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Author Topic: Self spining magnet rotor.  (Read 13534 times)

Liberty

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Re: Self spining magnet rotor.
« Reply #15 on: August 09, 2013, 08:07:05 PM »
@Liberty: I hate to always sound so negative... but I'll wager that all the power that rotates the rotor does in fact come from the electrical energy you are supplying to the actuator speaker coil. Since you are unwilling to show evidence to the contrary... maybe I'll just have to build one myself and do some measurements I can rely on.
The reason you don't use my cam-linkage idea is because you know it won't work, and not because of lack of precision. Any competent machinist can work to precision levels far above your ability in gluing a post to a speaker cone, and the magnetic fields you are working with are far sloppier than a precise mechanical linkage would be.
Your magnetic linkage has many real advantages over a mechanical crank-conrod arrangement, and a few disadvantages, but it does not produce any extra energy above what you are supplying to the speaker coil.

"The reason you don't use my cam-linkage idea is because you know it won't work, and not because of lack of precision."

If you knew "my" idea of cam-linkage won't work, why did you suggest that I use it?  I think your motivations have been made very clear on this subject.

Liberty



synchro1

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Re: Self spining magnet rotor.
« Reply #16 on: August 09, 2013, 08:08:31 PM »
Wesley Gary's generator had a coil armature with a current reversing DPDT switch over a stack of magnets. The power of the armature is in direct proportion to the number of magnets in the stack. It's basic math to calculate the force necessary in the PM stator's to lift a power piston magnet plug inside a solenoid output coil to generate the small amount of armature current. Gotoluc has core saturation as an obstacle, Gary's generator does not share this limitation. 

TinselKoala

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Re: Self spining magnet rotor.
« Reply #17 on: August 09, 2013, 09:40:36 PM »
"The reason you don't use my cam-linkage idea is because you know it won't work, and not because of lack of precision."

If you knew "my" idea of cam-linkage won't work, why did you suggest that I use it?  I think your motivations have been made very clear on this subject.

Liberty

My motivations have always been very clear.

IF YOU MAKE A CLAIM that violates conventional understanding THEN YOU MUST SUPPORT THAT CLAIM WITH DATA.

Is that clear enough for you?

If you are unwilling to share your data, then you can keep your CLAIMS to yourself, please.

After all, I have a trained Gremlin, that lives in an old shoe under my bed. It performs all kinds of miracle work for me... but I can't show you any of it because of NDAs, you know how that goes. Don't believe me? Then.... your motivations are clear.

"If you knew "my" idea of cam-linkage won't work, why did you suggest that I use it?  "

Because I wanted to see what kind of excuse you would come up with. It's the same reason I ask MoGen claimants to remove the batteries that run their devices..... or to explain why they can't.

TinselKoala

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Re: Self spining magnet rotor.
« Reply #18 on: August 09, 2013, 09:42:12 PM »
Wesley Gary's generator had a coil armature with a current reversing DPDT switch over a stack of magnets. The power of the armature is in direct proportion to the number of magnets in the stack. It's basic math to calculate the force necessary in the PM stator's to lift a power piston magnet plug inside a solenoid output coil to generate the small amount of armature current. Gotoluc has core saturation as an obstacle, Gary's generator does not share this limitation.

So? Are you... or Wesley Gary... using this device for anything? Is anyone, anywhere?

synchro1

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Re: Self spining magnet rotor.
« Reply #19 on: August 13, 2013, 01:42:23 AM »
This is what Gary's generator looked like from the top. One end of an armature between the two poles of a horseshoe magnet, and a DPDT current reversing switch. The power the armature places on it's fulcrum is proportional to the horseshoe strength per milli watt.  Notice the gear that turns the oscillation into rotary motion.


Additional magnets attached to the horseshoe will increase the torque and speed of the fly wheel. At what point will the magnet strength reach OU?