compare that with what I do with a single MOT at under 3 kV, 1 kW input.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJp2gaBuAAA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTLFlRhsa5U

What's the difference? Well.... just look at his Wardenclyffe videos and you'll see that his understanding of what he is doing is... different from mine.

Chet.... you always come up with some winners. This one was claiming a "patent" before he even filed his application! But at least he's got that out of the way now.


ETA: This coil of mine has 12 1/2 inches of winding on the secondary former, compared to four or five feet on Ernst's coils.

ramset

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Re: Ernst says he has the "goods" on Tesla and has filed a patent
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2013, 04:27:56 PM »
another movie update
Vid # 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6d7QdPDAfBU&feature=youtu.be
 
thx
Chet
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Tin Man ,TK, Thanks for looking
 

Farmhand

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Re: Ernst says he has the "goods" on Tesla and has filed a patent
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2013, 06:30:13 PM »
And this coil has only about 220 turns all up in it's secondary and extra coil. Using less than 500 Watts, during that video I think it topped 360 Watts. But the maximum is 650 Watts how it is configured so not quite 1 HP which disappointed me ever so briefly, but I'll get to 1 Kw next time I fire it up. With more precautions against destroying everything around it hehehe. I hope. I still have plenty of computer bits but all my old socket 939 High end gamer boards are toast, dagnamit.  :o It has destroyed about 6 computer motherboards that were stored in the white cupboard behind. They are fried.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nkJtrKCdFg

And this with less input power around 240 to 260 Watts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y1U1PSmAjQ

My experiments are not all about getting big sparks but some sparks are fun, What I actually want is to get as close as I can to a continuous wave transformer at high power and with no sparks from the terminal, all in good time.

At the moment I am quite ill with medical issues but I hope to, in the future take the power restrictions from the supply circuit and let it rip at full power and with a much faster rotary gap speed. I have plans for a four offset rotor - rotary spark gap with shorting bar design. It will take some engineering and adjustment but will kick ass as spark gap.
I'm calculating up to and over 16 000 BPS, I wonder what it will sound like.  ;D

By the way my medical issues have nothing to do with Tesla Type Apparatus.  :)

Cheers

TinselKoala

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Re: Ernst says he has the "goods" on Tesla and has filed a patent
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2013, 06:31:42 PM »
He's not really telling us anything, though, is he? In a way, reading the EF thread reminds me a little of UFOPolitics.

I wish Ernst the best of luck, I can tell he's having fun.... but really, he might like to read what the Corums have to say about Tesla coils and power transmission systems and extra magnifying coils and disruptive discharges and all the rest. He might also like to take note that Tesla moved towards low-aspect-ratio (short fat) coils, and the best modern coils are also low-aspect ratio, only tall enough to keep the main discharge from shorting directly to ground along the secondary itself. My own best coils have aspect ratios of 2 or 3 to one, while it looks like Ernst's coils have ARs of six to ten.
The low aspect ratio keeps more of the secondary wire length within the magnetic field of the primary. The flat primary or conical primary is done as a compromise between optimal coupling and high-voltage flashover from the secondary to the primary. A good secondary coil will already have many kV tension at the height of the primary's top windings, so distance away must increase over optimal magnetic coupling so that you don't get flashover, which is dangerous to equipment and life.  I think the most extreme setup would be nearly flat, like a pancake secondary coil of many turns within a pancake coil primary of one or two turns only wrapped around the outside. We need better insulation though. Oil immersion and some kind of interwinding dielectric like fish paper might work.

Farmhand

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Re: Ernst says he has the "goods" on Tesla and has filed a patent
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2013, 06:39:33 PM »
Agreed Tinsel. My extra coil can be raised or lowered to change the coupling between the secondary and extra.
The primary loop is a mere 5 mm from the bottom of the secondary and the secondary is 380 mm diameter.

What I need is a better Torus as well. Bigger and smoother.  ;)

I have ten turn tuning coils on the primary and the bottom of the secondary as well as the extra coil height adjustment for more tuning.

Tuning is somewhat important in a tuned resonant transformer. Intermittent sparks at low frequency indicate a high amplitude and highly damped wave. The "Q" factor must be quite low on his setup. mine has a "Q" over 8000 in the oscillating section of the coil. The objective is high "Q" and small damping factor. Want it to ring like a good bell not like a bell caked with mud.

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Farmhand

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Re: Ernst says he has the "goods" on Tesla and has filed a patent
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2013, 07:10:53 PM »
This is what it looks like when the 50-60 Hz comes through the primary, it's not a good situation.

This is an AC supply with series capacitor circuit with a static gap.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8Czq0YZOtA

This is a DC supply with resonant charging circuit and rotary gap at about 650 BPS.
THe smaller coil that is arcing is just connected to the ground and placed near the big powered coil.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rG_Rfqv6O0

Tinsel how are you preventing the grid powering the primary kinda directly.

Is it the blown break rate or do you have some kind of current limiting ?

It's obviously working well going by the blown gap vid I watched the other day.

Being mostly self educated in this field I have neglected to inform myself if a given bell even has a "Quality factor", but I'm sure they must.

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conradelektro

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Re: Ernst says he has the "goods" on Tesla and has filed a patent
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2013, 07:58:14 PM »
Is it possible to turn BS into gold by filing a patent? Would be the first time.

I would rather pray for a miracle. That has worked every now and then.

Greetings, Conrad

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Re: Ernst says he has the "goods" on Tesla and has filed a patent
« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2013, 08:09:30 PM »
Is it possible to create an artificial atmosphere? If using giant magnifying glass to turn water to steam and when the steam goes up it will turn into water than water will go down and produce electricity?

TinselKoala

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Re: Ernst says he has the "goods" on Tesla and has filed a patent
« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2013, 08:15:42 PM »
Is it possible to create an artificial atmosphere? If using giant magnifying glass to turn water to steam and when the steam goes up it will turn into water than water will go down and produce electricity?

Congratulations! You have invented Hydroelectric Power!

Actually I'm just kidding. Some solar power installations do just what you suggest: they use mirrors or lenses to heat up brine to very hot, then use the hot brine to boil water to steam, and then they use the steam to turn turbines which turn generators.


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TinselKoala

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Re: Ernst says he has the "goods" on Tesla and has filed a patent
« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2013, 08:28:57 PM »
@Farmhand you are absolutely right about the Q of bells, and your analogy of a mud-caked bell is a great one.

Spending some time on the secondary details, like terminations, smoothness, winding evenness, and coat after coat of insulating varnish will improve the Q of most designs. One mistake that novice coilers make is to terminate the secondary inside the tube form. As I learned, that simply provides a low resistance path inside the coil for the HV to short-out. Many coils that don't seem to be working might just be sparking inside where it can't be seen, due to the terminations through the walls or inside the tube former.

In my coil I don't really have any current limiting in the MOT-DC primary circuit, I just use a big Variac and turn up the input voltage until I see some crazy input current like 10 amps on the clampon. I've blown several fuses in the Variac but now it seems happy with 15A slowblows in there.
The unfiltered, un-de-Q-ed supply from the bridge directly to the primary tank of the coil, with the blown gap, results in a natural break frequency of 120Hz as the DC ripples through its full 3 or 4 kV range at that frequency coming out of the bridge rectifier. You can see this break frequency in my photos: a 1/15 second exposure generally captures 8 individual streamers in a spark.

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Re: Ernst says he has the "goods" on Tesla and has filed a patent
« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2013, 08:38:50 PM »
@Farmhand: I hope you feel better quickly and that the medical issues resolve soon. I know how that stuff goes, no stranger myself.

If you are going for the CW, no-display-spark kind of system, may I suggest SSTC, solid state systems? You will get the effective break rates you need from mosfets or IGBTs and the higher resonant frequencies with smaller coils and high power throughput. The "Slayer Exciter" is one such small SSTC system, auto-resonating and quite capable of broadcasting power throughout a room without the complications of spark discharges from the secondary. My old TinselKoil 2 is another SSTC of a different variety, optimized for power thruput.

A fast rotary gap at high power is a spectacular thing to see though.... I've had a couple of them come apart on me.... hehe, those were the days...wish I had videos of those experiments, but sadly I don't.

ETA: And too bad about those motherboards! I don't operate my coils inside the house any more for similar reasons.

Farmhand

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Re: Ernst says he has the "goods" on Tesla and has filed a patent
« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2013, 09:32:37 PM »
Yeah I have some 1200 volt IGBT's but can't do the board work at the moment. I have got an Armstrong oscillator for the smaller coils in a 12 volt input type setup that works well.

Here is a picture of 1/15 exposure from my coil, it's frequency is too high for CW with a spark gap for sure. Must be getting an arc per break I think.
And the second one is also 1/15 second but it's a strange really smooth discharge, must have been a fairly high BPS.

Photo bucket is playing up, maybe they want me to pay them something.  :-[

 

ramset

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Re: Ernst says he has the "goods" on Tesla and has filed a patent
« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2013, 01:03:28 PM »
Ernst Has another movie from the series
here Number 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utFPwae6vVM&feature=youtu.be
thx for looking
Chet
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Farmhand I also hope you get better Quick.